Gamora's sword collapsible

Damndrew

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Hey everyone this has been on the workbench for well over a year and in my brain since I saw vol 1 in the theaters. Figured after seeing vol 2 it was time to buckle down and do it.
So far progress is good. Still got a few details to figure out.
But here's a video:
https://youtu.be/KizC14QIb0E
I'll try to put my reference pics and graph paper blueprints up once I remember how to put up pictures on here
 
Hey guys it took me a long time to figure out the pictures upload my apologies. I need to keep these pictures handier I see a few tweaks that should be made... My next immediate step is to figure out the handle and the collar that attaches the handle to the box (the blade section when collapsed, I've been calling it "the box" in my head) so the pink and orange sections I'm the color code picture. I'm anxious to work on the detachable side blade too (yellow) but I gotta do the orange part first.
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The graph paper stuff each small square is one quarter inch square
 
https://youtu.be/KizC14QIb0E

Here's another progress report video.
With some notes about the graph paper blue prints.

Changes to methodology: don't make detail cuts until the big assembly is done. The notches in the top of the blade didn't come out even and are going to be a pita to fix.
Also really don't do too much on c without d bring really close to done. Don't do too much on b before c is close to done. Don't do too much on a before b is close to done.
It's better to add a quarter inch to each of the four legs of c and b sections rather than add
Half an inch to two. The angles get thrown off (it may be it's just in my brain and my difficulty visualizing it now).

Changes to planning. I will try to get the graph paper plans up for the orange trapezoid section when I know the final dimensions.
I'll also try to get graph paper plans up for the removable dagger knife blade thing. The yellow section but that may also take a bit longer.
I should have put where the studs to stop the extension go as well as the channels that they go. The former I know the answer to : right above the top of they channel at the bottom of sections c and b. The latter: I don't know where the channels go yet I need to puzzle that out a bit more.
 
So the removable dagger I have some ideas about but am having issues:

It's being attached to the handle (1 inch poplar dowel rod) by half inch ceramic magnets. The details of which I'm unsure of but there appears to be two circular spots on the bottom of the knife (is it a knife or a dagger? I've been using the terms interchangeably but I have no idea if that's right), you can see them in the promotional picture those I'd think are likely candidates for magnets.

I'm having a hell of a time figuring out dimensions. If handle width is an inch I'm assuming that is the width of the detachable knife, with the exception of that bulbous bulging part between the smooth of the handle and the smooth of the blade. That bit may bulge to 1.25 or 1.5 inches. The length is trickier to decipher and I'm also not sure of the handle length and what to cut the dowel down to. And height for the blade end less than 2 inches guesstimate maybe 1.5 I'll have to puzzle that out more.

The promotional pictures are all well and good but the pic with the knife detached has major differences with the actual close up picture from the movie itself (it gets knocked to the ground during the Groot fight before they're all arrested and there is a good screen grabbable shot of it.
It's a different angle but doesn't look like they're the same knife at all our even close. My instinct is too err on the side of the screen grab rather than the promotional shot. Then there is the shot of the knife against Quill's throat the tip looks more hooked that the other pics...
Frustration!

Usually typing this out gives me a better idea of where to aim next but not this time. If anyone has suggestions I'm all ears.
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Hey everyone new update video can be found here: https://youtu.be/sA3__GWGNJw

Sorry I'm doing video updates instead of still picture ones. My phone has selfie only camera because outward camera is broke. I may snag girlfriend's phone at some point and take some pictures. If I can.
For those who don't want to watch through the video I hit a snag on the actual collapsible sword between the grooves for the nubs or studs or pegs (or whatever I was calling the things that stick out so the further pieces don't fly out when extending the sword) and the distal taper that keeps the blade and blade sections in this case thinner at the tip side then the base side.
So since I got that snag I took a break from the main sword and worked on the detachable knife or dagger or whatever.
After my first attempt hilariously failed (though the failure looks cool and I'll do something with it later) I found closer reference pics from much later in the movie those tied things together nicely.
I'm unsure how straight or curved the blade on the dagger knife is still hopefully I'll find some pic that solves it for me I may split the difference and only do a very slight curve.


So in video I promised some more reference pics I'm reposting the knife dagger ones again since I mentioned in the video the switch thingie (from the pre arrest fight scene) to detach dagger from handle as I am planning on attaching dagger to handle via magnets I'll rig something up for that eventually (yay more on my to figure out list.)
Also put up pics from around 1 hour 20 minutes 40-43 seconds that show her sheathing the whole thing before the final showdown those helped with details of the dagger knife as well as good pics of the handle which is the next step (also I think you can even see the dagger knife trigger on it or is that a detail I have to add? I'll peek at that again later)
I'll also put some pics up from the pre arrest fight (19 minutes according to the timestamps) that show some details on the handle and pommel etc.
Till next time
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Quick update... Notes to self more than anything. I can find length of sword handle by looking at the difference between knife handle and sword handle.
If I figure the handle is x inches longer than the knife handle (to be honest from the pictures above I'd guess less than an inch then the pommel) I can figured out the length of the handle.
Also note it's possible that the whole knife (or dagger) is too big. I may have scaled it up too large. I can tell from the pictures about how much shorter the knife goes compared to the collapsed sword (section A when that's finished). If I need to scale the knife shorter I can trim it down 3% or 5%or 10% etc whatever I need to. If the knife blade is scaled down x%the knife handle needs to be scaled down that same percentage. I just can't scale it larger unless I can cut an entirely new knife. So I erred on the side of caution.
Putting those two pieces of info together once I finish section A (the length part anyway) compare to the knife (or dagger) scale down knife/dagger as much as I need to, the dagger handle proportionally shortened as well. Then from the accurate dagger handle length you can discern the sword handle length.

Don't hold off on starting working on the handle though. From the likely oversized dagger you can figure out absolute maximum sword handle length cut that and start working on pommel design
 
There's a joke I see on Facebook about thinking you did something and you think about so much you forget you only thought about it instead actually doing it.
I made an update video almost a week ago and somehow assumed I put it on the rpf... But didn't.
Here it is: https://youtu.be/DUcacdB1eM4

So I'm trying to do a very dry run assembly of all the pieces. The very unfinished handle against the knife dagger the handle against the trapezoid section (that orange section in the pictures above)-though the hole to put the handle through hasn't been cut out yet, and the 2 mostly completed sections of the collapsible blade.
Turns out the knife part and the collapsible blade part are nowhere near parallel to each other which they need to be. I need to figure out a way to alter the angles so that can be fixed.
How to? Well...
Option A: alter the angle at the base of the collapsible blade where it goes into the trapezoid.
Option B: alter the trapezoid (orange) section. Possibly be it smaller; possibly change the angles (either both together into a different isocoles trapezoid or drop the isocoles part and have the angles not match) as the trapezoid is the intersection piece any alteration here changes the whole thing... p.s. I know the orange section in the pictures above isn't really trapezoidal I need to really make that more accurate before going much further.
Option C: alter the knife if such a way that it goes into the trapezoid at a different angle. I am still fairly certain that I will still need to scale down the knife x% as noted in the last post I can change angle aspects in the shaving down process.
Option D: all of the above or two of the three above in such and such combinations.
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