Ryan Gosling 'K' - Blade Runner 2049!
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robo3687
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that's pretty much the route I'm going with the one I'm makingI've got Phthalo green and forest green, still deciding which to use (being painted over charcoal canvas like the original).
I'm also still trying to work out the best way to apply it. There's like 40 separate panels of canvas in this thing so I want it to be relatively even.
NoahSimpson
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What brand of paint are you using mate? Just curious because I’m making my own too.
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ONRX Drumani
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I like the liquitex idea for my Zlurpo's coating. It is possible aply It in a coat when is finished or only works put in the fabric pieces in a tank?
Hall86
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It's designed to be applied by brush so I'm guessing yes, you can paint it right on.
nexusplexus
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I've tempted to order a coat from Zlurpo, just waiting till his fur situation gets sorted out. Judging by his photos I don't plan to paint on a different color (maybe in person I'll change my mind). After seeing the film again I think I'll want to add a satin finish to the coat, in my opinion a gloss finish will be too shiny.
I was looking at the varnishes Liquitex has and since this stuff is meant for paintings and not casual clothing I'm apprehensive. Anybody know if varnish will adhere to a non-painted surface?
Another thing, according to Liquitex their Permanent Non-removable varnishes dry into a hard coating https://liquitex.com/archivalpermanentvarnish/ "Hard, archival, non-yellowing and water resistant when dry". For strictly cosplay purposes I'm guessing this isn't a big deal but for those of us looking for a regular wearable coat we would have to go with Liquitex's Removable varnish https://liquitex.com/archivalremovablevarnish/. According to them it dries into a flexible coating and is only available in matte or gloss.
Hopefully Zlurpo will send fabric samples with his coats. I'll just have to see if I can get my idea of a satin finish with the removable matte and gloss varnish before exploring other options.
*Side note*
I returned my coat last Tuesday got fully refunded from White Sheep Leather today. Even though I and wasn't satisfied with the coat and paid $50 return shipping (which is fair), I just wanted to reassure you guys out there that the customer service is legit.
robo3687
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the acrylics are chromacryl (forest green) and A2 (phthalo) (I think) and I'm mixing in a little liquitex gloss medium and some liquitex fabric medium as well.
I was actually surprised by how water resistant and hardy just the straight acrylic paint is...even if the material is wet, you have to work real hard to get any paint to come off...I've also found running a warm iron over it (with something in between) helps to seal things in too.
I'll have to look into the satin varnish that cirrusx1 did his tests with. That might be the last piece to my coating that I'm looking for.
i also need to get around to starting my build thread, just waiting on some fabric to arrive before i can start.
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NoahSimpson
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Thanks very much. Can’t wait to see the progress!
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nexusplexus
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I don't know how I missed that but thanks for posting. I'm assuming you used Non-removable satin varnish? It just stiffens the fabric and doesn't harden it? I'm just curious cause I've never used this stuff and their website says the Removable version is "Flexible, will not crack as surface expands and contracts during temperature and humidity changes".
I know pictures can lie, in your opinion does the satin finish give it a leather shine? I'll have to experiment regardless, but I want to avoid a leathery look.
Hall86
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Yeah agreed with this. I was under the impression Liquitex paint and varnish was used for quite a lot of costuming applications in film.
Agreed, you may well have to experiment with application (zlurpo is including extra offcuts of the dyed canvas for testing) as personally, the 'leather-like' look is what I'm going for and others might not want that.
tomservojones
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*Side note* I returned my coat last Tuesday got fully refunded from White Sheep Leather today. Even though I and wasn't satisfied with the coat and paid $50 return shipping (which is fair) said:
nexusplexus
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No worries, start with page 28 of this thread. My posting has all the details. You'll also find those who posted after me also give reviews of WSL's latest coat design.
https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=276775&page=28&p=4388329#post4388329
nexusplexus
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No worries, start with page 28 of this thread. My posting has all the details. You'll also find those who posted after me also give reviews of WSL's latest coat design.
https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=276775&page=28&p=4388329#post4388329
tomservojones
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Ahhhh yessss, sorry! I did see that but didn't realise it was you. I'm still on the fence about where to order from. I can tell WSL is good for the money whle not being 100% accurate and I just can't afford the other two options. I may get the WSL one as a base and modify it (sew in extra shearling/lining) but still undecided.
I have the WSl version of the coat. Can someone explain to me exactly what is inaccurate about this version as opposed to magnolias and zlurpos versions?
On that note, I actually had the collar adjusted by a local service because the collar piece on the side that stand upright kept flapping down as it was too long in comparison to the movie version.
On that note, I actually had the collar adjusted by a local service because the collar piece on the side that stand upright kept flapping down as it was too long in comparison to the movie version.
masterchief0185
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Its mostly a matter of construction and materials, magnolis and zlurpos are both crafted much nicer and made of much better and more accurate materials. I believe the fitting, patterning and color on them is more accurate as well. You get what you pay for with these coats, white sheep is much cheaper than them for a reason.
Ok, here’s my take on the laminating fabric discussion. I’ve tried many variations of acrylic mediums, I am using a product that’s meant for awnings to seal them and still be able to flex and move with the varying winds and temperatures. I’ve used it straight out of the bottle, thinned it by 30%, 50%, and even added color to it. I’m sad to say the acrylic mediums leave the canvas material I’m testing, crunchy and ruff like hardened material. It really doesn’t flex or wrinkle like what we all saw in the movie. What I have tried next was, I used acrylic paints to get a color I’m feel is close to what I think is suitable. I thinned the consistency down by 30-50%. I wanted it to absorb into the fabric, not soaking it, but not just sitting on top. I only did one coat (making sure I saturated the area). I forced dryed it for time purposes only. I then took a clear silicone and thinned it just a touch, and literally worked it in to the paint fabric the silicone results are by far the best in appearance and feel and it moves like leather. Next I plan on trying the same meathod but using a wax instead of a silicone.
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