REVANSSkywalker
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Thanks for the kind words Symcha on my build. I will take some pics of the ritj vader and post them up soon.
A theory on the ESB hero graflex pics intensive
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Those were done by a member of the RPF called DARTH SABER.
Look in the gallery here on the RPF for a bunch more blueprints by the above mentioned member.
REVANSSkywalker
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Vaders saber wouldn't need the screws because he wasn't in any scenes except for one when in invades echo base. Also I thought alot of the vader scenes in empire he didn't have his saber on his belt? That means those extra screws were not needed
lol
Sym-Cha
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No need to find another strip ... like Slothfurnace you can use silver solder to make the one you have more accurate ... it's the propmaker's way to keep within budget
Chaïm
I took the pic to mean there are no top screws :lol
The idea that there are screws comes from the ranch saber pic, but the screws in this picture don't look countersunk and are rather larger than the anomaly on the other pictures. Also, what about the other grips? No sign there. I think the top screws look cool and will possibly include them on my ESB Vader, but I don't think they are in the other pictures.
Also the clamp screw when painted black is too large and the paint will scratch off very easily, I tried it out. I think it really is a small black bolt (not so hard to find) OR damaged plating from the original screw that has corroded somewhat. Or it could just be some other random object, very hard to tell.
REVANSSkywalker
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You wouldn't see them due to the angle in your pic. Darth Sabers design shows the placement of the top screws. The clamp screw painted black still makes since. I am going to paint mine and will post a pic when I do. I will try and match the angle of your pics to see what it would look like.
BaronPapanoida
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Wasn't there a little motor in the grip that connected to a thin dowel to spin it for the effects crew or was that just the ANH version?
REVANSSkywalker
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OK one down top grip screws to go lol. I have painted my clamp screw and will post a pic to compare but to me that's it! Just awesome!!!!!!
i still can't see them.. i feel like the guy from mall rats and that damn sailboat
REVANSSkywalker
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He is showing the clamp screw. Still got to prove the top grip screws lol
REVANSSkywalker
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They are there lol
I love discussions like this - it's good to also use information that's already been hashed out as a base too.
That mark may be evidence for a top grip screw, none of our resources has shown those on set yet. In fact, the Vader saber from ESB definitely did not have them, so we have assumed for now they were a post production, or at least post ESB addition.
I've always seen a dark screw in the clamp too, glad that's being discussed
The grip history is pretty well known now. We have pictures of the grips with no screws from early filming. Then some with no grips, around the same time. (Norway) and then some from later filming with grip screws. This works out with the story that they fell off from cold, and had to be quickly re-attached. The date of the picture is important here.
Also :devil call me brash, but the only real evidence of rivets in the grips was on a replica, which was made with very poor reference. So far we have, on film, silver/black blurry dots on the grips which could be taken either way. In that R2D2 shot someone blew up a great screencap and you could see an "x" on the closest two grips. I wish I'd saved that image. The only surviving complete graflex in the archives has phillips pan-head screws, which are rusty now. Anyway, the rivets are an open minded alternative, and I enjoy the discussion on the board, but I just want to re-state what evidence we've gathered, as opposed to the fact we have little leading to the idea it could be anything.
Edit: I DID save the picture. Not sure who did it, but I see at least one phillips socket
That mark may be evidence for a top grip screw, none of our resources has shown those on set yet. In fact, the Vader saber from ESB definitely did not have them, so we have assumed for now they were a post production, or at least post ESB addition.
I've always seen a dark screw in the clamp too, glad that's being discussed
The grip history is pretty well known now. We have pictures of the grips with no screws from early filming. Then some with no grips, around the same time. (Norway) and then some from later filming with grip screws. This works out with the story that they fell off from cold, and had to be quickly re-attached. The date of the picture is important here.
Also :devil call me brash, but the only real evidence of rivets in the grips was on a replica, which was made with very poor reference. So far we have, on film, silver/black blurry dots on the grips which could be taken either way. In that R2D2 shot someone blew up a great screencap and you could see an "x" on the closest two grips. I wish I'd saved that image. The only surviving complete graflex in the archives has phillips pan-head screws, which are rusty now. Anyway, the rivets are an open minded alternative, and I enjoy the discussion on the board, but I just want to re-state what evidence we've gathered, as opposed to the fact we have little leading to the idea it could be anything.
Edit: I DID save the picture. Not sure who did it, but I see at least one phillips socket
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REVANSSkywalker
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I agree with you totally. To me it makes since that the original clamp screw was left on. Why replace a perfectly good part that is already thete. As for the grip screws at the top of the t track. To me it just makes since that they are there. On my replica you can't even tell there there. I'm going to post some pics of my clamp screw I just painted black here shortly.
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