Build: Luke Macrobinoculars (ANH Hero)

I stand corrected! It seems that most people take it that far and paint the hood. I'm going that route as well, thinking satin black. Thanks for the feedback, all!


Now, for an update on the build. I had a productive holiday weekend, though I'm just now getting around to posting these photos. I've actually made some more progress since, and will have another update coming soon:


Tore down all of the cameras! Had to use my precision screwdriver kit to get to all the tiny screws/crevices:

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Eumig Broken Down:

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Lots of cool potential greeblies inside of the Eumig ... I think I'll use these on a custom build!

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Measured the Eumig to find center for mounting the lens plate:

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Test-fitting the lens plate ...

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Looks pretty good!

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Pried off the front plate, revealing the Eumig knob. It was cool to see the aluminum cone hiding underneath the knob, as seen in everyone's depiction of the mystery wedge ...

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Bare front plate:

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I snipped the needle from the piece to which it was oriinally mounted and just used a small piece of gaff tape to hold it in place ... splitting F4 & 5.6!

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I just sort of started laying into the Seagull in an effort to get the big knob off, and only afterwards realized that this could have been accomplished by opening up the knob, removing all of the interior components, then screwing the knob off. I did manage to remove the vinyl very cleanly, and can always close it back up if I want to:

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I also removed the Bell & Howell knob, and prepped the Seagull patterned plate by dremeling off the side tabs, and drilling two holes to allow it to sit between the B&H knob base and the red plastic piece (which I still need to paint grey before I close this thing up) I tried my best to replicate the rotation of the Seagull patterned plate in reference to the B&H cross-bar, as seen in stills ...

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After fiddling with all of the pieces from the two knobs for a good while, this is the configuration I settled upon (starting with the Seagull knob on the left, and working towards the right) which seems to be at least close to the approach others have taken here:

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Does anybody have suggestions as to the best way to mount the whole knob setup to the Eumig while allowing it to turn freely?



I also stripped the Kalimar, removing the viewer mounting bracket and the two small knobs:

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Also took advantage of the warmer weather today and painted the lens plate ... still waiting for it to dry:

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Finally, does anyone have suggestions on how to remove the small Seagull knobs? Is cutting them out the only option, or can they be pried out without damaging the housing? All feedback welcome!

More updates coming soon.
pull the seagull knobs out with your fingers then put some needle nose pliers on them and unscrew them. They should just unscrew out
 
So this is how I did mine not saying its the right way its just how I did it. Hope this helps. With the B&H part I drilled out a center hole and put a screw in it. like this
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Next drill the Eumig around here ( Pic ) with the right drill bit and tap as the screw you used. ( I used a 4-40 ) I think.
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Then just screw your B&H/seagull knob in.

Next if you don't want to cut out the inside of the Eumig ( like the pic below ) for the smaller knobs you don't have too.
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Line up where you are going to drill so it will come through on the wedge part inside of the Eumig. If you use this kind of step drill bit and drill it to the green line I marked you don't need to cut out the Eumig or even use any type of glue to hold them in place. It will be a compression fit! You can see in one of my holes how its tapered from the step drill bit. Do the same thing for the lower small knob.

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Hope this helped a little.
 
So this is how I did mine not saying its the right way its just how I did it. Hope this helps. With the B&H part I drilled out a center hole and put a screw in it. like this
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Next drill the Eumig around here ( Pic ) with the right drill bit and tap as the screw you used. ( I used a 4-40 ) I think.
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Then just screw your B&H/seagull knob in.

Next if you don't want to cut out the inside of the Eumig ( like the pic below ) for the smaller knobs you don't have too.
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Line up where you are going to drill so it will come through on the wedge part inside of the Eumig. If you use this kind of step drill bit and drill it to the green line I marked you don't need to cut out the Eumig or even use any type of glue to hold them in place. It will be a compression fit! You can see in one of my holes how its tapered from the step drill bit. Do the same thing for the lower small knob.

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Hope this helped a little.
It's looking pretty awesome to me.

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So I have a buddy that I asked if he could laser cut this part for me ( the small flat 8 holed PCB board that go's on the tip of the pins ) He said lets give it a try should be able to. Then I stated thinking I'm the only one that has been able to get this part and others need it. So if you guys want I can make a run thread later tonight if there is any interest. IMG_9659.JPG
 
pull the seagull knobs out with your fingers then put some needle nose pliers on them and unscrew them. They should just unscrew out

Yeah, gettin' back into the BUILD! Awesome pics, and yeah those knobs ought to just unscrew, although mine were a little sticky.

totally agree with that, removed tons of them that way

This did the trick, thanks all!



Then I stated thinking I'm the only one that has been able to get this part and others need it. So if you guys want I can make a run thread later tonight if there is any interest.

Well, now that you mention it ...





Looks like I need to find a solder sucker!

So if you guys want I can make a run thread later tonight if there is any interest.

This is a great idea. I may just be in for one of these, if I end up botching my circuit board!

So this is how I did mine not saying its the right way its just how I did it. Hope this helps.

Thanks for posting this method, I think I'm going to use a version of this on my build. Have to hit the hardware store!

More updates coming soon ....
 
So I have a buddy that I asked if he could laser cut this part for me ( the small flat 8 holed PCB board that go's on the tip of the pins ) He said lets give it a try should be able to. Then I stated thinking I'm the only one that has been able to get this part and others need it. So if you guys want I can make a run thread later tonight if there is any interest. View attachment 777184

Great idea I would be up for one...
 
rock on with it then, I"ll hold out and see what you come up with. no need having two people doing this :unsure


So I have a buddy that I asked if he could laser cut this part for me ( the small flat 8 holed PCB board that go's on the tip of the pins ) He said lets give it a try should be able to. Then I stated thinking I'm the only one that has been able to get this part and others need it. So if you guys want I can make a run thread later tonight if there is any interest. View attachment 777184
 
Cameron I haven't yet. Been getting a bunch of "that was discontinued" responses. Might have to start casting a bigger net.


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Well, here's what I've been able to find this week.....

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Now, after getting one of the correct female plugs, I'm not 100% sold on the male plug-in connector having the wider silver push clip???? On the original prop, it looks like the silver push clip is narrower than the metal part that clips in because you can see it in this picture......

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Any thought's???

I have found one that's 100% correct with the separate metal "can" with two clips around the female green plug. I didn't have to buy an Ibanez, either, to get it out of!!!

I also found 4 of the green female plugs with the two clips molded into them. They seem to be MUCH easier to find!

- Jim

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I've been staring at that photo going back and forth since this all started, but most of the time my eyes see it closer to the Honda plug (wider push clips) over the HRS (narrow push clips), though the width really does seem to be in between the two. BUT: If you look at the Honda (wider) clip, you'll see that the metal of the push clip is crimped upward to make the part you push, but that metal is still visible around the clip, and given the blurry nature of the macro photo, perhaps this could be the colors of that surrounding metal blending in to the crimped part making it appear to have a taller (more narrow) profile? Just a theory.

ALSO, I've seen a good amount of both types of these clips by now, and regardless of the state of them, the push clips tend to still be pretty shiny, when compared to the more golden, worn look of the push clip on the macros. Maybe if you sand down the clip, you'll get to a more golden metal that looks closer to the prop, or perhaps this is another trait of the potential third variety of this clip?

Looks like you're on to something with that one female clip. I know after having seen photos that both the Honda and HRS varieties of the male plug have multiple varieties of female connectors, and that they both have one like the one you listed in the quoted post, with the meta fully surrounding the plug. that being said, I believe if we can figure out which male connector was used, we can logically conclude that that brand of female plug was used as well.

Now .....

WHERE did you find that metal female plug, if not in an Ibanez???? Is it the Honda variety, or the HRS??????

Well, here's what I've been able to find this week.....

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Now, after getting one of the correct female plugs, I'm not 100% sold on the male plug-in connector having the wider silver push clip???? On the original prop, it looks like the silver push clip is narrower than the metal part that clips in because you can see it in this picture......

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Any thought's???

- Jim
 
Also, those two plastic female plugs with the clips molded in are intriguing too ... paint one up black, throw it on and there's not much convincing me that it's any less of a contender than the metal clip.

Well, here's what I've been able to find this week.....

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Now, after getting one of the correct female plugs, I'm not 100% sold on the male plug-in connector having the wider silver push clip???? On the original prop, it looks like the silver push clip is narrower than the metal part that clips in because you can see it in this picture......

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Any thought's???

I have found one that's 100% correct with the separate metal "can" with two clips around the female green plug. I didn't have to buy an Ibanez, either, to get it out of!!!

I also found 4 of the green female plugs with the two clips molded into them. They seem to be MUCH easier to find!

- Jim
 
ive seen the molded clip females on a couple pieces. when looking at the luke pic I can see silver where the black paint was scraped off. I'm going with the metal housing.
I'm really not sure on the wide clip. when looking at the real part and luke pic, there is some size differences. I will post pics soon


here is an unaltered pic

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see the lines on this one. the back end where the cord goes into, the distance from the two rivets and the back is to long
second, looking at the chrome push bar , the distance from the red line near the two screws the chrome tab don't match to the wide bar.
and thirdly, there is a raised bar between the back two rivets and the chrome push bar on the found piece, where is it in the luke pic? do we really have the correct part?
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hmmm, and then I just took this pic of the two boxes next to each other. the wide bar IS much closer to the screws, giving the distance from the back to the 2 rivets more distance. maybe I'm just see camera distortion ???? idk

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I think as far as the metal male connectors goes... we found a VERY good replacement for casted home made versions. Which (as mentioned before) were VERY good replicas of what we could make out from pictures... even the dimensions were close. Not trying to take anything away from those! It's just now we have a "found item" that is much closer to what was used on the original prop.

Do we need to look for a connector that was possibly only used on British equipment? I did find this oddball male connector with a crossbar that is in between the other two sizes we've found.....

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Or, that the prop makers dulled it down. It does seem like the shiny outer surface is some sort of plating. I'm about to sand one side down and see what's underneath ...
 
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