OMFG, I've been trying to get Henson studios and even Lucasfilm to take even one glance at the Hoggle at Unclaimed Baggage and have even tried convincing them to try and get it back. I live about 40 mins away from UB and have seen Hoggle many times from the beginning when they got it and it didn't look so bad to more recently when it was seriously falling apart but I haven't seen it since this restoration. My dreams of seeing the original Hoggle have now once and for all been dashed to pieces. Whatever urge I had before to see this thing somewhere other than Scottsboro has simply left. It truly is a sad day.
*Email of complaint to UB about to be fired off.*
Ryu
*Email of complaint to UB about to be fired off.*
Ryu
SmilingOtter
Master Member
That's mighty brave of him to post the picture of what Hoggle should look like along with the "after" pics...
seven
Sr Member
How do you call destroying the original and resculpting it a "restoration"?
I would think that he did not restore anything. He made his own hoggle with the original.
It's like me stripping the paint off the Mona Lisa in my "resotration" and repainting it completly with "new fresh paint that will last" still using the original mat and frame.
Totally bogus.
I would think that he did not restore anything. He made his own hoggle with the original.
It's like me stripping the paint off the Mona Lisa in my "resotration" and repainting it completly with "new fresh paint that will last" still using the original mat and frame.
Totally bogus.
I almost threw up. Jeezuz. People who are out of their league should recognize it and pass when presented with jobs like this. It's a historical piece of film history and should have been handled by someone with experience. This guy's field is restoring porcelin dolls. Not a good effort, he's a fool.
I wouldn't take a job restoring a priceless antique porsche. I don't work in cars.
His site shows a picture of this:
And then at the bottom of the page this:
Oh... he's good. :angry
I wouldn't take a job restoring a priceless antique porsche. I don't work in cars.
His site shows a picture of this:
And then at the bottom of the page this:
Oh... he's good. :angry
OldKen
Master Member
when i saw the title i thought... hey another wampa save.
then i saw the OP wasnt wampa...
then...
LAME... :thumbsdown :thumbsdown :cry
why.?.?
if Tom coulda gotten ahold of that... this is one of those rare times when i wish more people knew about the RPF and the talent here.
then i saw the OP wasnt wampa...
then...
LAME... :thumbsdown :thumbsdown :cry
why.?.?
if Tom coulda gotten ahold of that... this is one of those rare times when i wish more people knew about the RPF and the talent here.
Jedirick
Sr Member
I realize there is nothing one can do to put life back into deterriorating 3 and 4 part cooked foams BUT...
This is terrible.
How could he have studdied any screen caps or other reference photos and come up with a smooth hairless face?
The portions of the original cooked foam face easily gave him a perfect reference for texture, wrinkle formation etc. He could have used the Silicone Inc's silicone based life cast system and at least gotten accurate molds of some of the intact surface sections.
He used foam backed cloth, probably like automotive headliner. Which means 10-15 years down the road its gonna be rotted again.
The resulpt should have been done with silicone as the end product and it would have lasted eons.
Every SPFX artist is agonizing right now. Hope Wampa doesn't see this thread.
This is terrible.
How could he have studdied any screen caps or other reference photos and come up with a smooth hairless face?
The portions of the original cooked foam face easily gave him a perfect reference for texture, wrinkle formation etc. He could have used the Silicone Inc's silicone based life cast system and at least gotten accurate molds of some of the intact surface sections.
He used foam backed cloth, probably like automotive headliner. Which means 10-15 years down the road its gonna be rotted again.
The resulpt should have been done with silicone as the end product and it would have lasted eons.
Every SPFX artist is agonizing right now. Hope Wampa doesn't see this thread.
That's a terrible job, only Wampa could have done the restoration justice.. :thumbsup
Their first mistake was not having Wampa Do it.
Their first mistake was not having Wampa Do it.
Robot Monster
Sr Member
You can't touch or feel it or collect it. Which do you like more?
Looking at the real live model of the enterprise or seeing the computer image?
Tek
DARKSIDE72
Sr Member
I've got to disargree, this would be no different than say one managed to get their hands on the original ANH Falcon, stripped it of all it's parts, added any old parts, and then painted it any old way.
Ghadrack
Sr Member
~ Edit ~ Sorry for the thread ressurection bump, research fail, I should have read all the links, I wasn't aware that this was common knowledge. Whelp I'll leave the links to Hoggle's new home for anyone interested.
A friend of mine went down to Unclaimed Baggage, it's the national repository for lost luggage where you can buy people's lost stuff, it is actually really fun to go sifting through, anyhow..... He was telling me that he saw the original Hoggle animatronic "puppet" on display there, at Unclaimed Baggage.
Here is a link to their site, http://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/ if you search Hoggle and Unclaimed Baggage you'll find a couple travel articles referencing the display. Is this what happened to the restored model, it was written off as a "Lost shipment" for insurance?
Heck there is a link to a picture on their site, click on the May I help you unpack link on interesting stuff, it has a picture of him. http://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/interestingstuff.html
A friend of mine went down to Unclaimed Baggage, it's the national repository for lost luggage where you can buy people's lost stuff, it is actually really fun to go sifting through, anyhow..... He was telling me that he saw the original Hoggle animatronic "puppet" on display there, at Unclaimed Baggage.
Here is a link to their site, http://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/ if you search Hoggle and Unclaimed Baggage you'll find a couple travel articles referencing the display. Is this what happened to the restored model, it was written off as a "Lost shipment" for insurance?
Heck there is a link to a picture on their site, click on the May I help you unpack link on interesting stuff, it has a picture of him. http://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/interestingstuff.html
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Egon Spengler
Master Member
Disgusting! NO SKILL, NO RESPECT for the prop or the people that created it.
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