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    Jan 19, 2018, 2:20 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1176

    I believe that off white material in the checkered grooves on the grips (3rd photo) is a build up of residue from a buffing cream like Brasso
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    Jan 19, 2018, 9:35 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1177

    Kylo1 said: View Post
    Just wondering what is best way to age the checkered part of the grips of my water gun as in the worldcon version below

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    Brasso, upvc cleaner, anything that'll leave a white residue.
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    Jan 19, 2018, 9:40 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1178

    Thain said: View Post
    Yeah I was afraid of that...I have Soulinertia's deluxe kit ordered so I'll be adding Darko's grip interior to mine. I think filling the gaps with Apoxie Sculpt might work to make it sturdy again?
    I cut down lead fishing weights and added them into the gaps and then fashioned a fairly good representation of the bulldog grip with apoxie round them in the cavity in the grip. Definitely offsets the weight in the barrel.
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    Jan 19, 2018, 7:39 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1179

    Darko said: View Post
    Thanks to sla73 I now have these fantastic grips! and a good 2 days to work on the blaster, ill be fitting the front end greeble and barrel, filling the blaster with sand for weight and prepping it for paint (lots of smoothing to do on the grip internals) I will also be adding little details like screws,leds and other fun stuff, stay tuned!.

    Attachment 762528Attachment 762529

    Also! for those asking about the grip internals and front greeble, here is the STL files. They are to scale and ready to print on your favorite printer, however the grip internals will need some trimming to get them to fit into the blaster grip as it was a pretty quick modelling job, but here you all go.

    http://www.filedropper.com/blasterupgrades
    Looking good Darko, have been out of action for a while
    so did see this post!
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    Jan 23, 2018, 1:11 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1180

    I had a request for some blue grips . . .

    Last edited by Soulinertia; Jan 23, 2018 at 3:10 PM.
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    Jan 24, 2018, 8:43 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1181

    Pencil said: View Post
    'Takagi Type M2019 WaterBlaster Muzzle (modification)' now available for those modding their squirter. Share and enjoy.

    https://www.shapeways.com/product/J7D9EH96T/takagi-type-m2019-muzzle-modification

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    I got mine today. I like it a lot. First, that the barrel tip is integrated with a step at the back, which would make fitting and filling gaps much easier.
    Second that it has sharp details, which the orange tip doesn't.
    I'm glad I waited to convert mine before this became available.
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    Jan 25, 2018, 6:05 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1182

    Darth Lars said: View Post
    I got mine today. I like it a lot. First, that the barrel tip is integrated with a step at the back, which would make fitting and filling gaps much easier.
    Second that it has sharp details, which the orange tip doesn't.
    I'm glad I waited to convert mine before this became available.
    Thanks for the feedback Darth Lars. Glad you're happy with the product. Look forward to seeing your completed mod.
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    Jan 27, 2018, 12:54 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1183

    Today's update:

    Continued cleaning up where I removed the crappy molded knob so I can replace it with a real metal one. It's really hard to sand in this area because it's just so small and awkward. It's also impossible to see how well I'm doing without some primer haha.
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    I spent what felt like forever cutting off/hollowing the main barrel and hollowing out the upper barrel section for the more accurate parts.
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    Some time and a whole lot of cocai-ahem, sanding dust, and the parts finally fit:
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    I also cut one half of the grip open for a test fit of the inner grip piece. Huge thanks to @Soulinertia for supplying the deluxe upgrade kit I'm using for this build!
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    Jan 27, 2018, 1:11 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1184

    The front end piece looks like it fits on/in perfect!

    Nice work
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    Jan 27, 2018, 7:47 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1185

    You can never ever be too accurate...

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    Jan 27, 2018, 10:47 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1186

    Mechanized2400 said: View Post
    The front end piece looks like it fits on/in perfect!

    Nice work
    It does from this angle. I tried my hardest to get them to align perfectly without having to do much work after, but alas there's a slight gap between the barrel extension and the upper barrel greebie that needs to be fixed.
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    Jan 28, 2018, 3:26 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1187

    Thain said: View Post
    Today's update:

    Continued cleaning up where I removed the crappy molded knob so I can replace it with a real metal one. It's really hard to sand in this area because it's just so small and awkward. It's also impossible to see how well I'm doing without some primer haha.
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    I spent what felt like forever cutting off/hollowing the main barrel and hollowing out the upper barrel section for the more accurate parts.
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    Some time and a whole lot of cocai-ahem, sanding dust, and the parts finally fit:
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    I also cut one half of the grip open for a test fit of the inner grip piece. Huge thanks to @Soulinertia for supplying the deluxe upgrade kit I'm using for this build!
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    So, is the inside of your barrel just coated with resin? I thought it would be solid in there. If it's just coated inside, that's what I would like to do. I'm thinking of adding some sound and light inside there.
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    Jan 28, 2018, 8:41 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1188

    Solo said: View Post
    So, is the inside of your barrel just coated with resin? I thought it would be solid in there. If it's just coated inside, that's what I would like to do. I'm thinking of adding some sound and light inside there.
    No, the whole thing is solid. I just poured it down the barrel and made sure not to fill it all the way up to the opening, so at the opening it appears hollow. That's probably what confused you.
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    Jan 31, 2018, 9:53 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1189

    More progress:

    The inner grip was thicker on one end than it was on the other, so I sanded it all down until it was all even. It's still too thin, so I'll need to build up the thickness with styrene, eventually adding the recessed detail that the other side has.
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    I've also filled the butt and upper grip area and lined the interior of the grip frame with Apoxie Sculpt.
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    Finally, I filled in the barrel area that I'd hollowed out a bit to create a flat surface for gluing the pieces onto. The empty space in the barrel piece was filled in as well.
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    Test fit of everything assembled:
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    I tried to put as much work into this project as I could over the past few weeks while I was still on winter break. Unfortunately, that break has ended and I'm back at school, meaning progress on this project will be very slow going forward. I am having an absolutely blast with this build though! I usually work on helmets, so working on a hand prop this small and manageable is a real treat!
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    Feb 1, 2018, 6:52 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1190

    Thain said: View Post
    More progress:

    The inner grip was thicker on one end than it was on the other, so I sanded it all down until it was all even. It's still too thin, so I'll need to build up the thickness with styrene, eventually adding the recessed detail that the other side has.
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    I've also filled the butt and upper grip area and lined the interior of the grip frame with Apoxie Sculpt.
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    Finally, I filled in the barrel area that I'd hollowed out a bit to create a flat surface for gluing the pieces onto. The empty space in the barrel piece was filled in as well.
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    I tried to put as much work into this project as I could over the past few weeks while I was still on winter break. Unfortunately, that break has ended and I'm back at school, meaning progress on this project will be very slow going forward. I am having an absolutely blast with this build though! I usually work on helmets, so working on a hand prop this small and manageable is a real treat!
    That looks really good. Where did you get the innergrib? Is there a file for 3d printing it?


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    Feb 1, 2018, 2:40 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1191

    Maffait said: View Post
    That looks really good. Where did you get the innergrib? Is there a file for 3d printing it?


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    It came with the deluxe upgrade kit that Soulinertia is offering.
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    Feb 11, 2018, 3:16 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1192

    Is the butt (end of grip section) too thin or does it just have too soft edges? I'm leaning towards the latter but I'm not sure.
    On my water-gun it is 11.1 - 11.5 mm.
    Edit: I think the Tomenosuke 2049 has a thicker butt plate than the original gun BTW.

    ... and has anybody modified one or two of the triggers to a rotational motion? I think that would be very difficult without splitting it though.
    Last edited by Darth Lars; Feb 11, 2018 at 5:53 AM.
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    Feb 11, 2018, 6:03 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1193

    Darth Lars said: View Post

    ... and has anybody modified one or two of the triggers to a rotational motion? I think that would be very difficult without splitting it though.
    What does this mean ?
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    Feb 11, 2018, 11:26 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1194

    gedmac66 said: View Post
    What does this mean ?
    I'm sorry if I was unclear. The water gun's triggers are one piece which slides backwards if you pull any or both of the triggers.
    On the real gun, the rear trigger is attached with a pin and the trigger rotates when pulled. I wonder if someone here has modified the rear trigger to rotate when pulled.

    I believe that would be a difficult mod, one that would practically require splitting the entire gun into left and right halves so as to get access to where the trigger piece is attached.
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    Feb 11, 2018, 8:32 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1195

    Darth Lars said: View Post
    I'm sorry if I was unclear. The water gun's triggers are one piece which slides backwards if you pull any or both of the triggers.
    On the real gun, the rear trigger is attached with a pin and the trigger rotates when pulled. I wonder if someone here has modified the rear trigger to rotate when pulled.

    I believe that would be a difficult mod, one that would practically require splitting the entire gun into left and right halves so as to get access to where the trigger piece is attached.
    the mod can be done, especially since there is the two small peg points molded above the triggers. Those pegs hold each trigger in place in the Tome. So, all you need to do is drill into the peg holes while the triggers are in place, then cut the triggers in half. Then mod them to keep them in place.

    but the major, major problem is separating the gun in half without doing some damage to the plastic.
    I was able to separate one of my water guns but the handle grip area got damaged cause of the water gun hardware.

    But I wish these water guns were also sold as unbuilt kits.
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    Feb 12, 2018, 5:01 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1196

    Hey guys, just found this - https://www.myminifactory.com/object...-forster-49985

    Looks like there might be a printable part for the on-off box withe leds..
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    Feb 16, 2018, 5:50 AM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1197

    Getoninja said: View Post
    but the major, major problem is separating the gun in half without doing some damage to the plastic.
    I was able to separate one of my water guns but the handle grip area got damaged cause of the water gun hardware.
    I found another way in: I cut off the right cylinder cover!

    I think this mod has some upsides to a full split:
    - I can rebuild the right side of the revolver frame as one whole piece of sheet styrene.
    - I can paint the right cylinder cover separately from the steel parts.
    - I noticed that the cylinder cover is a bit boxier than the original. It looks OK straight on from the side but it is not rounded enough. I can fill it from the inside and then file it down following the existing lines -- which I would not have room for if it was still attached.

    It was a bit tricky to cut the Weaver knob off cleanly and it was also easiest to cut the bolt lever in two.
    Last edited by Darth Lars; Feb 27, 2018 at 3:24 PM.
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    Feb 27, 2018, 3:15 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1198

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    Aaaand I'm done. Complete with tears in rain base.
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    Feb 27, 2018, 3:53 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1199

    Hovito loincloth said: View Post
    Aaaand I'm done. Complete with tears in rain base.
    The whole build is awesome, but holy crap that base is killer!
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    Feb 27, 2018, 4:00 PM - Re: Cheap PKD (Water Gun) #1200

    Hovito loincloth said: View Post
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    Aaaand I'm done. Complete with tears in rain base.
    When you said tears in the rain base, I pictured Roy Batty sitting cross-legged holding a dove.

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