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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 5:36 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #251

    I'm thoroughly enjoying this show, but I agree with osric, I don't see how Paramount is letting them get away with this. Remember the old Star Wars/Battlestar Galactica lawsuit? Just change Union to Federation and the emblem on the uniforms and how is this NOT Trek?

    I think that last episode might've been pulled from an old John Byrne Fantastic Four issue in The Negative Zone. The FF find a huge ship whose occupants have been on for so many generations they don't even know they are on a ship. It ended a little different, tho. Once the FF fixed the ship and got them to a planet, the aliens were so freaked out by seeing grass and trees and such for the first time that they couldn't take it and just decided to remain on their ship.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 7:27 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #252

    This episode was really beat for beat "For the World is Hollow and I have Touched the Sky".
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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 9:37 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #253

    Laspector said: View Post
    I'm thoroughly enjoying this show, but I agree with osric, I don't see how Paramount is letting them get away with this. Remember the old Star Wars/Battlestar Galactica lawsuit? Just change Union to Federation and the emblem on the uniforms and how is this NOT Trek?
    That's why it's called a parody. Parodies fall under Fair Use, which makes them immune from copyright infringement lawsuits.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 11:28 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #254

    Bryancd said: View Post
    This episode was really beat for beat "For the World is Hollow and I have Touched the Sky".
    Yeah, but mixed with "The Return of the Archons", and pretty on-the-nose about it too. Dural is even an anagram of Landru.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 11:57 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #255

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    Yeah, but mixed with "The Return of the Archons", and pretty on-the-nose about it too. Dural is even an anagram of Landru.
    Minus an "N" of course.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 1:43 PM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #256

    One thing I was always frustrated about that "For the World is Hollow..." never addressed, and am now doubly frustrated that Orville didn't either, is:

    Why assume the ship is broken? OF COURSE it's heading toward a system. How do you know they didn't program it to slow down and achieve a nice safe orbit around a planet once it gets there? Wouldn't you?

    (Of course, in both cases it did turn out to be broken, but still, it was an assumption based on zero evidence both times.)
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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 2:00 PM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #257

    SO here's a problem I have now developed. If I like this show for being such a great call back to TNG, I may start judging it by TNG standards. Like-- what happens when you open the sky for a society that has never seen night? It would be like the rapture and they'd be losing their minds and killing themselves!

    That said, the elevator scene made me legit LOL.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 4:21 PM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #258

    I wasn't sure on the pilot, I enjoyed the 2nd, the 3rd was ok if a bit slow and talky. This one sealed it for me, I'm in now. Loved the fight with the Krill, especially the celebration afterwards. I couldn't help but think if that ep was ST TNG, it would have been mostly Picard struggling with whether they should intervene with this species or just correct the ship and let them figure it out on their own.
    I also like the whole Bortus' relationship dynamic, it was a good opener for them after their heavy previous episode.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 5:49 PM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #259

    I have been watching and so far I'm enjoying it! I know its a parody of Star Trek but I just keep getting a Firefly vibe with it. Maybe its the planet backdrops or the crew or just a combination.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 6:14 PM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #260

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    Great episode, and that cameo nearly made me fall out of my chair.
    I knew I recognized him but couldn't figure out who it was.

    I'm loving this show so far and I'm not having to pay a ransom to see it every week.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Sep 30, 2017, 11:31 PM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #261

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    Here's one thing decidedly non-Roddenberry Trek: they say "God" a lot. My God, for God's sake, OMG...

    It really stuck out in this episode because they were talking to an alien race with their on theology, and it kind of got in the way---the aliens do not know whose name they're invoking.
    Language itself is almost always a problem with sci-fi shows like this--how/why do all of these alien races speak English (or whichever Earth language it's dubbed into)? On Star Trek they sort of explained that by introducing their version of a "universal translator", then blew it by showing it to be a rather bulky hand-held device that they never carried with them and was only shown when it suited the plot point of the moment. Without such a device, the aliens not only wouldn't recognize the word "God", but they wouldn't understand anything Mercer and his landing party were saying. Of course, it's really just one of those compromises the audience has to accept or we'd have to endure countless hours of our "heroes" and the various "first contact" species' learning how to communicate with each other.

    Treadwell said: View Post
    One thing I was always frustrated about that "For the World is Hollow..." never addressed, and am now doubly frustrated that Orville didn't either, is:

    Why assume the ship is broken? OF COURSE it's heading toward a system. How do you know they didn't program it to slow down and achieve a nice safe orbit around a planet once it gets there? Wouldn't you?

    (Of course, in both cases it did turn out to be broken, but still, it was an assumption based on zero evidence both times.)
    I just accept situations like this as one of those, "It's currently on a collision course with fill-in-the-blank, but we'd better check it out just to be safe" moments.

    mattycsi said: View Post
    I wasn't sure on the pilot, I enjoyed the 2nd, the 3rd was ok if a bit slow and talky. This one sealed it for me, I'm in now. Loved the fight with the Krill, especially the celebration afterwards. I couldn't help but think if that ep was ST TNG, it would have been mostly Picard struggling with whether they should intervene with this species or just correct the ship and let them figure it out on their own...
    That's one of the things that I disliked about TNG. Sure, in the real world an in-depth discussion about the ethics, morality, and potential ramifications of their actions or inactions would probably occur, and rightfully so. That doesn't mean I want to watch entire episodes about it. Besides, Star Trek wasn't shy about breaking the non-interference rule when it suited their needs. Otherwise it would be, "Oh, right, non-interference. Oh well, set a course for..."
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    3 Weeks Ago  Oct 1, 2017, 2:06 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #262

    This show is filling the Star Trek shaped hole in my life.

    Also, while obviously influenced, it actually is very different from Trek. It just seems similar to old Trek because current Trek is so weird.

    Truthfully it's kind of going where no show has before. Is it comedy? Sci fi? Drama? Sciomeda?

    What at first seemed like schizophrenia, now is starting to look like trailblazing. The mix of comedy and real sci fi is actually starting to feel normal. And cool.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Oct 1, 2017, 3:14 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #263

    I've not watched "The Orville" yet ( not sure where or when its showing in the UK ) but I was curious to check the feedback on RT after catching STD (an unfortunate acronym that but it rather accurately describes how I feel about it at this moment ) on Netflix UK and reading all the positive feedback here.

    Whilst the critics have given STD quite strong support (86%) the audience feedback is more telling at 59% .Which seems to say it doesn't seem to be winning over alot of its target audience at this point, but I guess with that weakly writen pilot setting the series up completed perhaps it will settle down.

    Interestingly the opinions on "The Orville" are exactly the reverse....... the critics have absolutely savaged it (20%) and the professional reviews are really painful BUT the audience seem to absolutely love it (89%) with the same favorable comparissons to the old Trek being made.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Oct 1, 2017, 10:34 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #264

    CutThumb said: View Post
    I've not watched "The Orville" yet ( not sure where or when its showing in the UK ) but I was curious to check the feedback on RT after catching STD (an unfortunate acronym that but it rather accurately describes how I feel about it at this moment ) on Netflix UK and reading all the positive feedback here.

    Whilst the critics have given STD quite strong support (86%) the audience feedback is more telling at 59% .Which seems to say it doesn't seem to be winning over alot of its target audience at this point, but I guess with that weakly writen pilot setting the series up completed perhaps it will settle down.

    Interestingly the opinions on "The Orville" are exactly the reverse....... the critics have absolutely savaged it (20%) and the professional reviews are really painful BUT the audience seem to absolutely love it (89%) with the same favorable comparissons to the old Trek being made.
    I was noticing that as well. The audience score indicates that the people watching it are liking it, despite the poor reviews.

    It will be interesting to see what happens as the numbers have dropped from over 8 million to under 4 million already. Hopefully it stays steady or experiences some growth as word of mouth gets around that it's better than the critics say it is.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Oct 1, 2017, 11:06 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #265

    CutThumb said: View Post
    I've not watched "The Orville" yet ( not sure where or when its showing in the UK ) but I was curious to check the feedback on RT after catching STD (an unfortunate acronym that but it rather accurately describes how I feel about it at this moment ) on Netflix UK and reading all the positive feedback here.

    Whilst the critics have given STD quite strong support (86%) the audience feedback is more telling at 59% .Which seems to say it doesn't seem to be winning over alot of its target audience at this point, but I guess with that weakly writen pilot setting the series up completed perhaps it will settle down.

    Interestingly the opinions on "The Orville" are exactly the reverse....... the critics have absolutely savaged it (20%) and the professional reviews are really painful BUT the audience seem to absolutely love it (89%) with the same favorable comparissons to the old Trek being made.
    You never want to pay attention to the "professionals" because most of the professional reviewers are bought and paid for by the studios, either for or against. This has been proven time and time again in various industries. Trust the people, the ones who watch this stuff for enjoyment, not the people who do it for a living and have to make the studios and advertisers happy. It's hard to go wrong that way.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Oct 1, 2017, 11:09 PM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #266

    AJTaliesen said: View Post
    ...What at first seemed like schizophrenia, now is starting to look like trailblazing. The mix of comedy and real sci fi is actually starting to feel normal. And cool.
    You could be right. In most shows like this the characters all seem to have this "polished" demeanor even when they're off duty. But the crew of the Orville has a more relaxed, casual feel that I think most viewers can relate to. For example, the banter between helmsman Malloy (Scott Grimes) and navigator LaMarr (J.Lee) is something many of us might hear at work. Granted, it's a comedy and isn't supposed to be taken too seriously, but I think that works in it's favor.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Oct 2, 2017, 2:14 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #267

    Zombie_61 said: View Post
    You could be right. In most shows like this the characters all seem to have this "polished" demeanor even when they're off duty. But the crew of the Orville has a more relaxed, casual feel that I think most viewers can relate to. For example, the banter between helmsman Malloy (Scott Grimes) and navigator LaMarr (J.Lee) is something many of us might hear at work. Granted, it's a comedy and isn't supposed to be taken too seriously, but I think that works in it's favor.

    I REALLY like Lamarr's reaction to defeating the Krill ship. In lots of shows they act like nothing has happened when an event like this occurs, but I felt his response was pretty realistic and authentic, especially considering the adrenaline that would be pumping.


    I thoroughly, thoroughly, enjoyed this last episode. I felt that the comedy finally hit a Balance that satisfied me...I particularly liked when Kelly told them where they could find her friends, it was so cheesy that I just laughed out loud. I also liked the awkward elevator scene at the end...I mean who hasn't been in an awkwardly silent elevator at some point in their life??

    Im really liking the series. I hope it sticks around.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Oct 2, 2017, 10:32 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #268

    What would be really funny is if The Orville lasted longer STD.
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    3 Weeks Ago  Oct 2, 2017, 11:43 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #269

    So it would be possible to have a actual "studio scale" kit for ....



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    2 Weeks Ago  Oct 3, 2017, 5:26 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #270

    That would be nice. I figure hit a few buttons and print it out.
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    2 Weeks Ago  Oct 3, 2017, 12:42 PM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #271

    I really love that MacFarlane is using both real models and CGI for the ships. His sincerity and avowed love of Trek and SciFi is surely what has carried this show. He's absolutely right that having both is really the best way to convey them on screen. Kudos to him for doing that.
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    2 Weeks Ago  Oct 3, 2017, 8:32 PM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #272

    I am getting a jump on my studio build.

    Three of these on order:
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    2 Weeks Ago  Oct 3, 2017, 10:55 PM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #273

    Cephus said: View Post
    You never want to pay attention to the "professionals" because most of the professional reviewers are bought and paid for by the studios, either for or against. This has been proven time and time again in various industries. Trust the people, the ones who watch this stuff for enjoyment, not the people who do it for a living and have to make the studios and advertisers happy. It's hard to go wrong that way.
    I'm watching my movie's RT score plummet as it is tainted by fanboy bloggers who are somehow considered journalists. There is a huge difference between an educated well-written critique, and a fanboy rant-- and yet, they now have equal treatment.

    I blame Harry Knowles.
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    2 Weeks Ago  Oct 4, 2017, 10:13 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #274

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    I'm watching my movie's RT score plummet as it is tainted by fanboy bloggers who are somehow considered journalists. There is a huge difference between an educated well-written critique, and a fanboy rant-- and yet, they now have equal treatment.

    I blame Harry Knowles.
    Because there isn't any real difference between the two. That's the problem with so-called professional journalists, they've been tainted by the stink of paid advocacy, which your fanboy blogger hasn't, We've seen journalists turn into paid shills for the movie and game industry, to the point that nobody trusts them anymore. When one side depends on advertising dollars to get paid and the other doesn't, I'll take the ones that are not influenced by the very industry that they are reporting on, thanks. And so will most people.
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    2 Weeks Ago  Oct 4, 2017, 10:48 AM - Re: "The Orville". A Seth McFarlane Star Trek Parody on Fox #275

    Cephus said: View Post
    Because there isn't any real difference between the two. That's the problem with so-called professional journalists, they've been tainted by the stink of paid advocacy, which your fanboy blogger hasn't.
    Most people I know read reviews to get a general sense of what a movie is about — that's all. They're not letting the reviewer decide for them. And if they're familiar with a reviewer (as in, they've been reading them for years), they've likely developed a pretty good idea of that reviewers sensibility and taste and whether or not it's in sync with their own.

    Was "so-called professional" film reviewer Roger Ebert a shill? Not by a long shot. I didn't always agree with his opinions but I knew they came from a genuine place and from a guy who had an encyclopedic knowledge and love of film.

    A little cynicism is a good and necessary thing but if you're not careful, at some point it becomes tunnel vision.

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