CFO GS ROTJ Conversion WIP thread.

sskunky

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Hi everyone.
Some of you may be aware we at CFO were approached to mould and cast a Darth Vader helmet that was given to a production Carpenter at the ESB/ROTJ. It came from the UK mould. The faceplate was untouched from the mould so still ANH and the dome had been modified at the time to resemble the ROTJ dome. It had been badly assembled and hung on the wall for decades. It was then retired to a cardboard box in the late 90's and rediscovered in the last year or so by his nephew.

I have just run an unaltered casting run of the helmets as found with nothing added and nothing taken away.

Now I am working on a screen accurate ROTJ version.

I have started to do some clean up but I don't want it to be too clean and will try and keep the roughness of the originals whilst having that clean ROTJ look.

I have spent some time researching the original trilogy helmets and have found the mesh, had the tusks machined by Fatherless one and will be experimenting with a very nice but expensive 1mm thick vacuum formable optically clear thermally stable acrylic.

I was initially given gracious permission to cast the mount on the ROTJ GH faceplate but having now researched it till blue in the face I've found that it's the same mount as my original 20ThC ESB tour helmet so I've cast that and it just sits higher on the top of the crown. I'm still playing with the placement but fairly happy with how it's sitting. I may try and move it back a bit more before I add the filler around the edge of the mount ring. I'm trying to find out if the mount on the ROTJ was filled in or hollow like my ESB helmet and if the tabs were sanded off smooth.

If anyone can share pics of screen used Vader helmets with me on this thread or via PM or email (medwards5@mac.com) that would be fantastic. Or if you have any info you can share. I have my suspicions that the mount was hollow and the tabs were indeed sanded away but wanted to check that first before going ahead.

Anyway onto some pics.

First up some of the helmet as it was.

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Then our cast after we moulded it.

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And now some clean up on the faceplate.

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And the dome.

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After a very light coat of satin black to highlight some areas needing a bit more attention.
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I think the neck extension was cut back on the ROTJ faceplate but if someone can confirm this before I do it, that would be a big help.
So still a way to go but I think it's getting there.
I welcome advice and constructive criticism.


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That's looking gorgeous. :D

If you offer this and the ANH and ESB versions as open runs, anyone who is looking for a good accurate Vader helmet with lineage back to the production molds, I'm pointing them in your direction. I have been already - telling them to be patient - and it's wonderful seeing the progress you're making. Thank you so much for your efforts, Mark. :)
 
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That's looking gorgeous. :D

If you offer this and the ANH and ESB versions as open runs, anyone who is looking for a good accurate Vader helmet with lineage back to the production molds, I'm pointing them in your direction. I have been already - telling them to be patient - and it's wonderful seeing the progress you're making. Thank you so much for your efforts, Mark. :)

Thanks buddy. I appreciate it. I always try and do my best. :cool
 
Truly stunning work I'm all over this and you know I'm up for one when you do a run ( money is in the bank ) ready to go I'm looking at and reading up on the ROTJ helmet but with your craftsmanship you probably know more than I ever will
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Hi guys

Sorry for the lack of updates. My daughters have been on half term break and we went away for a few days. I have been working on the mask and dome sanding, shaping and filling were necessary. I'm trying to keep the essence of the original cast but with the traits of the rotj look.
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After I fixed the mount ring on it was bugging me as it still didn't look quite right. And it struck me that there was more of the casting than usual and I believe the rotj masks were cut back a bit along the back edge of the face mask. I think doing this will fix the position problem
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Also the neck extension along the bottom is getting trimmed off as that was not present on the screen masks.

More pics to come.


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I had someone very kindly model me the mounting ring as weeks of searching and looking for the correct part came up fruitless. I can't tell you how many different flanges fittings I looked through.
I then got it printed and now moulded and cast.

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Great so far!:):thumbsup

Do you have a pic of the parts that must be installed in the helmet to attach the dome?
 
Great so far!:):thumbsup

Do you have a pic of the parts that must be installed in the helmet to attach the dome?

From what I have heard there is just a ring inside the dome that connects to the face mask mount. I have not got that far yet.


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I've been a plumber for 35 years and fitted many extractor vents on tumble dryers and cooker hoods and removed so many old 70s/80s vents and adapters this reminds me of the old ones you could get in 4, 5 and 6 inch also caravan vents came in 3 or 3.5 inch and had another plate that screwed together with a seal in between , just a thoughts it's been playing on my mind what the original could have been
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From what I have heard there is just a ring inside the dome that connects to the face mask mount. I have not got that far yet.


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Ah ok..but is the ring in the dome bigger or smaller as the one on the mask?
 
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