sqbiedoo
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Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
So no need to do finger crossing :lol
So no need to do finger crossing :lol
Attention: BANDAI will stop selling kits outside Japan
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Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
Possible but Bandai should've banned online retailers from selling its Gundam model kits and the rest of its catalogue overseas, that hasn't happened yet, it was also an agreement with Bandai USA who don't necessarily have the same catalogue or hold the same rights as their counterparts in Asia. LBX especially, Bandai USA holds a license to sell LBX Sprukits in the states but the Japanese LBX kits haven't been delisted from online stores.
Many Japanese hobby companies have also been selling their products abroad through their preferred/official distributors ever since yet haven't imposed the same restraining order on Japanese online stores to prevent them from shipping these products to other countries.
But who knows? Maybe Bandai USA nabbed a deal at the last minute and we'll be seeing Star Wars under their Sprukits label soon.
Possible but Bandai should've banned online retailers from selling its Gundam model kits and the rest of its catalogue overseas, that hasn't happened yet, it was also an agreement with Bandai USA who don't necessarily have the same catalogue or hold the same rights as their counterparts in Asia. LBX especially, Bandai USA holds a license to sell LBX Sprukits in the states but the Japanese LBX kits haven't been delisted from online stores.
Many Japanese hobby companies have also been selling their products abroad through their preferred/official distributors ever since yet haven't imposed the same restraining order on Japanese online stores to prevent them from shipping these products to other countries.
But who knows? Maybe Bandai USA nabbed a deal at the last minute and we'll be seeing Star Wars under their Sprukits label soon.
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justinplayfair
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To be fair to Revell (though I'm not sure they deserve fairness at the moment), they don't own Robotech and haven't produced Robotech kits since the mid-80's. A company named Harmony Gold owns Robotech and has blocked the import of Macross toys, while they've produced their own toys with a US based manufacturer. I WISH Harmony Gold would license new, accurate Robotech kits but they have no interest in doing so...
To be fair to Revell (though I'm not sure they deserve fairness at the moment), they don't own Robotech and haven't produced Robotech kits since the mid-80's. A company named Harmony Gold owns Robotech and has blocked the import of Macross toys, while they've produced their own toys with a US based manufacturer. I WISH Harmony Gold would license new, accurate Robotech kits but they have no interest in doing so...
Pinousse
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Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
Will do it for the 3 of us just in case
Will do it for the 3 of us just in case
hugescale
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Who has the biggest interest in taking actions to prevent Star Wars items from being sold to places were the companies do not have the license?
I do not think that it is Revell. Revell does targets a totally different age group with their "easy kits" and "light and sound kits".
The company with the most interest is the holder of the license. It is Disney.
According to a statement from Georg Lucas, for legal reasons Lucas film had (and now Disney have) to act against illegal exports, otherwise they are in danger of losing the license and a hell of a lot money. When making this statement to fans, Georg Lucas tried to get some understanding for the legal situation from the fans. He avoided to directly say, that he and Lucas Film have no interest to prevent Fans from buying Star Wars items from all over the world. It was obvious that were he is in danger to loose the license he will act, otherwise he and Lucas Film would look away.
In my opinion, Disney is in the same situation. Like Lucas Film did, they will act when they have to, they will look away where ever they can.
Michael
Who has the biggest interest in taking actions to prevent Star Wars items from being sold to places were the companies do not have the license?
I do not think that it is Revell. Revell does targets a totally different age group with their "easy kits" and "light and sound kits".
The company with the most interest is the holder of the license. It is Disney.
According to a statement from Georg Lucas, for legal reasons Lucas film had (and now Disney have) to act against illegal exports, otherwise they are in danger of losing the license and a hell of a lot money. When making this statement to fans, Georg Lucas tried to get some understanding for the legal situation from the fans. He avoided to directly say, that he and Lucas Film have no interest to prevent Fans from buying Star Wars items from all over the world. It was obvious that were he is in danger to loose the license he will act, otherwise he and Lucas Film would look away.
In my opinion, Disney is in the same situation. Like Lucas Film did, they will act when they have to, they will look away where ever they can.
Michael
Furagu
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Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
I just placed an order at HLJ for the snow speeder, Tie Fighter and Y wing. It went without a glitch, I got the conformation for the order straight away. It is monday afternoon in Japan right now, so maybe HLJ has not been notified by Bandai yet? I'll have to wait for my shipping notice, then I will start breathing again.
I just placed an order at HLJ for the snow speeder, Tie Fighter and Y wing. It went without a glitch, I got the conformation for the order straight away. It is monday afternoon in Japan right now, so maybe HLJ has not been notified by Bandai yet? I'll have to wait for my shipping notice, then I will start breathing again.
spinner 44
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Sources tell me the ban is coming from Disney itself. Not Revell.
Sources tell me the ban is coming from Disney itself. Not Revell.
Dobber
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Yeah, I read that too.
Curious why it only seems to be being applied to Bandai, though? The Revell kits are still being listed on Japanese sites. Shouldn't they be restricted to N. America and Europe?
P.S. I love the current RPF banner, with Kirk looking at and not being able to reach the dying Spock....we are Kirk and the out of reach Spock are the Bandai kits...very fitting :lol
Chris
Yeah, I read that too.
Curious why it only seems to be being applied to Bandai, though? The Revell kits are still being listed on Japanese sites. Shouldn't they be restricted to N. America and Europe?
P.S. I love the current RPF banner, with Kirk looking at and not being able to reach the dying Spock....we are Kirk and the out of reach Spock are the Bandai kits...very fitting :lol
Chris
Dedalus5550
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Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
Mike Todd
I'm unclear about what Lucas Film did about kits being sold outside the market. I never noticed any restrictions on buying FM SW stuff through online Japanese shops. If these Japanese online shops stop shipping to the US, it will be a new thing. And how would Disney/Lucasfilm lose the license and any money? Unless the license they lose is from competitors, like Revell. So ultimately, the pressure comes from there. I don't think anyone has suggested that Revell sent a letter directly to Bandai or sellers, but it still seems like that is the source of the issue.
Mike Todd
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I'm sure the ban is a combo of both. Disney is ferocious in protecting its property and Revell USA was probably whinning about the praise heaped on the initial offerings by Bandai and how their upcoming product paled in comparison.
I'm sure the ban is a combo of both. Disney is ferocious in protecting its property and Revell USA was probably whinning about the praise heaped on the initial offerings by Bandai and how their upcoming product paled in comparison.
Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
Revell also recently acquired the Fine Molds kits and will be selling them under their brand this year. They have every reason to want to keep people away from the Bandai kits. They likely paid a lot of money for access to those molds and they're all inferior to Bandai's work.\\
Revell also recently acquired the Fine Molds kits and will be selling them under their brand this year. They have every reason to want to keep people away from the Bandai kits. They likely paid a lot of money for access to those molds and they're all inferior to Bandai's work.\\
crackerjazz
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Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
This makes my heart sink
This makes my heart sink
hugescale
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Fortunately most customs did not know, so most kits came through.
Michael
Lucas Film told German customs that they do not want Fine Molds kits to be imported into Germany. So German customs did sent some of my kits to Lucas attorney. Standard procedure in that case was destruction of the item. That happened to quite a number of folks here in Germany with items produced by Fine Molds and by other companies.
Fortunately most customs did not know, so most kits came through.
Michael
nogga_nootch
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Amazon uk still has all the current released bandai kits from various japanese sellers, nothing posted there about the ban, i currently have two on the way so hopefully they'll arrive.
Amazon uk still has all the current released bandai kits from various japanese sellers, nothing posted there about the ban, i currently have two on the way so hopefully they'll arrive.
hugescale
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Until we have proper inside information, it is all speculation.
Michael
I can follow to what you have written. I think too, that Revell can be the one that is behind. I just do not think they are. When I was in contact with Revell Germany (see former post) they had absolutely no interest in taking action because they did not see an influence on their sales. Maybe with Revell USA we have a different situation. Maybe it was Fine Molds trying to sell their kits via Revell in USA. Many people say, that they were the ones who pointed Lucas Film against Anigrand.
Until we have proper inside information, it is all speculation.
Michael
Dobber
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Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
I agree, BUT why would/should they care? As the Revell defenders keep saying and praising, these kits aren't aimed at us, they are designed for kids and beginners to get them interested in the hobby. Hell, even the GM of Revell said that. The problem also is that their then are NO quality kits for we older/experienced modelers. Revell says they do in the form of the FM kits, but that is from a different product line as far as I'm concerned, as they are from the OT. That still leaves nothing from TFA for more advanced modelers in N. America and Europe. Which SUCKS
Chris
I agree, BUT why would/should they care? As the Revell defenders keep saying and praising, these kits aren't aimed at us, they are designed for kids and beginners to get them interested in the hobby. Hell, even the GM of Revell said that. The problem also is that their then are NO quality kits for we older/experienced modelers. Revell says they do in the form of the FM kits, but that is from a different product line as far as I'm concerned, as they are from the OT. That still leaves nothing from TFA for more advanced modelers in N. America and Europe. Which SUCKS
Chris
Dobber
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Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
Like I said in my quote above, IF the FM imports are the cause, it still shouldn't matter. Those kits are from the OT, and still leaves nothing from TFA for more advanced modelers.
Chris
Like I said in my quote above, IF the FM imports are the cause, it still shouldn't matter. Those kits are from the OT, and still leaves nothing from TFA for more advanced modelers.
Chris
Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
I wouldn't say that. The skill level two kit coming out in October look to be QUITE accurate to ILM's models from what I've seen. Accurate in detail and proportion. Well, not the Falcon, but the new TIE, X-wing and Kylo Ren shuttle. I think they will build up to very nice display pieces. The only thing might be that the detail is a bit soft, as sometimes Revell's stuff is. We'll just have to wait and see.
I wouldn't say that. The skill level two kit coming out in October look to be QUITE accurate to ILM's models from what I've seen. Accurate in detail and proportion. Well, not the Falcon, but the new TIE, X-wing and Kylo Ren shuttle. I think they will build up to very nice display pieces. The only thing might be that the detail is a bit soft, as sometimes Revell's stuff is. We'll just have to wait and see.
Re: Attention: BANDAI may stop selling kits outside Japan
I believe it is Disney acting on Revell's behalf. This currently appears to only affect model kits (and Bandai's specifically). Bandai's pre-assembled Star Wars figures are not limited, only the model kits.
Certainly not the end of the world, not even close, but very annoying.
I believe it is Disney acting on Revell's behalf. This currently appears to only affect model kits (and Bandai's specifically). Bandai's pre-assembled Star Wars figures are not limited, only the model kits.
Certainly not the end of the world, not even close, but very annoying.
