Well, like I've said many times before I have to disagree about the length. I believe they're all the way to the bottom of the hilt. However, that's actually secondary to the fact that their appears to be two different grip heights. Meaning they are tall like the fathead poster. To me the snow scene saber seems to have tall grips. Of course until we can pull a screen shot it's anyone's guess but the reference material I have there is a discrepancy between Mazs box saber and the one in the snow. This would indicate two props regardless of grip length...which I still believe is long.