Bones_68
Sr Member
Yep, I'll bet we've all made a few of those awkward speeches at one time or another. I like what Lucas is saying in those quotes above, I just don't think he managed to pull it off in the movie.
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Pre-release)
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Yep, I'll bet we've all made a few of those awkward speeches at one time or another. I like what Lucas is saying in those quotes above, I just don't think he managed to pull it off in the movie.
The fireplace scene was wildly inappropriate.
That was something GL wished HAD happened to him...
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Regarding Mark's comments about Ben being the chosen one, Anthony Breznican in this interview on the Steele Wars Podcast clears up what he felt Mek meant by that comment that he reported on. Basically that Ben was seen by Luke as the heir apparent to lead his new Jedi Order, not a Chosen One as per the prophecy of the Force. That was his opinion but since he was the one Mark said it to he at least has the proper context. It's a great interview.
http://steelewars.com/anthony-breznican-ew-tlj/
http://steelewars.com/anthony-breznican-ew-tlj/
That's how I took that. Lucas was clear that Anakin was the Chosen One.
Anakin didn't even get any after that! They said it was their first kiss. C'mon!
I will change my opinion on the walker if it walks like a gorilla. That would just be ridiculous.
Also I forget who said that Star Destroyer looks like a fan design, check that site I posted last night because even a fan design would be better! Everyone complains that Lucas didn't listen to anyone, well I hope one of the artists on this would have spoken up and said they could do better. I think most fans could sketch up something cooler than that. Yeah it apparently fits the script, but c'mon at least try to make it look cool!
The fireplace scene was wildly inappropriate.
Anakin didn't even get any after that! They said it was their first kiss. C'mon!
I will change my opinion on the walker if it walks like a gorilla. That would just be ridiculous.
Also I forget who said that Star Destroyer looks like a fan design, check that site I posted last night because even a fan design would be better! Everyone complains that Lucas didn't listen to anyone, well I hope one of the artists on this would have spoken up and said they could do better. I think most fans could sketch up something cooler than that. Yeah it apparently fits the script, but c'mon at least try to make it look cool!
Jedi-72
Sr Member
That doesn't make it good dialogue or a good scene. I can still recall the collective groans and laughter in the theater during that exchange. It was embarrassing. I was no Casanova with the ladies in my teens, buy if I had spoken to a girl like that then I would've deserved to be single. This is one of the most mocked and reviled scenes in the PT for a reason.
doctorDWwho
Sr Member
Honestly everything in seeing about this movie is just 'meh'. The designs (not just the vehicles, but the weapons and costumes too) just feel like they skipped half the steps in the design development process, just took the first rough sketch and toned it down a bit, and then used it. And the more I see about the plot the more it looks like it'll be a rehash of empire.
It's like everyone in production has already run out of ideas, which is ridiculous.
It's like everyone in production has already run out of ideas, which is ridiculous.
PantheraGem
Sr Member
I think good ideas probably abound. Disney/LFL just chooses the familiar as it's more "safe" for a return on their investment.
Reaction from Ansel Hsiao (Star Wars Essential Guide to Warfare illustrator, well one of them) on the Dreadnaught: http://fractalsponge.net/?p=2568
glunark
Sr Member
If that walker stands on it's hind legs, i'm just gonna say 'saw that coming'
Seems as if someone high up the chain is of the mantra bigger = better.
OT, Tie fighter = 1 seater
ST, Tie fighter =2 seater with more room inside than that
OT, Death Star = Size of a small moon
ST, Death Star WAS a large moon or small planet.
OT, Star Destroyer
ST, new SD is a piece of pizza 5 miles long.
Seems as if the First Order isn't doing anything different, they just have bigger stuff and more troopers.
To be fair it only took three films in the original trilogy for them to come with a bigger death star, and one film for a 15 mile long super star destroyer.
JD
Master Member
The guy likes his own designs better. Go figure.
mkstewartesq
Sr Member
Deleted - link to article already posted upthread. Sorry.
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cboath
Master Member
Please...they coulda made that mega SD like like a borg cube and it likely wouldn't affect the bottom line by a dollar.
Well, I guess the First Order would say the Resistance is useless.
Bones_68
Sr Member
The fireplace scene was wildly inappropriate.
Hey, George spent his teens fixing and driving roadsters. I'm sure he's got at least a couple of good stories!
I know we're talking about make believe spaceships and all but Hsiao makes some excellent points.
JD
Master Member
He sounds like your average whiny fanboy, stomping his feet, crying "it's not done the way I want it done."
I don't think it's the greatest design I've ever seen; but, I haven't seen it in the context of the film. I don't think this is the only First Order big ship we're going to see, so this could just be a bit player as far as starships go - and not meant to distract from those that are a bigger player to the story.
JediMichael
Master Member
Kinda hoping this Super Star Destroyer will have a small part or maybe more in the background, because it sure is so basic compared to Vader's Executor.
Bones_68
Sr Member
I don't know about stomping his feet but, sure, he's a little whiny in his intro with the Mary Sue junk and the whole "turn back now if you can't handle it" like he's about to discuss open heart surgery. But I think his points about building visual clues into a model to suggest scale and believability are insightful as to why the new Dreadnought design seems off.
But you're right, this particular ship is probably a bit player in the grand scheme. We're all just spitballing while waiting for the new trailer to drop.
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