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    Nov 25, 2015, 10:42 AM - DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #1

    Photobucket out and now using imgur. http://imgur.com/

    This information was mainly intended for my use/reference to build the DeAgostini Millennium Falcon.

    Since we closed our personal website, and the fact that I know that there are others that would like this information, I am providing that information here.

    Please know that it is not intended to be the final word on what is right or wrong.

    I personally thank all those who share information not only in building but those who create aftermarket parts, links with information and more.

    Where to buy the model:
    http://www.model-space.com/us/star-w...lectibles.html

    Official Forum:
    http://forum.buildmillenniumfalcon.com/
    Official YouTube Build Diary:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...U09WDhU9UuSess

    Instructions:
    http://www.scaleautofactory.com/buil...nstruction.xml

    Engine Bay Cover:
    You may want to buy replacement metal screws if you do not wish to use the plastic DeAgostini screws provided in issue 95.
    What to buy... M3 x 8mm Flat Head Socket Screws Countersunk

    Sidewall Modification:
    The following information is for the modification to our falcon sidewalls. This is to provide more depth to the falcon sidewalls.
    M2-.4 x 4 mm Flat Head Screw


    Links of interest:

    Paragrafix Photo Etch... http://www.paragrafix.biz/default.asp
    308 Bits (TonyRR)... http://www.shapeways.com/shops/308bi...lcon+DeAgo&s=0
    Envisaged 3D parts... http://www.shapeways.com/shops/Envisaged_Image
    Space in Scale... http://www.shapeways.com/shops/spaceinscale
    LrdSatyr8... https://www.shapeways.com/shops/satyrsmodels
    dragnse7en... http://www.shapeways.com/shops/3dynamics
    Gus76... http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=259948
    Gus76... http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=268077
    Gus76... http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=270315
    Tengel... http://www.shapeways.com/shops/scale...ium+Falcon&s=0
    Redwolf2008... http://www.shapeways.com/shops/techn...ium+falcon&s=0
    Doublefire models... https://www.shapeways.com/shops/doublefire-models
    Sonic_Sun... http://www.shapeways.com/shops/sonic_sun
    Ktaylor... https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=275787
    Ktaylor... https://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=275807

    Falcon 3D Parts: http://www.falcon3dparts.com/

    DOA Paint: http://www.starwars-doa.co.uk/

    Parts Missing on the De Agostini Millennium Falcon.
    The following photos provide the name of the model kit that the parts are located along with the part number so it is easier to locate the part(s).
    Please note that I have not colored, marked or identified all missing parts in the following images. Some parts can be scratch built. Some kits that the parts are found can be expensive.











    PAINT:
    As I understand it, the following Floquil paint colors are what was thought to have been used on the original prop. The paints listed with the floquil paints are what is said to be a color match.

    Floquil "Grime" is said to be the main color of the ship. Some have suggested that it was a 50/50 mix of Floquil Grime F110086 and Floquil Reefer White F110011.

    Concrete
    Floquil Enamel F110082 Concrete
    Polly Scale Acrylic F414317 Concrete
    Model Master Acrylic 4876 Concrete (Extremely close match)
    Model Master Enamel 1726 Light Sea Grey (to dark when compared)

    Reefer Yellow
    Floquil Enamel F110031 Reefer Yellow
    Polly Scale Acrylic F414122 Reefer Yellow
    Model Master Acrylic 4879 Reefer Yellow (extremely close match)
    Model Master Enamel 28104 Chrysler Yellow (Not Verified)

    Reefer Grey
    Floquil Enamel F110012 Reefer Grey
    Polly Scale Acrylic F414116 Reefer Gray

    Caboose Red
    Floquil Enamel F110020 Caboose Red
    Poly Scale Acrylic F414128 Caboose Red
    Model Master Acrylic 4880 Caboose Red (extremely close match)
    Model Master Enamel 1705 Insignia Red (Not Verified)

    Grime
    Floquil Enamel F110086 Grime (old stock is darker than the new stock!!!)
    Polly Scale F414417 Acrylic Grime
    Model Master Enamel 1733 Camouflage Grey (not Verified against older stock)
    Scalecoat Enamel S116 R.R. Grime#1 (Not Verified)

    Rust
    Floquil Enamel F110073 Rust
    Polly Scale Acrylic F414323 Rust
    Model Master Enamel 1785 Rust (Not a match)

    Primer
    Floquil Enamel F110009 Primer
    Model Master Enamel 1730 Flat Gull Grey (My observation, a shade to dark)

    I acquired the Floquil Painting Miniatures book that also included the color chart.
    Here is a hi-res scan for those interested...



    FLOQUIL Enamel Paints that are in our collection:
    110084 Foundation
    110023 Flesh Tone Base
    110030 Reefer Orange
    110168 UP Light Orange
    110250 CN Orange #11
    RR81 Earth
    110019 Dirt
    110008 Sand
    110083 Mud
    110006 Dust
    110073 Rust
    110108 Gun Metal
    110103 Bright Gold
    110104 Brass
    110105 Copper
    110101 Bright Silver
    110144 Platinum Mist
    110010 Engine Black
    RR17 Weathered Black
    110119 Graphite
    110280 WISC CNTRL Gold (GLS)
    110031 Reefer Yellow
    110033 Railbox Yellow
    110254 CN Yellow #12
    110178 ATSF Yellow
    110356 CSX Yellow (GLS)
    110310 TTX Yellow
    110166 Up Armor Yellow
    110133 SP Armor Yellow
    110358 CSX New Image Gold
    110011 Reefer White
    110085 Antique White
    110034 Brunswick Grean
    110320 M.K.T. Green (GLS)
    110035 Burl No Green
    110262 CNW Green (GLS)
    110256 CN Green # 12
    110041 Light Green
    110183 Reading Green
    110048 Coach Green
    110174 Southern Green
    110044 Depot Olive Green
    110179 ATSF Mineral Brown
    110087 Depot Buff
    110177 ATSF Blue
    110056 GN Big Sky Blue
    110051 Light Blue
    110352 CSX Blue
    110058 Conrail Blue
    110050 Dark Blue
    110357 CSX New Image Blue
    110009 Primer
    110185 Guilford Grey
    110150 D&H Grey
    110130 SP Lark Light Grey
    110191 SP Lark Dark Grey
    110012 Reefer Grey
    110016 Aged Concrete
    110082 Concrete
    110086 Grime (R86)
    110350 CSX Grey
    110167 Up Arbor Mist Grey
    110252 CN Grey #17
    110088 Caboose
    110020 Caboose Red
    110135 Daylight Red
    110282 WISC CNTRL Maroon (GLS)
    110136 SP Scarlet
    110601 Zink Chrome Primer
    R78 Boxcar Red
    110176 ATSF Red
    R26 Tuscan
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    Nov 25, 2015, 11:44 AM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #2

    Photo etch from Paragrafix...



    A look at some of the aftermarket parts that we have as of 01/26/2017.



    More are on the way
    Note: we did not buy this all at once. We have been collecting them over the last two years.
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    Nov 25, 2015, 11:55 AM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #3

    Looking good. Can't wait to see how you light it up. Also, thanks for sharing the paint charts and 32" reference pics.
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    Dec 27, 2015, 11:38 AM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #4

    Some progress has been made on the lower hull assembly.

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    Jan 1, 2016, 11:15 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #5

    Nice job so far!

    Micromark has some Valejo paints made for them called Microlux that are matched to Polly Scale Railroad colors. They have a color matched to PollyScale Rust. I haven't seen it in person but it might be a match. I know that Testors Model Master Acryl Rust is too red and not a match at all to PollyScale Rust which is more of an earth tone.

    http://www.micromark.com/microlux-ac...ces,11280.html
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    Jan 8, 2016, 1:49 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #6

    This is great, I just scored kits 1 - 6 on eBay at a discounted price and have kit 7 coming soon. I will be watching because I also want those Paragrafix cockpit parts. Looking forward to more.
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    Jan 8, 2016, 1:54 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #7

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    Photo etch from Paragrafix started...
    Do you have to solder the Paragrafix cockpit parts, or is there another way to assemble? Just wondering because I don't have a ton of experience at soldering outside simple LEDs and switches.
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    Jan 8, 2016, 3:50 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #8

    There is no need to solder superglue (cyanoacrylate) does the job fine, that's how I assembled mine and it's solid.
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    Jan 8, 2016, 7:43 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #9

    Super glue works. I am just crazy so I soldered mine.
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    Jan 8, 2016, 7:49 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #10

    dtssyst said: View Post
    Super glue works. I am just crazy so I soldered mine.
    Excellent, thank you.
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    Jan 10, 2016, 7:35 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #11

    UPDATE 01/31/17
    RAMP will be redone!



    Made some progress on the ramp.
    Tamiya grey surface primer then Floquil "Grime".
    Ramp (where one would walk) was primed black then I used Model Master Acrylic paint color "Grimy Black Flat".
    Tamiya weathering kits and 502 MIG weathering oils were also used.
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    Jan 23, 2016, 10:48 AM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #12

    dtssyst, have you compared theModel Master Acrylic 4880 Caboose Red against the Floquil Caboose red yet?
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    Jan 31, 2016, 12:52 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #13

    crowe t said: View Post
    dtssyst, have you compared theModel Master Acrylic 4880 Caboose Red against the Floquil Caboose red yet?
    I did in a hobby shop. It looks extremely close.
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    Jan 31, 2016, 1:06 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #14

    Don't run to the nearest store...
    Trains & Lanes Hobbies in Easton PA has a lot of Floquil and Polly Scale paints in stock. The price is 5.99 a bottle plus tax.
    They only have Floquil Primer in stock. All other colors 'used' for the falcon are sold out. I looked really hard for them.
    However, They do have Reefer Yellow, Concrete, Reefer Grey and Caboose Red in Polly Scale.
    Again, they also have a lot of other colors available in both Floquil and Polly Scale.

    My score as of 1/28/16
    Not shown: they all mixed up perfectly using my paint shaker.




    - - - Updated - - -

    My current Floquil paint set.
    Waiting for two bottles of Engine black to arrive from online purchase.

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    Jan 31, 2016, 1:12 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #15

    Not a huge update/progress report but a step in the right direction.
    These are untouched and unpainted parts. They will be primed as soon as the weather gets warmer (a few months away)

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    Jan 31, 2016, 1:55 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #16

    Those on the east coast USA know what happened only a week ago. For those who don't know, we received 29" of snow in 24 hours. We started with Zero inches of snow on the ground!
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    Jan 31, 2016, 2:50 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #17

    Man, I feel ya! My neck is still sore from falling/whacking my head on the driveway while snowblowing Monday!

    https://www.facebook.com/roboterkamp...4213155&type=3
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    Feb 13, 2016, 9:16 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #18

    I know it has been discussed to death but...
    I recently noticed that the newer Floquil grime bottles are, in fact, a lot lighter in color than the original released grime. This was noticed when I received two “old stock” bottles of grime and then compared them to the grime I already have. This may be why it was thought that concrete was used and not grime on the original model.

    The "new stock" of grime that I have in my collection is from three different sources. So this would lead me to believe that all "new stock" of grime is the same as what I have. Obtaining the older stock may be a great challenge if not impossible. I am unsure of what I will be doing at this time.



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    Feb 14, 2016, 1:30 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #19

    2 studio scale X-WING commission builds are now in progress.
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    Mar 16, 2016, 10:26 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #20

    Floquil color samples added to first post.
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    Sep 12, 2016, 7:58 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #21

    X-Wing commission builds are finished and delivered. I am tinkering on my SS X-WING kit as the falcon build is on standby. I want to wait until everything has arrived (issue 100) before I continue this awesome build.

    As some of you know, my wife Kristine is fighting cancer again. There is no cure (yet) but it is treatable. She is fighting it with everything we can throw at it. She is doing GREAT and we thank everyone for all of the thoughts and prayers that have been sent her way. If you do not hear from me please do not think I am ignoring you. Kris is my utmost priority and always will be.

    Please continue with all the great model builds as I lurk, watch and enjoy seeing all the great builds you are all doing.

    Here is a photo of Kristine and I (on her very first true vacation) at WOODY'S BBQ on Chincoteague Island August 2016.
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    Sep 13, 2016, 3:57 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #22

    dtssyst said: View Post
    X-Wing commission builds are finished and delivered. I am tinkering on my SS X-WING kit as the falcon build is on standby. I want to wait until everything has arrived (issue 100) before I continue this awesome build.

    As some of you know, my wife Kristine is fighting cancer again. There is no cure (yet) but it is treatable. She is fighting it with everything we can throw at it. She is doing GREAT and we thank everyone for all of the thoughts and prayers that have been sent her way. If you do not hear from me please do not think I am ignoring you. Kris is my utmost priority and always will be.

    Please continue with all the great model builds as I lurk, watch and enjoy seeing all the great builds you are all doing.

    Here is a photo of Kristine and I (on her very first true vacation) at WOODY'S BBQ on Chincoteague Island August 2016.
    take care and be there for each other,
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    Sep 13, 2016, 10:31 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #23

    I will often pray for members along with many others and mention it, etc. but I thought I would try typing it out.

    Bare with me, I have never done this on a forum:

    Dear Lord, please look after Kristine and see her though this difficult time. She must be an amazing woman with great taste to be with such a Star Wars fan. She must also be incredibly tolerant to put up with all that that means. You know how we drive our spouses crazy with our hobby. Please ease her pain and let her feel your presence in this difficult time. When her time to come home arrives it needs to be as a very old women asleep in her bed. Thank you Father.

    Amen
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    Sep 27, 2016, 12:14 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #24

    Before talking about your project, id like to say im sorry for what's happening with your wife. I wish her a speedy recovery.

    You mentioned trains and lanes in easton a few months ago. That has to be one of the greatest shops on the east coast. I was there in dec and it has changed quite a bit in the last 25 years, but its still awesome. Im new to modeling so bare with me if i ask a dumb question. The falcon you're building is a kit? What will the finished dimensions be? Ive been looking to build one but have no ide where to start. Thanks
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    Sep 27, 2016, 6:45 PM - Re: DeAgostini Millennium Falcon by dtssyst #25

    Customrelic said: View Post
    Before talking about your project, id like to say im sorry for what's happening with your wife. I wish her a speedy recovery.

    Thank you.

    You mentioned trains and lanes in easton a few months ago. That has to be one of the greatest shops on the east coast. I was there in dec and it has changed quite a bit in the last 25 years, but its still awesome. Im new to modeling so bare with me if i ask a dumb question. The falcon you're building is a kit? What will the finished dimensions be? Ive been looking to build one but have no ide where to start. Thanks

    Great store it is. It has everything!


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