Bandai 1/72 PG Millennium Falcon (also the Revell Germany rebox)

Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

C'mon CultTVMan, I need this big box of goodness in my life!


Tell me about it.....I've been looking at this all weekend!



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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

So what have have people been handling the control panels in the cabins?

There is tons of molded in detail that makes it extremely hard to actually use the waterslide decals on top of them

You can shave it all off, bu then you lose out on some of the 3-d look and natural shadows

I tried painting them, but it lacks that distinctive Star Wars style panel of the white line outlines over the black and grey if you just kind of do a drybrush like job and then pick out details

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I then tried cutting out just selected parts of the decals which worked all right, but still a few areas the decals, once conformed with Micro Sol, wound up warping/curving some of those lines.

So now it is a hybrid of painted details and decals

I mean it's definitely passable at normal viewing distance.size, but if you zoom in these pics you can see what I mean

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As far as the rest of the cockpit, this is where I am at currently ( I still need to matte coat it to get rid of some of the glossiness)

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Looks a lot like my own. I also used decals in the back wall with mixed success. I painted the bulked padding around the door.

Not really done well IMHO by the deals is the meium grey vs dark grey/black panels. I painted mine this way on the sidewalls. It shows up in the seipa-toned picture below.

I did some silver Prismacolor pencils over most the raised detail and a dab of red, bkue, green, and yellow.

Turned out OK overall.
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Re: Bandai 1/72 Millennium Falcon

Looks a lot like my own. I also used decals in the back wall with mixed success. I painted the bulked padding around the door.

Not really done well IMHO by the deals is the meium grey vs dark grey/black panels. I painted mine this way on the sidewalls. It shows up in the seipa-toned picture below.

I did some silver Prismacolor pencils over most the raised detail and a dab of red, bkue, green, and yellow.

Turned out OK overall. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171120/58f8fd20b3de0264219c0d1d6e95c488.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171120/1a1e4bc25c086e5f2d0ebdec1464a699.jpg

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Cool

In hindsight, I wonder if it would have just been better sanding it down flat and using decals or just tossing the decals and stay with it painted even if I can;t get all the nice white outlines on the sections
 
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My kit made it! Thanks, Culttvman! And yes, no duties to speak of. :) I took a peak inside but didn't want to expose the parts lest the fluorescent lamp rays dull the details. :D That's the equivalent of lifting one's feet carefully when walking with brand new shoes, haha. No, I'll open it up eventually as soon as I could focus my eyes from the excitement -- they're still spinning about!
 
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Cool

In hindsight, I wonder if it would have just been better sanding it down flat and using decals or just tossing the decals and stay with it painted even if I can;t get all the nice white outlines on the sections
A pre-painted Photoetched set would be awsome with holes for lights that can shine through.

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A pre-painted Photoetched set would be awsome with holes for lights that can shine through.

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Do they sell photo etch sets that are pre painted? I’ve only seen them in the raw metal color they’re usually made in.


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https://i.imgur.com/U2029Ly.jpg
My kit made it! Thanks, Culttvman! And yes, no duties to speak of. :) I took a peak inside but didn't want to expose the parts lest the fluorescent lamp rays dull the details. :D That's the equivalent of lifting one's feet carefully when walking with brand new shoes, haha. No, I'll open it up eventually as soon as I could focus my eyes from the excitement -- they're still spinning about!
Woo hoo!

I'm still waiting

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For people that want to avoid translucency problems, I find that painting the inner walls of the model black usually eliminates any translucency issues. I did this with my 1/48 scale Bandai Light and Motion X wing. Didn't have to use any of the dark stickers the kit came with to obscure light bleed through on any of the parts.

While I am not sure how useful these really are for the absolute perfectionist, who will of course want to use color corrected photos, I've found sites like this useful for getting an idea of what makes particular shades of a color special when I can't find that perfect out of the bottle color for something.

http://www.colorhexa.com/

http://www.imagecolorpicker.com/

Black can take several coats,German grey on the inside will stop the light with even a thin couple of coats. either way this is worth doing for sure, and maybe use the stickers as an extra defence.
 
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Do they sell photo etch sets that are pre painted? I’ve only seen them in the raw metal color they’re usually made in.


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Yes. I think there was one done for the Dangonisti Studio Scale Falcon. Wish they would scale it down for the Bandai.

I've used them quite extensively on aircraft models.

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Yes. I think there was one done for the Dangonisti Studio Scale Falcon. Wish they would scale it down for the Bandai.

I've used them quite extensively on aircraft models.

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Cool. I would definitely buy a set too!


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I am at the stage of using the decals for the panels that are in color. I do have a question, though - Has anyone used the decals and found that the instructions don't show placement for about a dozen, or so, of the panel decals? I have gone through the decal placement illustrations a ton of times and can't find places for these orphans I have sitting on my work table! I am going mad trying to find the place for decal number 36 and others! HELP!!
 
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I am at the stage of using the decals for the panels that are in color. I do have a question, though - Has anyone used the decals and found that the instructions don't show placement for about a dozen, or so, of the panel decals? I have gone through the decal placement illustrations a ton of times and can't find places for these orphans I have sitting on my work table! I am going mad trying to find the place for decal number 36 and others! HELP!!

Decal number 36 goes on the cockpit cone, and it is indicated on the decal section of the instruction manual.
 
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Couldn't find the photo-etch fret and pulled out the decal sheet from underneath the pile of trees. Didn't notice it in the back of the decals bag and almost bent the grilles out of shape, whew! This thing's paper-thin, beautiful and fragile - l wonder if one can get replacements easily.


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One minor gripe I have is that the many of the decal colors seem to be dotted instead of being solid colors. Not really visible to the naked eye I guess, but noticeable when zoomed into. More noticeable in the grays than the red. Might really have to paint the various grays.


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My concern isn't so much with what comes out of the rattle can as the can/nozzle itself. The way rattle can nozzles are designed there's very little sensitivity to how the propellant ejects the paint when you press down on the nozzle. Depending on the can, once you put pressure on the nozzle, the paint starts shooting out and you're committed. There's far less control than with an airbrush where you can feather in the amount of paint with the air. I've often had sticky rattle can nozzles where I press down, the nozzle sticks, I press harder, then -- POP -- the nozzle unsticks and FOOM a huge burst of paint shoots out and floods a section before I can react to back the can away from the surface.

That just makes me cringe. Rattle-can etiquette is a bit like gun etiquette -- don't point it at anything you don't want killed. After shaking, point it at nothing or a backsplash to make sure the nozzle is clear and everything's going smoothly and mixed before you undertake to actually paint a thing. Then go in passes, starting the spray before you're pointing at the thing and stopping after you're off the other side. For fine details, use brushes or airbrushes. Rattle-cans are well suited to priming and basecoating and sealing and little else, but they are well suited to those things when used properly. The idea of pointing one at a thing you want to paint and then pressing the nozzle just makes me squirm uncomfortably.

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The black behind the grill is just the void of space between the grills and the light bar. Is that what you were asking?

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Sorry, should have been clearer bout this. I don't mean the engine grill at the rear. I was talking about the six circular grills in the top rear of the falcon. Not sure what else to call them.
 
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Im not. The plastic usually receives a light sanding to get rid of the excessive shine, weathering is applied and then seal with a matte clear coat. Also the plastic could receive a matte clear coat initially to serve as a primer or clear primer can be used. Bandai colors are spot on. I consider a futility to apply a basecoat that is close or almost exactly as the plastic original color and call it a success when the original color can be easily used.

Hmm, This way of building/painting might work for an "out of the box build" but would hardly work on a proper old school modeling job. Even though Bandai's kit are fantastic they still have a lot of flaws that needs addressing. How do you cover seem lines and such artifacts without covering putty and other filling material with paint? Also, the Falcon for an example comes with a lot of Photo etched parts that needs both primer and paint to work. There's also some signature damages that are missing on the kit that's gonna need sculpting to look good, I wouldn't wanna do that without cover it in paint. I'm not telling you to build differently, just that a kit like this is clearly not gonna end up professionally looking without a solid paint job, starting with black primer.

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Something I'm not wholly clear on. The rear grills on the falcon. Are they the color of the hull and the black is what is underneath showing through. Or are they also painted straight black.

nkg posted this Forbidden Plastic link earlier. You might find it useful:
https://www.behance.net/gallery/40908583/Reference-YT-1300-Light-Freighter

If you scroll down to the engine deck photos particularly to this one below, the grille seems to be the same hull color if you look at the edges, but weathered dark gray towards the middle to simulate soot or burn marks and with some rust color added in some spots.
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They used a material called koolshade for the studio model grilles and I believe the slats are vertical? They seem to be like open venetian blinds so the fans are more visible at a certain angle. You'll also notice the slats are crimped together in some areas. Not sure either if this was done on purpose to depict an old ship or is the result of rough handling but they do seem to correspond to the rusted areas and would be fun to replicate on the photoetch kit part. The fans are real exhaust fans on the studio model and were there to cool down the halogen lamps that light up the rear, so maybe some of those burn marks on the grilles are real scorch marks than airbrushed on?
 
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