Darth Vader ROTJ Stunt "Mother Thread"

NeoRutty · Mar 14, 2016

The tutorial part was fun, but a pain in the ass. and the finished version is a bit wider than the actual one if you go by their dimensions.

I was going to order the shapeways part myself, but missed out on free shipping (Cuz I forgot about it)... ah well. I'm in no rush.

Here's the tutorial one complete (also the first saber I ever did...)

elro2k · Mar 14, 2016

NeoRutty said:
The tutorial part was fun, but a pain in the ass. and the finished version is a bit wider than the actual one if you go by their dimensions.

I was going to order the shapeways part myself, but missed out on free shipping (Cuz I forgot about it)... ah well. I'm in no rush.

Here's the tutorial one complete (also the first saber I ever did...)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3830/14302082522_d6f5fca8d5_c.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2915/14302054452_825fccc415_c.jpg

Very well done! How did you get the activation box finished? On the tutorial it's not complete. Also, did you end up using the lamp post like the tutorial did?

NeoRutty · Mar 14, 2016

elr02k said:
Very well done! How did you get the activation box finished? On the tutorial it's not complete. Also, did you end up using the lamp post like the tutorial did?

I looked for lamp posts back when I did it, but by then, the lamps just weren't around anymore, same with the end caps.

In canada our sink pipes are only 6 inches for some reason... I had to get 12 inche pipes from the states...

and then for an endcap I bought steel disks from etsy with the right diameter. I lightly tapped around the outer rim with a hammer until the lip curled in enough, then dropped and glued the disk in place...

I ordered the D-ring from Blastech I believe... Roy at Wannawanga sells them now though...

As for the box, I eyeballed dimensions, and used the ones from the tutorial, and made a super complicated version out of styrene. It's pretty accurate in the end, but what a pain. I can't even explain the process and I overthought it and there's gotta be a better way.

I mean it was in 4 parts.

Looking at these pics I realized I have a full build thread from back in the day for this tutorial...

[video]http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=191787&highlight=vader+mom+rotj[/video]

elro2k · Mar 14, 2016

NeoRutty said:
I looked for lamp posts back when I did it, but by then, the lamps just weren't around anymore, same with the end caps.

In canada our sink pipes are only 6 inches for some reason... I had to get 12 inche pipes from the states...

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2931/14330535515_5d38ca31d5_c.jpg

and then for an endcap I bought steel disks from etsy with the right diameter. I lightly tapped around the outer rim with a hammer until the lip curled in enough, then dropped and glued the disk in place...

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5318/14307405886_d861acaff7_c.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5117/14117335528_04cc558125_c.jpg

I ordered the D-ring from Blastech I believe... Roy at Wannawanga sells them now though...

As for the box, I eyeballed dimensions, and used the ones from the tutorial, and made a super complicated version out of styrene. It's pretty accurate in the end, but what a pain. I can't even explain the process and I overthought it and there's gotta be a better way.

I mean it was in 4 parts.

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/9959849746_efbc166f1e_c.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3769/9959934343_81a9fed3d1_c.jpg

Looking at these pics I realized I have a full build thread from back in the day for this tutorial...

http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=191787&highlight=vader+mom+rotj

Thank you for the pictures and the help! I wasn't too sure about the lamps either. Now is the hilt actually 12 inches or did you cut off some pipe? The pipes at my local home improvement store have this weird divot at the end of them. Where did you get yours?

NeoRutty · Mar 14, 2016

I think by the time I had cut into the sink pipe I had a real graflex, so I just taped the stencil on and compared. If you don't have a graflex, pretty sure someone here can shoot you the dimension, end to end. I'm at work so I don't have anything around me.

I picked up the chrome sink pipe at lowes, I believe.

cayman shen · Mar 14, 2016

I remember cutting up a 75 dollar Graflex to make one of these with a Kenny kit. I was terrified. I can't imagine what it would be like to hack a real Graflex now!

NeoRutty · Mar 14, 2016

cayman shen said:
I remember cutting up a 75 dollar Graflex to make one of these with a Kenny kit. I was terrified. I can't imagine what it would be like to hack a real Graflex now!

I got a top half with the rabbit ears already removed and bent into shape in a box of Stunt Vader parts... I'm planning on using it in a future build. I'm glad the guy who sold it to me already destroyed it, because I could never do it myself.

Here's the collected parts. I'm still missing a few, so haven't done anything with it yet. It came with a replica back end, and only half the internal guts, so I picked up a replica to fit inside for the port plugs.

elro2k · Mar 14, 2016

NeoRutty said:
I think by the time I had cut into the sink pipe I had a real graflex, so I just taped the stencil on and compared. If you don't have a graflex, pretty sure someone here can shoot you the dimension, end to end. I'm at work so I don't have anything around me.

I picked up the chrome sink pipe at lowes, I believe.

Oh ok. I'm getting Romans so I should have the measurements in no time. I have a few more questions if you aren't completely tired of me yet lol. First, what did you use for the wrapping around the activation switch? I couldn't find anything on the tutorial for it. Also how did you get the graflex "pins" in the saber?

NeoRutty · Mar 14, 2016

No worries.

For the band around I bought a sheet of styrene, cut it to length and dropped it for a few seconds in boiling water so I could wrap it around the tube. I then glued it in place.

I think the pins were just tiny brass picture hanging nails I hammered into the black tube I had running through the top part. You can see the pvc inserts in one of the pics above.

elro2k · Mar 14, 2016

NeoRutty said:
No worries.

For the band around I bought a sheet of styrene, cut it to length and dropped it for a few seconds in boiling water so I could wrap it around the tube. I then glued it in place.

I think the pins were just tiny brass picture hanging nails I hammered into the black tube I had running through the top part. You can see the pvc inserts in one of the pics above.

Thank you! I think I have just enough info to get started

jhazard · Mar 14, 2016

NeoRutty - I think I referenced your build (among others) when I built my first one, a gift for my uncle. I didnt have time to tackle the control box so i put a replica MPP on it. I'll be doing another soon and will keep an eye on this thread, thanks for sharing!

elr02k: for my pins, i bought a set from the custom saber shop, also available at the graflex shop i think. The interior of mine had a pvc tube, so i just drilled a couple small holes and threaded them in.

Not perfect but was a fun build, next one will be a little better.

elro2k · Mar 15, 2016

jhazard said:
NeoRutty - I think I referenced your build (among others) when I built my first one, a gift for my uncle. I didnt have time to tackle the control box so i put a replica MPP on it. I'll be doing another soon and will keep an eye on this thread, thanks for sharing!

elr02k: for my pins, i bought a set from the custom saber shop, also available at the graflex shop i think. The interior of mine had a pvc tube, so i just drilled a couple small holes and threaded them in.

Not perfect but was a fun build, next one will be a little better.

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/03/14/94b6f48d75d0cc194b152415fa81b231.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/03/14/c7bd56ea5c2a8e03f3c5155ecbdaffe6.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/03/14/d747027adc9dc73e3eb354b348485528.jpg

Thank you for the details. I actually really like the MPP style activator switch. I think I'll try that way for the Graflex Pins. After all, those and the PVC pipe aren't too hard to get

Sym-Cha · Mar 18, 2016

Schematics for the screws . . . . make sure when printing on A4 paper that the
printing percentage fits 1:1 with a G R A F L E X ... double check before drilling
any holes by means and use of this template

Chaim

Jedi Reali · Mar 18, 2016

More fun stuff from the reference folder. Some reverse engineering of the space beneath the black band and control box.

elro2k · Mar 18, 2016

Sym-Cha said:
http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz258/Sym-Cha/ROTJKalTemp1.jpg

Schematics for the screws . . . . make sure when printing on A4 paper that the
printing percentage fits 1:1 with a G R A F L E X ... double check before drilling
any holes by means and use of this template

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz258/Sym-Cha/ROTJOriginal.jpg

Chaim

Awesome template! Is there a symmetric one out there? My low key OSD might kick in if its not even lol

thd9791 · Mar 18, 2016

Jedi Reali said:
More fun stuff from the reference folder. Some reverse engineering of the space beneath the black band and control box.

View attachment 605293 View attachment 605292

Killer template! seriously, the placement of the activation screws is key

I'm pretty sure
the bottom has two layers. The grips are on a tube which is slid over an inner one - but still stops where you have it, leaving the gap

NeoRutty · Mar 18, 2016

elr02k said:
Awesome template! Is there a symmetric one out there? My low key OSD might kick in if its not even lol

There is symmetric if you look on google, but the actual one was all over the place. They really didn't take the time

Sym-Cha · Mar 19, 2016

elr02k said:
Awesome template! Is there a symmetric one out there? My low key OSD might kick in if its not even lol

What NeoRutty said ... get over your low key OSD ... the Universe including the one of STAR WARS is un-even, yet in balance :wacko

Chaim

cayman shen · Mar 19, 2016

elr02k said:
Awesome template! Is there a symmetric one out there? My low key OSD might kick in if its not even lol

Here you go: http://www.elvistrooper.com/dvrotj/temp.htm

elro2k · Mar 19, 2016

cayman shen said:
Here you go: http://www.elvistrooper.com/dvrotj/temp.htm

Sym-Cha said:
What NeoRutty said ... get over your low key OSD ... the Universe including the one of STAR WARS is un-even, yet in balance :wacko

Chaim

NeoRutty said:
There is symmetric if you look on google, but the actual one was all over the place. They really didn't take the time

Thank you all. I'll definitely think about making the more accurate one. I'll get over the asymmetrical nature of it lol

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