Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
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jlee562
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I was just about to post that io9 link.....
I mean, it might be because the Destiny 2 Beta is in the news, but these Klingon costumes look a lot like Destiny warlocks to me.
I'm still pretty ambivalent about the Klingon redesign. It just all feels so unnecessary.
The away team "armor" also seems fairly derivative of the Starship troopers armor.
I mean, it might be because the Destiny 2 Beta is in the news, but these Klingon costumes look a lot like Destiny warlocks to me.
I'm still pretty ambivalent about the Klingon redesign. It just all feels so unnecessary.
The away team "armor" also seems fairly derivative of the Starship troopers armor.
Riceball
Master Member
I'm kind of iffy on the whole idea of away team body armor, while it makes sense on the surface it's something we've seen very little of in the entire history of the franchise. The closest thing we've seen to this is the armor worn by the Enterprise's security personnel in ST III and VI(?). At the same time, it is easily explained away why we never see it in TOS on, all they have to say that it was a brief experiment by Starfleet and it was decided that it wasn't worth it, wasn't liked by Starfleet personnel, or just didn't work and couldn't protect them from even a paper cut.
Re: The Torchbearer suit:
"Spider-Klingon! Spider-Klingon!
Smoking whatever the '60s were on!"
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Well, they would have been mostly worn by redshirts.
Gotta love that morale, though. They still go on away missions despite having a survival rate less than that of a Klingon on the ground floor of Kashyyk...
"Spider-Klingon! Spider-Klingon!
Smoking whatever the '60s were on!"
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Well, they would have been mostly worn by redshirts.
Gotta love that morale, though. They still go on away missions despite having a survival rate less than that of a Klingon on the ground floor of Kashyyk...
jlee562
Sr Member
They're also showing a Klingon "periscopic Klingon bridge officer helmet," which "worn by Klingon pilots to to provide a Heads Up Display of weapons systems, three-dimensional star system charts and other critical tactical information essential to controlling the ship’s navigational and weapons systems."
But wait....we've established in Trek canon that Klingon ships do have those periscope targeting systems, well, at least the STV one did:
Were there other examples in the canon? I can't recall offhand. While I don't think that the production team has displayed a gross indifference towards continuity, and I don't expect them to just duplicate what we saw in TOS (or for that matter, Enterprise[or for that matter, the Kelvin from the JJVerse]). But at the same time....I can't have been the only one that remembered that the Klingons already had the periscope and that a new technology didn't need to be invented to be ret-conned into the ST universe. Especially if it's going to be in a such a way where we are to believe that in the past Klingons had these cool helmets with HUDs, but for some reason, decided to switch to a big bulky periscope with a 2d display, so the captain could spin around in his chair.
But wait....we've established in Trek canon that Klingon ships do have those periscope targeting systems, well, at least the STV one did:
Were there other examples in the canon? I can't recall offhand. While I don't think that the production team has displayed a gross indifference towards continuity, and I don't expect them to just duplicate what we saw in TOS (or for that matter, Enterprise[or for that matter, the Kelvin from the JJVerse]). But at the same time....I can't have been the only one that remembered that the Klingons already had the periscope and that a new technology didn't need to be invented to be ret-conned into the ST universe. Especially if it's going to be in a such a way where we are to believe that in the past Klingons had these cool helmets with HUDs, but for some reason, decided to switch to a big bulky periscope with a 2d display, so the captain could spin around in his chair.
This from TMP.
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Angelus Lupus
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Well, the daggers/knives have gone from "Gil Hibben" to "Kit Rae" :facepalm
The props people seem to be following the "Prime universe, a decade before TOS" brief, but the costumers? What the hell is that mech suit armour all about? :confused That's JJ meets H.R. Giger! :eek
The props people seem to be following the "Prime universe, a decade before TOS" brief, but the costumers? What the hell is that mech suit armour all about? :confused That's JJ meets H.R. Giger! :eek
I'm starting the movement "Not My Klingons!" :lol I could see if they said this was another branch species or something, but it's too different.
It's as if CBS wants to make the costumes as complex as possible to keep cosplayers from making the costumes.
Obviously they've underestimated the capabilities and determination of cosplayers...
SmilingOtter
Master Member
And nothing says "Klingon" like having females with tentacle-arms sculpted on your armor's greaves.
Don't get me wrong - the armor is fascinating. But there's nothing about it that bears any resemblance to ANYTHING Klingon in any of the previous properties (aside from the emblem on the shoulder.) The Starfleet uniforms at least look like Starfleet uniforms, if from 20-50 years after Picard.
Don't get me wrong - the armor is fascinating. But there's nothing about it that bears any resemblance to ANYTHING Klingon in any of the previous properties (aside from the emblem on the shoulder.) The Starfleet uniforms at least look like Starfleet uniforms, if from 20-50 years after Picard.
Sweet mother of Zeus I want one...
BlobVanDam
Sr Member
These props are the first thing I've liked about this show so far. That phaser definitely has the oldschool look, as do the tricorder and communicator. That phaser rifle looks pretty cool too.
But that Klingon armour kind of cancels out anything else. Horrible generic Hollywood design.
But that Klingon armour kind of cancels out anything else. Horrible generic Hollywood design.
MooCriket
Master Member
If I just looked at this image not knowing it was supposed to be Klingon, I would automatically assume it is something H.R. Geiger inspired. Tentacle women, eh? Wow.
robn1
Master Member
If you think the Klingons and their armor is bad check out the ships, I'm gonna need that barf bag again.
SDCC17: ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Concept Art Details Klingon And Federation Ships
SDCC17: ‘Star Trek: Discovery’ Concept Art Details Klingon And Federation Ships
Bones_68
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I don't mean to pile on but it's very bizarre that the Federation ship feel more like a Klingon vessel than the Klingon vessel does. Aside from the iconic shapes of the communicator, phaser and tricorder, everything else feels like it comes from the "throw it in a blender and see what we get" school of design.
SmilingOtter
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I can totally see that as a ST ship. Just not a Klingon ship. Maybe in the same period as the Enterprise-J, but that's it.
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