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    Jan 16, 2017, 12:33 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #51

    I've seen people disagree round this parts about the difference between brass and copper and bronze....

    But aside from being specific about paint colors, I agree with you on which prop has what.
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    Jan 16, 2017, 3:26 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #52

    Outstanding Seth. Awesome job. Thanks.
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    Jan 16, 2017, 12:50 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #53

    I'm doing corrections/proofing today for the first official release. Speak now or... wait a few weeks until I update it....
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    Jan 16, 2017, 1:30 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #54

    Outstanding work. Thank you for this


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    Jan 16, 2017, 3:44 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #55

    Very nice book you've put together. Thanks for sharing it with us.
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    Jan 16, 2017, 4:21 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #56

    Wonder if it's possible to get pinned/stickied?
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    Jan 16, 2017, 4:44 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #57



    A couple too many "more" on page 39
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    Jan 16, 2017, 5:13 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #58

    Rewordeded
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    Jan 16, 2017, 5:13 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #59

    Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but the second sentence on page 10 has a grammatical error.
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    Jan 16, 2017, 5:20 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #60

    When all is said and done no one asked you to do this so thank you for taking your own time to collate all the information here, and thank you to all the board members whose hours of research and enthusiasm can lead to such a handy guide without having to dig through threads. This will be so helpful! Great stuff!
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    Jan 16, 2017, 5:44 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #61

    matty matt said: View Post
    Don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but the second sentence on page 10 has a grammatical error.
    Rewrote that one this morning-- thanks!
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    Jan 17, 2017, 1:01 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #62

    Fantastic book, aside from the few minor grammar and factual errors that have crept in. Otherwise, I love it. My only real suggestion is that, while this is not focused on the prequels, it might be nice to show comparison images of the prequel hero sabers so as to make clear how they were influenced by specific OT sabers. Visual aids always help!

    Also, has it been determined that certain features of the Dagobah ESB saber are indeed the same as the Ranch, like the rotated clamp card? I tend to believe that the Dagobah and Bespin sabers are the same hero, just minus the upper red button. As I recall, the Bespin stuff was filmed before the Dagobah stuff, which means that the button-less saber was probably just the Bespin hero prop as it appeared near the end of ESB's production.
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    Jan 17, 2017, 3:11 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #63

    Grammar errors-- think I got those ironed out.

    FACTUAL errors-- please point them out. I tried to be concrete only when it seemed like everyone agreed, pointed out where things are contested,, and made it very clear that things could always change.

    There's pics of the PT inspired sabers in the back, I honestly just didn't want to spend too much space on them-- I'd rather see the props that inspired them. Like i've said-- this is about building OT replicas. The PT sabers are all scratch made. I know some people adapt Graflexes to look like the skinnyflex, but that's an idealized build, and Im sticking to what's on screen.
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    Jan 17, 2017, 4:53 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #64

    I honestly don't want to see any prequel sabers in this thing. It's an OT reference guide after all.
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    Jan 17, 2017, 5:34 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #65

    the vader esb blueprint is wrong.
    the shround is probably not a mpp shroud, the bubble is not under the clamp claws, and it's not possible to get parallel clamp closure , the shroud bolt also has different design.

    Lots of missing details about the obiwan "hero lightsaber" including the death star picture with the cone, andthe 3 archive pictures black and white color? I can send you files if you wnt, already made lots of searches and combined in pictures for several sabers.
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    Jan 17, 2017, 6:33 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #66

    SethS said: View Post
    So if you're anything like me, you forget to bookmark pages, and you frequently have to go searching for information on this saber or that saber. For awhile I've been wishing there was a master thread or site that had all the information the RPF has come up with on lightsabers. Like Parts of Star Wars, but something lightly more updated than a geocites page.

    I decided to make my own wish come true. After doing the lightsaber tree I had all the photos and information at hand-- but what that chart lacked was the lore. I put all these things together and decided to make an all-inclusive, cover every OT saber ever guidebook that talks about the props, their history, their individual parts and accompany it all with the highest res bestest photos I could find.

    Before I go unleashing it to the world, I have shown it to some of the vets here for input, and now I'm hoping to sort of beta-test it with the rest of the RPF.

    See anything that needs correcting? Anything to fight over? Post it!

    I hope you all dig it:

    http://sethmsherwood.com/nerdery/SW_...de.1.14.17.pdf
    Dude! This is so well done! It would look right at home as book next to my Star Wars Costume book! Congrats man.
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    Jan 17, 2017, 6:42 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #67

    matty matt said: View Post
    I honestly don't want to see any prequel sabers in this thing. It's an OT reference guide after all.
    I agree. But at the same time, if Seth plans on making this a go-to guide for all Lightsabers past, present, and future, I wouldn't mind it if he included the prequel sabers at some point.
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    Jan 17, 2017, 7:22 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #68

    I think it would be good to have photos of the OT inspired Prequel sabers just to show the Prequel sabers were not made with the original parts. They have some similar features, but were made with very different methods.

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    Jan 17, 2017, 7:57 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #69

    What an invaluable resource! Thanks so much! It made for an excellent morning read.

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    matty matt said: View Post
    I honestly don't want to see any prequel sabers in this thing. It's an OT reference guide after all.
    Yea I couldn't care less to see them. They were cool when I was 15. Now They're just "meh" to me.
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    Jan 17, 2017, 8:03 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #70

    Prequel sabers should be a separate book IMHO.

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    Jan 17, 2017, 8:59 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #71

    SethS said: View Post
    I've seen people disagree round this parts about the difference between brass and copper and bronze....

    But aside from being specific about paint colors, I agree with you on which prop has what.
    You mention the Yuma and ISYHCANL necks as being painted copper to match the V3. I believe the consensus is that the copper paint on the V3 was added after production. The aged brass on the Yuma and ISHCANL necks came first.

    Also, you mention that the control boxes on the ISYHCANL and cave sabers are the likely the same, when I believe the cave saber has the extra gray bars beneath the top rails.

    Lastly, the hero ROTJ sabers had 13 gold traces on a BLUE pcb board, and this blue color appeared in-between each trace. Your diagram shows this as black.

    On the V2, you omit the origin of the cone knob: retainer nuts from a vintage English turntable.
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    Jan 17, 2017, 9:31 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #72

    I am still going over in detail and see some of my photos used, but I've caught a few things that need added/corrected too.

    ANH Graflex: Christianson, has contradicted himself numerous times. His most recent reddit thing he actually stated he knew for fact that the T track was Draft Excluders actually... not cabinet track.

    The V2 wasn't purposely weathered down for ROTJ, it was literally used on set as a practice saber for Mark and Dave for all of ESB production, and was used on ROTJ at the last minute. It was a total afterthought as production of ROTJ started out with a graflex saber.

    I'll keep going through it.
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    Jan 17, 2017, 10:39 AM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #73

    ggriffaw said: View Post
    I think it would be good to have photos of the OT inspired Prequel sabers just to show the Prequel sabers were not made with the original parts. They have some similar features, but were made with very different methods.

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    That was what I was driving at. Nothing extensive, just a photo or two to show the influence. It's not at all essential, but since the book mentions the PT versions, a brief visual aid would be nice.
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    Jan 17, 2017, 12:34 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #74

    parfaitelumiere said: View Post
    the vader esb blueprint is wrong.
    the shround is probably not a mpp shroud, the bubble is not under the clamp claws, and it's not possible to get parallel clamp closure , the shroud bolt also has different design.
    The blueprints are by Roy, and by his own admission they may not be 100%. If anything they represent a clear visual of how all the parts work together as a reference. The fact he often names third parties on the blueprints, like Slothfurnace, shows he's offering these up as blueprints of his builds, not prop gospel.

    If somebody is down to worrying about the knurling pattern in the shroud knob they're probably beyond this book, but if people think they need a disclaimer, I can add one.

    parfaitelumiere said: View Post
    Lots of missing details about the obiwan "hero lightsaber" including the death star picture with the cone, andthe 3 archive pictures black and white color? I can send you files if you wnt, already made lots of searches and combined in pictures for several sabers.
    I only have room for so many photos, but if details are missing, please fill me in and send pics. I'll always replace images if theres a better one. If the facts or details or wrong, let me know what they are.

    Spyhunter2k said: View Post
    You mention the Yuma and ISYHCANL necks as being painted copper to match the V3. I believe the consensus is that the copper paint on the V3 was added after production. The aged brass on the Yuma and ISHCANL necks came first.
    Agree on the V3 getting painted later-- that makes sense. But since the Yuma and ISYHCANL were scratch made they would have likely just been aluminum. Not sure if you are saying you think they are actual aged brass, or just painted that way to match the V2/V3?

    Spyhunter2k said: View Post
    Also, you mention that the control boxes on the ISYHCANL and cave sabers are the likely the same, when I believe the cave saber has the extra gray bars beneath the top rails.
    I reworded that in the current version. I just meant one was probably adapted from the other-- but yes, in the scenes they are different. The cave has the rails.

    Spyhunter2k said: View Post
    Lastly, the hero ROTJ sabers had 13 gold traces on a BLUE pcb board, and this blue color appeared in-between each trace. Your diagram shows this as black.
    I'm going by bad photos and slothfurnace's repro. Do you have pic that shows the blue? I've never seen that. Happy to change and put the actual pic in there if you have it.

    Spyhunter2k said: View Post
    On the V2, you omit the origin of the cone knob: retainer nuts from a vintage English turntable.
    I didn't know that was the origin! Hadn't seen that before. Thank you!

    scottjua said: View Post
    ANH Graflex: Christianson, has contradicted himself numerous times. His most recent reddit thing he actually stated he knew for fact that the T track was Draft Excluders actually... not cabinet track.
    I'll add that to the debate! Thanks!

    scottjua said: View Post
    The V2 wasn't purposely weathered down for ROTJ, it was literally used on set as a practice saber for Mark and Dave for all of ESB production
    That was noted, I included some pics of it too.

    scottjua said: View Post
    was used on ROTJ at the last minute. It was a total afterthought as production of ROTJ started out with a graflex saber.
    I wasn't sure if that story was confirmed, or general consensus. If we've accepted it as gospel I'll throw it in! The paint doesn't look worn down, every inch looks like it was intentionally scraped off.

    As for the prequels...

    At the risk of repeating myself-- this NOT a guide to all lightsabers. I probably should have called it something different. Lucasfilm makes a guide to lightsabers. My 11 year old has it. Here you go: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/ligh...oks_00000000&2

    There's also this guy's ebook that he'd love to sell you:
    http://guides.starwarsfactfile.co.uk...-visual-guide/

    The point of this book isn't to say HERE'S ALL THE LIGHTSABERS. It's to talk about Star Wars props, specifically, lightsabers. There's a difference. If I were to include the PT sabers, it would go something like this:

    "This is Baris Offee's lightsaber. It was designed by Doug Chaing and then fabricated by the Episode One prop team."

    The end. If I am telling prop stories, there's literally nothing else to say.

    ggriffaw said: View Post
    I think it would be good to have photos of the OT inspired Prequel sabers just to show the Prequel sabers were not made with the original parts. They have some similar features, but were made with very different methods.
    They are in there, in the back. Hidden in with everything else. Enough people are bringing it up though, so in the next version I'll give those three sabers their own page and talk a little more I GUESS!
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    Jan 17, 2017, 12:48 PM - Re: The Ultimate Guide to Lightsabers eBook #75

    here are the obiwan pictures, one for the components and other for the various views o the different sabers one with the cone in emitter and other with black inside (probably the black white archive picture saber)
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    and here is the vader esb photo I made from the various available pictures:

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    I have higher resolution but it's so heavy no way to upload it on the thread.

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