Prometheus (Post-release)

Jathoris said:

...Not to your liking? Then take your frustrations and get out there and make something that is, or simply just don't see the film...

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This is a review thread... or simply don't read it?

Seems to be a little bit of fanboyism creeping in here. 'WE' who have seen it are entitled to our opinions and I don't think there's any 'whining' going on; just honest feeling and critique.

I didn't like it, but not because it wasn't Alien. In fact, I disliked the inclusion of the "xeno-space jokey-morph" because it felt like a gimmick to just throw something Alien in there that wasn't needed.

I have problems with the film because of the characters and story - a problem I have with many other movies and it's usually not because it's not similar to this or similar to that... it's because it just lacks in those areas of the storytelling. In general I was pleased with where it departed from being like Alien and absolutely didn't think it needed a xenomorph or even a physical type monster like the xenomorph in there to be a good prequel to Alien.

And if you haven't seen the movie, why are you in here reading spoilers by and complain about those who actually have? Makes very little sense to me.

Jathoris, this is a post-release thread to discuss our varying opinions after watching the film. It's not a "Don't dare post here unless you have something nice to say" thread. Those who haven't seen the film yet should probably avoid this kind of review and analysis if they want to stay spoiler free.

It's a bit like peeking at your presents before Christmas day and finding out you aren't getting what you wanted. Best not to look at all.

For the record, I didn't expect Prometheus to be 'Alien' nor did I have any preconceived notion of disliking it before I went in to the cinema. I just wanted a great sic-fi film. I didn't get that. It wasn't crap but it wasn't great either. I went with 3 other people and we all felt the same way.

However, you might LOVE it. It's all subjective.

ob1al said:

Jathoris, this is a post-release thread to discuss our varying opinions after watching the film. It's not a "Don't dare post here unless you have something nice to say" thread. Those who haven't seen the film yet should probably avoid this kind of review and analysis if they want to stay spoiler free.

It's a bit like peeking at your presents before Christmas day and finding out you aren't getting what you wanted. Best not to look at all.

For the record, I didn't expect Prometheus to be 'Alien' nor did I have any preconceived notion of disliking it before I went in to the cinema. I just wanted a great sic-fi film. I didn't get that. It wasn't crap but it wasn't great either. I went with 3 other people and we all felt the same way.

However, you might LOVE it. It's all subjective.

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Oh no I agree with that entirely. Perhaps this should've been posted on the other thread now I think about it.:facepalm I'm okay with people hating it or loving it. Doesn't matter to me and this being a post-release thread, that's where it 'does' belong. There are some people who are just posting and spewing their dislikes other than here. Yes, it IS a case if you don't want to know, don't click or read and it's entirely appropriate here, I'm just wishing it would stay in here is all.

I didn't like The Mummy or Broken Arrow very much, I dont remember them being poor prequels to Alien at the time of viewing.

I f you went to see Prometheus and the soundtrack was entirely created from SPice Girls tunes I think you may view the opinion that it spoilt the film?

The score for the film was an aspect of its loss of tension be it a prequel a stand alone movie or a big magic book with real people in it.

There seems to be a common idea that if you dont like the movie its because its not Alien all over again,. Tut tut, to think we may have adult opinions about what we enjoy in a movie like story telling and tension and possibly class?

Its a great film and most likely I will go see it again and buy the Blu Ray and I'm glad it was made and I'm glad Ridley Scott made it. ITs a shame that it wasn't better as the subject deserve's the best you can get as its spurned from one of the most Iconic and Loved Movies of all time in my opinion.

Lets not get carried away with trying to make ourselves feel better by trashing opinion's, you will see it soon and have your opinion and thats great to.

Yes, that's the nature of the beast unfortunately. The more militant critics tend to have very strong opinions on internet forums.

But folks who haven't seen it yet shouldn't let anyone else's opinion, mine included, be rammed down their throats as gospel, go see it and make your own mind up.

ob1al said:

But folks who haven't seen it yet shouldn't let anyone else's opinion, mine included, be rammed down their throats as gospel, go see it and make your own mind up.

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Best advice ever.

My opinion is just that: my opinion. We are all different and like and appreciate different things.

So, should we keep using spoiler tags in this thread? Decided to do it in this post, just in case.

Too Much Garlic said:

So, should we keep using spoiler tags in this thread? Decided to do it in this post, just in case.

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Thanks. I would request using it for major plot revealing spoilers until next week or at least precede those sentences with the word SPOILERS as a warning.

I understand that it can become quite redundant when the whole purpose of this thread to discuss the movie in detail after watching it. But many who haven't watched the movie yet would still be tempted to see the on-going discussion here, to get an idea of the consensus towards the movie by other RPF members.

How do you use spoiler tags, I have no idea?

Guy Cowen said:

How do you use spoiler tags, I have no idea?

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Use the following format. But no need to include the asterisks (*) as that is just to show the format.

[spoiler*]Text content[/spoiler*]

You type [ followed by 'spoiler' then ]. To end the spoiler, you type the same thing but with / after [.

Edit: d'oh, much better description, Vivek.

I'll be making my mind up when the film opens in a week, but I've been expecting from day one that the bulk of the value for me was going to be art direction and buildup. I've had a great time and will continue to rate Prometheus (campaign) at least 9/10. Prometheus (movie) wasn't the main game for me. :lol

Eh, okay, so really I'm hoping I'll be in Birdie's camp, and will be bitching my head off if it turns out I can't be, same as everyone else. :unsure

I haven't seen it yet, but in my humble opinion it's an awesome movie and I loved it!

I did not understand the meaning of the opening scene ...

Edit: Something weird happened with my post causing half of the content to be missing, including the ending spoiler tag. Sorry about that.

Darth Lars said:

I did not understand the meaning of the opening scene ...

Spoiler

Why did the man drink the stuff in the jar?

Was he trying to commit suicide, or drink something that would alter himself into some

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Well, there's talk that this is the first of a trilogy so I guess a jar jar had to be mentioned at somepoint.

Huge,huge spoilers!!!! Possibly?

In answer to your question (and these aren't written down for me) my emotional response, having watched the film, is that I haven't a damn clue. The inference is that he destroyed his body to release his cellular DNA into Earths seas to start all life here. But as that was supposed to be billions of years ago I can't quite see it.Its a longtime for the others to be doing nothing I guess. Cup of Grue anyone?
The other possiblity is that his broken down DNA recombines with the simple single celled creatures all ready here to make a more complex multicellular form of life that eventually gave rise to us. But again, once you've "destroy" a chain of DNA as you see in the film it doesn't recombine nor pass on its structural information, it just becomes a mess of disassociated bases. What you saw here was a very bad interpretation of basic biology that made no sense at all.
Given the film title I would guess that as he appears to be abandoned on the Earth by the flying saucer, he did something very bad indeed and was being punished. That he ultimately chooses to sacrifice himself to kick start life again so the final result is that our species is created (and remember here its human beings that have end up looking like mini-me engineer replicas gone wrong, which may account for why the other had a negative reaction when it saw us) that may link it to the myth eventually but its a stretch. Arguably its what happens at the very end of the film that is more like the Prometheus story. But its all a huge muddle.This is typical Lindelof. It may have worked for a while in an episodic TV series like LOST but eventually people got very fed up with it.
And thats what happened time and again throughout the film. For a "thought provoking epic sci fi movie" I couldn't pick up any consistent thread in the story which explained what it all was supposed to be about, no comfortable structure to link it all together. And the longer that went on the more frustrating it got. For a while after seeing it I thought Sir Ridley was deliberately trying to say "there are no answers to life just more questions" but by then I emptied the bottle and sober up in the morning.
But then basic and obvious cause and effect was continually ignored by everyone in the story anyway. The man linked to the mapping probes runs away, GETS LOST then returns to the very place he ran away from in the first place, despite everyones position being marked on the map on the Prometheus and the continual radio/ video contact to the ship. A massive storm of deadly silica dust sandblasts several crew members ,whose suits and glass helmets don't appear to have a mark or speck of dust on them afterward. I could go on and on pointing out these common sense inconsistencies that just kept jerking me out of the film because you just could not ignore them whilst trying to make sense of what was supposed to be a complicated story.
It felt so bloody amateurish right to the very last frame and I was NOT expecting that from a Ridley Scott film. He painted a great picture with all the visual and technical flair you'd expect of him but what it was about,and what it attempted to explain in the end , well thats your guess as good as mine. To vague for my tastes .Go see it again and try to decide for yourself. But perhaps thats the idea.

Saw it yesterday... Well, not a great movie imho... I dont like 3D, I was very disapointed by how it was directed, the visual (the prometheus, the alien), the poor story and more...
Noomi Rapace was good though.

Right no big posts from me, i'm just back from watching it in 3D with DBOX - And i did like it, didn't love it, but yes definitely a decent movie.

Some meh moments and some yeah moments, overall and stepping back (not comparing it to Alien) it's a pretty good watch!

Incidently i thought the 3d was really good, there were a load of moments where i felt it had enhanced the overall look of the movie.

EDIT** - Slept on it and decided this morning, that it is VERY good, more i think on it, the more i liked it!