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    May 5, 2011, 4:01 PM - Judge Dredd costume - Comic book version (Judge Minty) #1

    This isn't so much a "build" thread as it is a "buy" thread, since I'll be buying and assembling most of this costume, and letting other folks that I purchase from do most of the building (with some modifications by me).

    Anyway, here's my Judge Dredd (comic book version) in progress. Updates will be sporadic and infrequent but I will have the whole thing done and ready to wear for this year's San Diego Comic-Con.

    BILLY CLUB (aka "day stick")
    I bought a genuine wood police baton online. Dredd is sometimes depicted with a more modern straight stick, but he usually has the more old-school shape so that's what I opted for. I've got one extra one too if someone needs one. (just PM me). The only thing I don't like about this particular club is the flat end, which I plan to sand to round it off.

    BOOTS
    Like the great costumes created for Judge Minty, I went with some motocross boots. Not the same boots they used for Minty, but very similar.
    The problem with motocross boots is that they are not made for walking, they're made to protect your feet while you ride, and they're very uncomfortable to walk in for more than a few minutes (it's kind of like walking in ski boots).
    I have a very talented shoe maker and leather expert that I work with and he showed me the problem: Between the sole of the boot and where your foot rests is a very hard plastic piece, with a metal shank. So we removed the sole of the boot, took out the hard piece and then put on a new rugged boot sole. The boots are still a bit stiff overall, but WAY more comfortable than they were before. We also added a little height to make me taller (more Dredd-like) without it being an obvious platform shoe.

    Here are some photos of the boots as I bought them:
    Attachment 52518Attachment 52517Attachment 52516
    Some pictures of the sole removed, as well as the hard plastic midsole:
    Attachment 52519
    Another shot of the white midsole that we removed (you can barely see the metal piece inside):
    Attachment 52520
    The new soles, now much more comfortable and much more Dredd-like:
    Attachment 52521
    I will be removing the logos from the boots, putting on some Dredd-style toe caps and painting them green. More on those as they develop.

    THE LEATHERS
    Like the Minty costumes, I decided against doing a one-piece leather suit. They're more expensive, hotter, harder to get to fit properly, and harder to get in and out of.
    Instead, I'll be using a leather jacket and leather pants combo, with the utility belt used to hide the seam between the two. With any luck, it will look like a one-piece outfit.

    Since this would be a bespoke/custom jacket, I decided to contact South Beach Leather about having one made to my specs. I've bought from them many times before since I feel like they offer the best value for money for leather (I know that others have had problems with them in the past, but I've ordered about ten items from them over the years, with few problems).
    I needed a jacket with no pockets whatsoever, a single zipper up the middle, no seams on the back and a v-shape/athletic fit. One thing I like about SBL is that their items can be ordered to custom sizes at no extra charge (though custom-made items are not returnable, obviously). I ordered this jacket in a very tight fit, but it could easily be ordered a little looser.
    SBL's prices have gone up a bit recently, but I still think the price I paid for this custom-made jacket was less than I could've gotten it for elsewhere, and the leather is very good quality.

    Note about back seams: It can be rare to find an inexpensive leather jacket with no seams on the back, but I wanted it for this. It usually adds expense to a jacket because it means that a single very large piece of leather with no flaws must be used for the back of the jacket, as opposed to two smaller pieces of leather stitched together.

    The jacket features a zipper that stops just below the stand-up collar (similar to how Dredd is usually drawn) and the collar is 1 1/4" high.
    I am currently talking to SBL about adding this item to their website for other fans to order, so let me know if you would be interested in one.
    They also offer leather pants that can be ordered with no pockets and no belt loops to finish off the faux one-piece leather outfit look.

    I will soon be sewing some velcro onto the jacket in order to attach my shoulderpads and badge.
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    FACE:
    I'm probably going to do a false chin for this costume as well, inspired by Mr. Bungle's efforts.

    MORE INFO ON OTHER PARTS OF MY COSTUME COMING SOON...
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    May 5, 2011, 5:27 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #2

    Looking great!

    Brilliant work making the boots walkable! Those leathers look spot on, better than the ones we have for Minty as they're fitted bespoke for you.

    The Minty ones are worn by lot of different people and obviously fit some better than others.

    Looking forward to see this coming together!
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    May 5, 2011, 5:58 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #3

    Standing on the shoulders of giants always makes it easier to reach new heights.
    ; )
    Thanks for paving the way.
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    May 5, 2011, 7:21 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #4

    nice idea on the boots. loving the jacket!!!!
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    May 6, 2011, 10:30 AM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #5

    UPDATE:
    The leather jacket is NOW AVAILABLE from Southbeach leather.
    It is currently mistakenly listed as a Stallone-version jacket, but the other info in the listing is correct. I've just emailed them telling them to change it to make it clear that this is the comic book version.
    Judge Dredd Jacket starring Sylvester Stallone Jacket
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    May 6, 2011, 10:45 AM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #6

    SWEET!!! i am ordering mine this week!
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    May 6, 2011, 11:10 AM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #7

    Amazing stuff man!
    I agree that the two-piece leathers works better!
    Looking forward to see you fully suited up!
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    May 6, 2011, 2:14 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #8

    Max Replica said: View Post
    UPDATE:
    The leather jacket is NOW AVAILABLE from Southbeach leather.
    It is currently mistakenly listed as a Stallone-version jacket, but the other info in the listing is correct. I've just emailed them telling them to change it to make it clear that this is the comic book version.
    Judge Dredd Jacket starring Sylvester Stallone Jacket
    Cool are they going to be doing the trousers as well?

    Steven
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    May 6, 2011, 2:31 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #9

    For trousers, all somebody would need are the Southbeach MFP/Mad Max pants already available on their site. (that's the American definition of pants obviously)
    But when ordering those, one should specify that they want the pants with NO POCKETS AT ALL and NO BELT LOOPS. (Sometimes the Mad Max pants come with front pockets, and they usually come with belt loops).
    I don't think the no belt loops is enough of a variation for Southbeach to offer the Dredd pants as a separate item).

    For my trousers, I'm also cutting away part of the leather that covers the zipper, to give the illusion that the jacket zipper continues lower, the way a one-piece suit zipper would.

    I'll be posting photos of the outfit with the trousers soon.

    UPDATE - SBL now offers the Judge Dredd leather pants on the same page with their jacket. And they automatically come with no pockets and no belt loops.
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    Jun 6, 2011, 10:22 AM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #10

    Update:
    Someone I know just ordered a jacket from SBL and theirs had a seam down the back. This is incorrect. I expect SBL will fix it for them, but I suppose it's worth mentioning when you order that you want "no seam on the back of the jacket".
    There is sometimes a language barrier with SBL and they sometimes make mistakes. They're usually good about correcting them, but sending the stuff back and waiting for it to be redone is still a hassle best avoided.
    Most of their jackets (most leather jackets in general) do have a seam down the back so that's probably why they forgot.)

    ALSO: Pics of my complete outfit are coming very soon (like hopefully today). Sorry for the delay.
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    Jun 6, 2011, 1:30 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #11

    Okay, time to start posting some pics. First, the boots. And I need some input on these from you guys:
    Here they are with the toe pieces added (made by Custom Creations):
    Attachment 55719
    Now after being painted green. Some fake leather shin guards were added to give them a tougher look and to cover up the large Fox logos:
    Attachment 55713
    And finally, after I added some diluted black acrylic in places to give them more of a weathered look:
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    Question - Should I leave those side buckles silver? Or should I paint those green too? What about the rivets on the shin guards?

    Also, should I add a boot knife? Like this:
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    The sheath would be painted green to match the boots, but I was thinking of leaving the knife handle black. Dredd sometimes is drawn with a boot knife. The difference is that mine would be on the inside of the left boot, rather than the outside (it's too hard to put it on the outside because of all of the straps and buckles).
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    Jun 6, 2011, 7:07 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #12

    Looking cool! More pictures!

    Is the knife a dummy?

    It might be a tad big for a boot knife, but I don't think there is a definitive size on Dredd's, so I suppose it's up to you.

    I've always wondered why Dredd calls stuff out just before he does it, like "boot knife" or "Hi-Ex!"

    Steven
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    Jun 6, 2011, 7:20 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #13

    Steven,
    The knife is real. Just a cheap survival knife from eBay. Yeah, it's big. I need to see how it looks with my leg in the boot etc.. I'm worried it may be a tad too big to wear on the inside of my leg without rubbing against my other leg when I walk.
    Dredd's boot knife is usually shown pretty big in the comics (when they bother to include it), but then again, everything in the comics is a bit oversized.
    I have a Gerber Mk II for my Mad Max costume that I can try using. It's smaller. And I have a resin version of that I could use for Cons. But it didn't have enough of a "Dredd" look for my taste.
    We'll see.
    Dredd calling stuff out - yeah, I know. For things like "hi-ex" I always assumed his gun had voice-activated ammo selection. But somehow I doubt he has a voice-activated boot knife...

    More pics coming...
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    Jun 6, 2011, 8:16 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #14

    Okay, here's just a teaser. I've got more pics to upload when I get home in a few hours.

    Beware of dog? No, beware of Dredd!
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    Jun 6, 2011, 9:05 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #15

    Look pretty darn good to me!!!
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    Jun 6, 2011, 9:11 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #16

    I've seen that mask in person, no doubt an AWESOME mask
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    Jun 6, 2011, 9:29 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #17

    that is pretty bad ass, man!!! looks great.


    how did you mount the eagle and the shoulder pad??
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    Jun 6, 2011, 11:02 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #18

    Yeah! Judge Dredd!
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    Jun 6, 2011, 11:16 PM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #19

    Wow, awesome work man!
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    Jun 7, 2011, 12:39 AM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #20

    More info, followed by more pictures.

    I'm calling this outfit the "Minty Deluxe" since it's basically one of the Judge Minty costumes with a few of my embellishments.

    First, I wanted a zipper pull like Dredd usually has in the comics, meaning a big chunky pyramid-shaped one. Since I couldn't find one like that for sale anywhere I decided to make one myself.
    Metal fabrication is not one of my areas of ability to so I did it like this: I took a strap hinge, drilled an extra hole in it, cut it off with a hacksaw, and then painted it.
    Attachment 55778Attachment 55779
    While I was at it, I made a few extra:
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    I used rub n' buff, both gold and European gold. And I also changed the plastic chain to a real chain, using a couple of "repair links" to connect to the badge and the zipper.
    Attachment 55782
    Here is the finished zipper on the jacket (I replaced the zipper pull with one that's a universal pull, size #5, and it had the type of connecter where you can put a new pull onto it and then clamp it down with pliers - if that makes sense.)
    Attachment 55784

    And here is one of my zippers next to a #10 size zipper (the largest one I could find available anywhere and my backup until I made my own) just so you can get a size of scale and shape:
    Attachment 55781

    Here is the belt and holster. This is the same as the Judge Minty version except for the fact that I've added a holder for the billy club (or "day stick" as it's known in the comics). I took Mr. Bungle's idea and used a bayonet holder aka bayonet frog for this. But rather than buy one I had one made that is purpose built for the club.:
    Attachment 55783
    One more thing I still need to do is round off the flat end of this club, since that's usually the way the comic one is drawn.
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    Jun 7, 2011, 12:51 AM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #21

    I'm not sure if I'm going to stay with the metal zipper chain, I may go back to plastic. It seemed like the weight of the chain might have been pulling the zipper down a bit.

    For the leather pants, I had a couple of pieces of velcro stitched on to the knees to help keep the knee pads extra secure:
    Attachment 55785
    I also cut away part of the leather flap that covers the zipper on the pants. That way, when they're paired with the jacket it helps give the illusion of one long zipper, like in the comic. But it seems like the flap was sticking up a bit so I may stitch or velcro it down.:
    Attachment 55786
    The jacket itself has a bunch of velcro stitched into it, that's what I used to secure the badge and shoulder pieces, and even the utility belt.
    The shoulder pieces are molded in a relatively lightweight flexible rubber, with fabric glued to the back. I used Barge glue to add some velcro to the shoulder pieces and the badge, and the belt actually has a large continuous piece of velcro stitched to the inside of it:
    Attachment 55787
    I even put a couple of small pieces of velcro at the end of the sleeves. This enables me to tighten off the sleeves, making it easier to slip the gloves on.:
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    Having worn the whole outfit now (today was the first day I'd actually put the whole thing on!) I'm realizing that my boot knife won't work. The current version actually hits the knee pad.
    What might work would be a knife that is a bit smaller and lower, so that the knife handle doesn't rise higher than the top of the boot. So it's something I may still consider for the future.

    I also need to put some kind of lining in the helmet. I'll probably glue in some foam covered in black cotton.

    I am also probably going to do a false chin like Mr. Bungle's idea. I may also switch over to a boot holster like he's doing.


    THIS COSTUME IS STILL IN PROGRESS SO THERE WILL BE SEVERAL OTHER TWEAKS AND IMPROVEMENTS BEFORE IT APPEARS AT COMIC-CON.
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    Jun 7, 2011, 12:56 AM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #22

    More pictures of the costume.
    These are just some snapshots I took out my back door so they really don't do the costume justice.
    I'll try to have some pro photos to impress you with in a few weeks.

    And yes, I'm making the goofy Dredd face in all of these pics. I just can't help it. You put the leathers on and the scowl is just automatic.
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    Back view. The back of the jacket is actually pretty tight normally (as you can see in my first post in this thread). It's just extra wrinkled in this photo because of the way I'm holding my arms back.
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    I'm back at the gym these days so this outfit should be a bit tighter (in a good way) by the time I hit Comic-Con in July. Let's hope I can still squeeze into it...
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    Jun 7, 2011, 2:11 AM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #23

    One of the best Dredds i've ever seen!

    Rich
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    Jun 7, 2011, 3:00 AM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #24

    What an amazing result! It looks incredible!
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    Jun 7, 2011, 3:06 AM - Re: Jude Dredd - Comic version / Judge Minty version #25

    Oh Baby!

    Very very cool!

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