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    May 22, 2016, 11:18 AM - NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #1

    If you are reading this, thank-you for taking the time to do so. I am planning to begin building a model of the Devastator. I have already been pouring thrue references and threads and collecting materials from the web and from the hobby shop, but I am at a point where I want to begin building and I can't find the most crucial piece... the sub-structure that all the bits are added to. I have found many drawings and illustrations but there is no guarantee that these are accurate. I know that the SS forum prides themselves on accuracy and detail, which is why I posted here instead of general modeling. I have the utmost respect for the level of detail you guys hold yourselves to. I know that if no one is willing to throw me a ball, you might be willing to point me in the right direction. Thank you, again, for your time.

    This will be a scratch build, and I intend to "sculpt" as many greeblies as I can, myself. The only bits I will harvest from donors are the hard-to-reproduce greeblies, like the turbo lasers and shield generators and such.
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    May 22, 2016, 3:21 PM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #2

    If you're on Facebook, take a look here (scroll down to a post on April 6):
    https://www.facebook.com/nicenmodeldesigns
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    May 22, 2016, 5:02 PM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #3

    star-art said: View Post
    If you're on Facebook, take a look here (scroll down to a post on April 6):
    https://www.facebook.com/nicenmodeldesigns
    Thank you for the link. I will add his page to my subscriptions. And I found this:
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    It seems accurate enough... I am going to try to verify and I hope it is accurate. This image has every shot I need to extrapolate an accurate sub-structure. I have come across a few images that have been criticized for inaccuracy on a few other websites. There are a ton of references out there and even more conversations about the studio models and reproductions. I am trying to stick to the studio model references to avoid mistakes.
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    May 22, 2016, 7:16 PM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #4

    Tread lightly on using the CG SD as reference - not only is it inaccurate, but it's based on the TESB model, whose proportions are different than those of the smaller ANH model.
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    May 23, 2016, 10:45 AM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #5

    You should seek out Ringa... he's the expert on that ship and has made several...

    http://www.therpf.com/member.php?u=4444


    Jedi Dade
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    May 24, 2016, 8:58 AM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #6

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    May 24, 2016, 9:02 AM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #7

    I found some really nice profile pics of the ANH Devastator on one of the other modeling websites...355 views in 24 hours divided by 4 comments means that, by the law of averages, there are about 80-100 people interested in this topic so far. My father is a college math teacher, so I am going to recruit him to help me use the ANH references to design an accurate model for the armature and sub-structure. When I have something I will post my designs here to see if anyone would like to scrutinize the dimensions I know that the main body panels will be slightly wider than they look in a still photo because of the slope. I just don't know the math. Something about the hypotenuse of a right triangle, blah, blah... I hope I might have something by the beginning of next week. My original hope had been that there might be templates out there, somewhere. This is not an easy model to build. To be completely accurate it would cost hundreds of dollars in donor kits, alone. It is a much larger project than I originally thought, but I am not dissuaded from it. While I finish designing and building the frame and sub-structure over the next few weeks I will begin crossing model kits off my list and accumulating styrene and misc. sculpting materials to begin building the details. And I will post progress of my work here. I'll change the heading when I finaly post my first progress report with some pics. Thanks for looking! And thankyou to those who have already posted comments. I sent Ringa a friend request. I think I would enjoy his input. keep it coming, guys.
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    May 24, 2016, 10:04 AM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #8

    Seriously man - PM ringa... He can (and likely will) give you more info on that ship then you can digest. I've spoke with him a few time sover the years and you WILL NOT find anyone more knowledgeable on the model then him... I bet he knows more than the guys that built it at this point

    Jedi Dade
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    May 26, 2016, 10:35 AM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #9

    Jedi Dade said: View Post
    Seriously man - PM ringa... He can (and likely will) give you more info on that ship then you can digest. I've spoke with him a few time sover the years and you WILL NOT find anyone more knowledgeable on the model then him... I bet he knows more than the guys that built it at this point

    Jedi Dade
    I believe you... that is why I pm'ed him as soon as you said I should before. As I am waiting to hear from him I don't intend to sit on my thumbs. I'm just trying to stay busy on it and move forward as I can. I haven't heard back from him yet, but I hope to, soon. Thank-you for your interest and support.

    May, 23 was when I pm'ed him
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    Jun 1, 2016, 8:54 AM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #10

    I love that the original Devastator is seeing some interest again, I've been doing some more part ID work on the engine area recently and I could certainly use any help that I can get. I'll post in the parts map thread again shortly:

    http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=102130&page=4
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    Aug 13, 2016, 3:16 PM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #11

    Lots more 1977 ANH Imperial Cruiser discussion can be found here:

    http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=264265
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    Aug 13, 2016, 11:03 PM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #12

    Feel free to chip in on the parts map thread.
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    Aug 14, 2016, 2:59 AM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #13

    I've been concentrating all my effort on making patterns for this subject, leaving others to identify parts. As a result, I'm afraid I can't offer much help in that arena other than to make sure you are aware of the parts maps posted elsewhere besides this site, such as at www.StudioScaleModelers.com
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    Aug 14, 2016, 4:16 AM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #14

    star-art said: View Post
    I've been concentrating all my effort on making patterns for this subject, leaving others to identify parts. As a result, I'm afraid I can't offer much help in that arena other than to make sure you are aware of the parts maps posted elsewhere besides this site, such as at www.StudioScaleModelers.com
    Yeah but you know and had the parts to make the drawings, right ?
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    Aug 14, 2016, 10:56 AM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #15

    Certain key parts, yes, but not every detail on the ship. It seems like the majority of what's known has been published both here and at the SSM site.
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    Aug 14, 2016, 5:27 PM - Re: NEED INPUT- Star Destroyer "Devastator" #16

    star-art said: View Post
    Certain key parts, yes, but not every detail on the ship. It seems like the majority of what's known has been published both here and at the SSM site.
    Yeah tons of infos available for those who take the time to dig into the threads !

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