Mola Rob
Sr Member
I posted this over on the TPZ but thought I would throw it up for discussion here as well.
I received season one of TOS on Blu-ray for Christmas. I haven't watched some of these episodes for awhile and after watching The Menagerie I noticed a few things I either never noticed or forgot about.
Spock served with Captain Pike for 11 years, 4 months, and 5 days. The Menagerie takes place 13 years before this episode so this would mean Kirk took over from Pike about 1 1/2 years before The Menagerie took place. That is if Spock stayed with Pike until the end (I don't think Spock would be capable of leaving his Captain).
Before going in to see Pike Commodore Mendez asks Kirk if he ever met Pike and Kirk says he met him when Pike was promoted to Fleet Captain. Mendez then says "About your age, a big handsome man, vital, active." This would have made him about 21 years old when he was Captain of the Enterprise?
The survey ship SS Columbia crashed on Talos IV 18 years before the events of The Cage, 31 years before the events in The Menagerie. We can assume warp drive technology had not been invented according to comments by Lieutenant Tyler in the survivor’s encampment and Captain Pike aboard the Enterprise. Tyler mentions that the time barrier had been broken to the unreal survivors and when addressing the crew earlier Pike says "our time warp factor, 7". So it looks like we can conclude that warp drive technology was invented only thirty years or so before Captain Kirk took command of the Enterprise. This makes the events of Metamorphosis, First Contact, and Enterprise a bunch of baloney.
I received season one of TOS on Blu-ray for Christmas. I haven't watched some of these episodes for awhile and after watching The Menagerie I noticed a few things I either never noticed or forgot about.
Spock served with Captain Pike for 11 years, 4 months, and 5 days. The Menagerie takes place 13 years before this episode so this would mean Kirk took over from Pike about 1 1/2 years before The Menagerie took place. That is if Spock stayed with Pike until the end (I don't think Spock would be capable of leaving his Captain).
Before going in to see Pike Commodore Mendez asks Kirk if he ever met Pike and Kirk says he met him when Pike was promoted to Fleet Captain. Mendez then says "About your age, a big handsome man, vital, active." This would have made him about 21 years old when he was Captain of the Enterprise?
The survey ship SS Columbia crashed on Talos IV 18 years before the events of The Cage, 31 years before the events in The Menagerie. We can assume warp drive technology had not been invented according to comments by Lieutenant Tyler in the survivor’s encampment and Captain Pike aboard the Enterprise. Tyler mentions that the time barrier had been broken to the unreal survivors and when addressing the crew earlier Pike says "our time warp factor, 7". So it looks like we can conclude that warp drive technology was invented only thirty years or so before Captain Kirk took command of the Enterprise. This makes the events of Metamorphosis, First Contact, and Enterprise a bunch of baloney.
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