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    Nov 2, 2015, 9:43 AM - Star Trek: Discovery (2017) #1

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    Nov 2, 2015, 9:58 AM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #2

    There goes the neighborhood
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    Nov 2, 2015, 10:29 AM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #3

    Press release a bit unclear, but it looks like - if I am reading correctly -only the premiere will be shown on "regular" TV, with the rest of the episodes available only via CBS' paid streaming service (at least in the US). If so, double yawn. Anyone else reading it the same way?

    http://www.startrek.com/article/new-...s-january-2017
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    Nov 2, 2015, 10:55 AM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #4

    Yep, sounds like Trek is "Launching another new network"
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    Nov 2, 2015, 11:08 AM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #5

    Yeah thats crap, why does every network need their own damn streaming service. I dont see this lasting long unless they eventually air it on network television or get it out there free somehow.
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    Nov 2, 2015, 11:18 AM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #6

    Well I cant's say if it's good or bad I assume they looked at Enterprise as a failure and do not wish to repeat that.
    So a new way of sustaining revenue from viewership must have been factored in.
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    Nov 2, 2015, 11:43 AM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #7

    CessnaDriver said: View Post
    Well I cant's say if it's good or bad I assume they looked at Enterprise as a failure and do not wish to repeat that.
    So a new way of sustaining revenue from viewership must have been factored in.
    Well, I think the problem for many will be that they are limiting it to “yet another streaming service few want or need.” Other than a backlog of older CBS shows, what does this CBS service offer (other than Trek) to people who are going to watch TV via a streaming service aren’t already getting from, say, Hulu? I don’t see a new Trek series being some sort of tipping point that will drive enough subscribers to this service to really put it on the map when there are already better, more varied sources of streaming TV already out there.

    And that’s the second point- you are correct, they are likely cognizant of the failure of Enterprise. But it doesn’t seem they learned anything from it. Let’s face it - Trek is “niche”, even much moreso today than it was in the 1970s, 80s or even 90s. If Enterprise couldn’t generate the audience/ad revenue to justify keeping it on the air when it was free (meaning some non-Trek types might stumble across it, give it a chance), why do they think there is such a fan base out there now who will put their money where their mouth is to pay $5.99 a month for a service that - again, other than Trek - seems to be duplicating a service they already pay for and which offers a lot more variety than just “CBS shows”?

    I have a feeling this will be like Enterprise in another way - if not enough people pony up to subscribe to the service, CBS will just say “see? There’s no audience for Trek on TV anymore.” So it seems to be a bit of setting the show up for failure.

    Not a huge deal for me - I never really followed Trek TV after TNG. But I do feel for the people who did and who want to support new Trek on TV. I just wish CBS wasn’t offering it only with strings attached.

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    Nov 2, 2015, 11:55 AM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #8

    The problem with Enterprise is the same problem they had with Voyager. no one took a RISK with Voyager. it was as if the ship was still in the alpha quadrant, just with new alien races.

    If i was in charge of Voyager, I would have had the ship become a true generational ship. each season would skip 10 years, with gained crew members and lost old crew members...and the ship would radically look less and less like a starfleet vessel as the time went by and they gained new technology.

    With Enterprise, the show would have been pure fan service, setting things up seen in tt he original series (tribbles, more andorians, more stories on vulcan).
    Instead, they went with that stupid temporal cold war storyline.... and by the time time the series ended, they wheren't sure what they wanted it to be. They interupted Archers big speech to conclude a TNG episode done 20 years earlier for petes sake! Trips death was just kind of a side note! very disjointed series...all because tv doesn't want to take chances anymore.

    The problem with the movies.... they are too much like star wars.. which is where JJ Abrams REALLY wanted to be. the last movie was a disjointed mess...and didn't need to be a retelling of star trek 2. if you're going to reboot the continuity..go in new damn directions!

    sigh. I don't trust paramount to do anything right after they killed the turtles movie franchise ;o).
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    Nov 2, 2015, 12:26 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #9

    Well, I for one am THRILLED for this. It's Trek, it's new, it's TV and not an Abrams movie, and hell, that's WONDERFUL!!




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    Nov 2, 2015, 12:39 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #10

    PotionMistress said: View Post
    Well, I for one am THRILLED for this. It's Trek, it's new, it's TV and not an Abrams movie, and hell, that's WONDERFUL!!




    Yeah, agreed. Fresh start on TV where it belongs and to the studio...


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    Nov 2, 2015, 12:45 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #11

    Ron Moore or nothing.
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    Nov 2, 2015, 1:17 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #12

    Well, they're streaming service exists, but it's basically just back catalog stuff IIRC. Adding this to it seems purely a method to boost their subscriptions. There's no point in dropping cable/satellite and 'cutting the cord' if you gotta pay $10-15 to 10 different companies to see what you want. Netflix, Hulu, HBO, Showtime, CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, etc...it adds up quick.
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    Nov 2, 2015, 1:25 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #13

    sounds like a good idea, a new series. now get some better writers that dont turn it into friends in space.

    hmmm paid streaming service from CBS. cant wait to see it two years after it aired in the USA or just have to watch it illegaly.
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    Nov 2, 2015, 1:29 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #14

    will they be part of the JarJartrek continuity?
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    Nov 2, 2015, 1:39 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #15

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    will they be part of the JarJartrek continuity?
    probably. people who did the new movies are behind this thing. And I thought ron moore and brannon time travel braga where bad.

    I was kind of hoping now that JJ is behind star wars, we'd go back to real star trek and continuity. bring in Q to fix the whole mess. IDW kind of did that already.
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    Nov 2, 2015, 1:41 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #16

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    probably. people who did the new movies are behind this thing. And I thought ron moore and brannon time travel braga where bad.

    I was kind of hoping now that JJ is behind star wars, we'd go back to real star trek and continuity. bring in Q to fix the whole mess. IDW kind of did that already.
    It would be really nice to leave that continuity in the movies. In a way, that would help the entire franchise. To me, none of the movies ever really worked. It's always been a weekly tv show
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    Nov 2, 2015, 2:06 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #17

    NeilT said: View Post
    probably. people who did the new movies are behind this thing. And I thought ron moore and brannon time travel braga where bad.

    I was kind of hoping now that JJ is behind star wars, we'd go back to real star trek and continuity. bring in Q to fix the whole mess. IDW kind of did that already.
    Ahh,I did not know who Kurtzman was.
    I'm just going to assume Kurtzman is going to make more JJ Trek for TV.
    Given that starting point I sadly cannot be optimistic unless I get more info to the contrary.
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    Nov 2, 2015, 2:44 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #18

    Incidentally, Robert orci produce the transformers: Prime cartoon and it was awesome.

    Even though I kinda hate the guy

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    Nov 2, 2015, 3:47 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #19

    PotionMistress said: View Post
    Well, I for one am THRILLED for this. It's Trek, it's new, it's TV and not an Abrams movie
    ...But it's Abrams' producer.

    mkstewartesq said: View Post
    “yet another streaming service few want or need
    this

    cboath said: View Post
    There's no point in dropping cable/satellite and 'cutting the cord' if you gotta pay $10-15 to 10 different companies to see what you want. Netflix, Hulu, HBO, Showtime, CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, etc...it adds up quick.
    This!
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    Nov 2, 2015, 4:47 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #20

    Trek needs to be done in a GoT format.
    With multiple story arches. Happening on different ships and planets
    And get back to TREK
    Not the JJ Wars we had in the movies.
    When trek is at its finest is when it is cerebral. It's about exploring the human condition and for god sake. It's OPTIMISTIC!

    Archers speech in Enterprise "Terra Prime" summed it up

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oKDQtlgct6g



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    Nov 2, 2015, 5:12 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #21

    I've said it many times since Enterprise premiered -- that should have been Robert April and the maiden voyage of NCC-1701 in 2245. Scott Bakula would make a perfect April. (And the tech level and aliens we were meeting in the show were mid-23rd-century-appropriate.)

    This, though, I am decidedly unoptimistic about.

    --Jonah
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    Nov 2, 2015, 5:30 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #22

    I thin Enterprise had soooo much potential and it bushed against greatness several times.
    I wish they spent the entire first season or at least half before they launched


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    Nov 2, 2015, 5:32 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #23

    Despite Alex's involvement (It was his idea that the Enterprise should rise out of the ocean), I'm fairly confident that this won't take place in the JJverse. Unlike the movies before Trek09, the JJverse was created solely for the Paramount movie studio. A studio that is no longer associated with CBS. When the BluRay TNG sets were released, there was not one single preview for Star Trek Into Darkness, and a large chunk of the merchandise during the film's release was all focused around the Prime universe.

    This isn't a Marvel situation where the MCU and ABC/Netflix shows can coincide with one another. This is Disney Marvel and Fox Marvel. Whatever rights each studio has, they don't want the other studio to have a part in it. Why would CBS, a studio that owns the Star Trek rights outside of the movies be dictated by a universe that belongs to a completely different studio? CBS has their own universe with hundreds of hours worth of content that spans decades, and they want to conform to a universe that has only two movies that so far have accomplished... Destroying Vulcan, destroy the character of Khan and making Earth a primary setting. Seriously, it won't take much to get beyond what Star Trek Beyond is going to cover, which is already banking on a villain who's bent on mass destruction (4th film in a row).
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    Nov 2, 2015, 5:53 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #24

    I long for the days where the villains arnt villains but flawed heroes who've lost their way
    Where the conflict is resolved with understanding instead of photon torpedoes


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    Nov 2, 2015, 5:55 PM - Re: New Star Trek TV Series in Works #25

    There's not enough detail to get really excited or to be really bummed out.

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