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  1. ProfKSergeev's Avatar
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    Aug 13, 2015, 5:12 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #26

    Atesta, this kit is long OOP. Ebay is the best place to check.
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    Feb 23, 2016, 12:44 AM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #27

    Any updates on this?
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    Mar 10, 2017, 11:36 AM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #28

    Did this ever get finished?
    Last edited by tgreco; Mar 10, 2017 at 11:41 AM.
  4. Member Since
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    May 15, 2017, 12:19 AM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #29

    Not done yet. As an airline pilot, my time at home is precious, and limited. I have some 3D printed parts now that eased some of the scratch building. I'm currently correcting the length and shape of the warp nacelles.

    Ill post some progress pics when I get back home.

    Tracy
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    May 16, 2017, 12:08 AM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #30

    Here's some of the 3D printed parts. The bridge, the Impulse Crystal, the NX Observation dome, the Warp Nacelle greebles, and the aft Torp Launchers







    The Warp Nacelles are 1 1/4" too short, so I fashioned a dense foam master, then filled and sanded it to be molded.







    Two castings were made and added into both Nacelle bottom Masters/ Bucks.



    Like the secondary hull, the bow of the Warp nacelles are completely off. I traced a scaled image of the studio model to make a template to re-shape the top and bottom bow parts.



    Sanding together to ensure both nacelles have the same shape.



    The template and the bottoms are cemented to their plates.



    Using the same template, I made the plates for the top hood.





    Next will be to apply Apoxie Sculpt to the Bow parts to reshape just like I did with the secondary hull's bow.

    Tracy
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    May 17, 2017, 9:14 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #31

    The same template was used to make the leading edge of the Top Bow shroud.



    Lunar kit shrouds cemented onto the new shaped profile.



    The trailing edge of the top shroud needed to be corrected to work with the coming new shape.



    Using thin styrene to make the patterns, they are cemented into place.



    Apoxie Scultp was added to fill the extension plug, and flesh out the new shape of the nacelle bow.





    Multiple sessions of sanding, and filling to come with priming, and refining the shape.

    Tracy
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    May 17, 2017, 9:18 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #32

    double post
    Last edited by Vidar 710; May 17, 2017 at 9:26 PM.
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    May 19, 2017, 1:55 AM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #33

    First round for refining the shape of the Nacelles bows. The Apoxie Sculpt has been sanded to shape.



    Next, filler will be applied to cover seems and imperfections in the nacelles.

    Tracy
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    May 20, 2017, 12:15 AM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #34

    Nacelles with their first primer coat, and the first round of filler to smooth out any imperfections.







    Tracy
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    May 20, 2017, 9:05 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #35

    Loving this!
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    May 20, 2017, 10:29 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #36

    Back and forth with priming and sanding to level the surface.







    Nacelle bottoms and forward top cowls are complete! Shown here with the primary hulls superstructure.







    Tracy
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    Jun 2, 2017, 3:43 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #37

    Superb work, I would kill for a large scale Excelsior kit someday, keep it going!
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    Jun 21, 2017, 7:56 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #38

    Tons of work finishing the primary hull masters. Pics to come when I get home off my current trip.

    The top half needed extreme filling and reshaping, but the bottom was even worse. Completely inaccurate requiring a complete reshaping.

    cant wait to share the images of the progress.

    Tracy
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    Jun 25, 2017, 11:28 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #39

    Here's how the progress of fixing the bottom of the primary hull went...

    Original Lunar Models vacuum form part.



    Roughed out changes to be made



    Fleshing out the trench parts.



    Trench Assembly





    New profile and trench ready for installation.



    Making the cuts.





    Installing the changes.



    from the inside of the hull. styrene re-enforcements were made.



    Trench fully installed



    Determining the shaped of the Dorsal's Trench using a scaled image of the studio model. This also determined the correct shape of the secondary hull's bow.



    The crest is removed and a flat plate is installed for mounting the scratch-built Planetary Sensor Dome.



    Filling is the over-exaggerated grid details. I used Apoxie Paste to ensure the thin styrene would not be melted or deformed from standard fillers and puttys.



    A pater template is made and test fit to the hull.



    The cut for the Dorsal Trench is made.



    Base Plate is glued into place.



    The vertical wall is glued into plase. as well as a piece of sheet styrene to level out the dip in the hull.



    Plenty of back-n-forth with filling, sanding a priming until a smooth surface is made. Here it sits with the resurfaced upper half of the primary hull.



    With the bottom of the secondary hull's master complete, preliminary work has started on the Dorsal/Neck assembly. Templates shown in place.



    Tracy
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    Jun 26, 2017, 2:08 AM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #40

    Excellent, you are really putting the hours in on this and it's looking great!
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    Jul 15, 2017, 1:12 AM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #41

    Dorsal assembly in-progress images.

    The entire assembly is scratch-built. However, the inserts in the front of the dorsal will be 3D printed.

    Cutting the styrene by hand.





    41 plates were cut. More than half that didn't quite make the grade were relegated to being trimmed down to be the spacer plates.



    The Large plates and Spacer plates were clamped together for sanding to unify their shape.



    The Upper Adapter that attaches the dorsal to the primary hull is framed in styrene...





    ... then shaped with Apoxie Sculpt.





    Here, the ruffed out parts are stacked unglued at this point to check for alignment.









    Clean-up of the individual plates and the cutting of the two forward ports is the next step.

    Thanx for lookin'!

    Tracy
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    Jul 15, 2017, 9:11 AM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #42

    This looks fantastic! Exciting to see one of these kits being completed so wonderfully!
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    Jul 15, 2017, 2:12 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #43

    Such a great build.
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    Aug 9, 2017, 1:05 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #44

    Work on the dorsal section continues...



    I assembled in 3 sections. The reasone is to keep the Torp recess section separate until I determine how big to cut the opening for the 3D rendered Torp Launchers.

    The lower section, the Torp Trench section, and the upper/Adapter section.





    Here they sit stacked.





    Further work on the adapter is being done. The addition of styrene to fill where the saucer trench passes over the dorsal assembly. I roughed out the shape of the trench 'blocks', then applied a thin layer of Apoxie Sculpt and allowed it to set up. I then pressed the Adapter into the bottom of the primary hull to cast the profile of the trench. Once fully cured the excess was sanded away and polished to check for flaws.



    Top View





    Bottom view.





    Side View





    The top section of the Dorsal Assembly test fit into the bottom saucer's master.









    Once Bob "Aptiviaboy" Morgan has finished modeling the Dorsal Canon parts, I'll order them printed from Shapeways. Once I receive them, I can then determine how wide to cut the ports into the mid-section of the Dorsal Assembly.



    Tracy
    Last edited by Vidar 710; Aug 9, 2017 at 4:04 PM.
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    Aug 10, 2017, 2:25 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #45

    Plastic Stacking in another section of the ship is complete. This is the Conduit Blister between the Warp Nacelles.



    A slab of Resin inaccurately portraying the base of the blister is removed.









    7 plates... 3 large, 4 small spacers are cut from .7mm thick sheet styrene.







    Spacer plates are made after holes are drilled through all plates so they can be stacked on a jig for assembly alignment.







    Large plates and spacers.







    After plates assembled on a jig with the Conduit Blister.






    Tracy
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    Aug 12, 2017, 2:15 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #46

    Incredible job so far, the updated parts look light years better.
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    Aug 16, 2017, 4:33 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #47

    More work in progress to the dorsal.



    Determining the dorsal's lean angle using images of the studio model.... I have an earlier measurement of 31 degrees on another image, 29deg on this one. More than likely due to slightly different perspectives, so I "meaned" it out to 30 deg.







    Work on the Torp Launcher inserts is almost done. Much coordination between me, and Bob "Activaboy" Morgan.



    Studio model...





    3D model images



    front





    upside down side view





    right side up oblique





    Tracy
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    Aug 16, 2017, 5:58 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #48

    I also forgot to post a link to a ton of great reference shots of the studio model someone posted to imgur awhile back. Not sure if you need them but thought I'd share anyway: http://imgur.com/a/V98w5
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    4 Weeks Ago  Aug 17, 2017, 12:48 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #49

    I have all of those, but thanx for posting.

    Tracy
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    4 Weeks Ago  Aug 17, 2017, 1:42 PM - Re: Correcting the Lunar Models 41" Excelsior #50

    Did you continue this build from last year?

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