Movie "heroes" who are actually low-life scum. Why do we watch them?
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Axlotl
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I consider that self-defense. Greedo was going to kill him.
Snikt
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I disagree with that. If I remember correctly, his friend got rich off of his contributions to the company. I didnt see him as a bad guy, yes he did bad things, the worst threatening to poison the kid, but he was always remorseful. None of the nerds here have ever wanted to switch the roles and be the one that is powerful, in charge, respected, and feared? Cmon. Not only that, but he made something that nobody else had done. Yes, of course, dealing drugs, especially meth, is bad. Killing people is bad. But thats why its entertainment. I was rooting for WW the entire time, I knew how it was going to end, but I was still bummed when it did. Nobody cheered in the early episodes when he made that guys car explode after he was a jerk at the car wash? When he had his ace up his sleeve and threw that bomb at Tucos office? When he blew up Gus Fring? Glorious. While meth is bad, if the people wanted it, they would have got it regardless of if it was Walters or not. I have no sympathy for drug users at all. Nobody has a gun to your head making you do it. Its a choice, and a bad one. Notice how Walt never sampled any of his product? Did Jesse?
And oh my god I hated Walt Jr, every time they put him on screen I groaned. I think he was second to skylar on the annoying scale. :lol
I was sad when King Kong and Jaws died in their respective movies when I was a kid.
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Well he's also a smuggler whose professional ethics have been drawn into question on several occasions. Not to mention the fact that, in ESB, he's overtly hitting on Leia which, at the time, was still the girl Luke had a crush on.
So there.
Well, aslo, in the case of breaking bad, it helped that it was tremendously acted and well written, and perfectly executed. It was high quality entertainment !
I mean, just look at this scene, it was just phenomenal :
And I've not seen the Sopranos, but my understanding is that is is a very well made series as well. So IMO, it's not only a question a liking bad guys, it's also how it's presented to us.
And maybe because one in a while, it's refreshing to follow a bad guy, and not another "hero"... Must be a reason why most main characters today have usually a darker edge somewhere, flaws...
I mean, just look at this scene, it was just phenomenal :
And maybe because one in a while, it's refreshing to follow a bad guy, and not another "hero"... Must be a reason why most main characters today have usually a darker edge somewhere, flaws...
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Laspector
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After the end of that episode, what happened? The beginning of the next one they are all hiding out at Hank's house, but I never really caught why. Somehow Walt made out that there were threats on Hank or something? Seems like it skipped a little, I didn't really catch what happened.
Mr Mold Maker
Master Member
I say it's escape-ism. We all live "boring" lives, watching these low-life scum do their thing is a way to escape all this for a moment. Whether it be playing cowboys and aliens 
watching a movie/tv show or play a video game.
Like @JLeezy23 said, we are messed up.
"It is in your nature to destroy yourselves"
Correction, Han was the only one who shot
watching a movie/tv show or play a video game.Like @JLeezy23 said, we are messed up.
"It is in your nature to destroy yourselves"
Correction, Han was the only one who shot
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cayman shen
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Because watching a movie about perfectly virtuous, upstanding, unflawed protagonists would be about as interesting as playing dominoes with your grandmother's Bible study group?
Rupert_Angier
Sr Member
I can honestly say that if someone did that to my Boston, I'd go on a rampage of equal proportion to John Wick's.
Yes, exactly..like Rooster Cogburn said ( in the Original Wayne movie) "Ya' can't serve papers on a Rat sister, ya' gotta' kill him, or let him be " ! !
Macbeth, Richard III, Iago... Sometimes it's fun to watch a villain's rise and fall.
Toadmeister
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Yup, Han hitting on Luke's sister definitely makes Han the Villian. Luke's an incestuous hero !
J/k
Toadmeister
Sr Member
LOL, that was the norm back in my day.
Today kids are discouraged from such behavior yet kids are more violent than ever (school shootings being an example).
Coincidence?
Chad Stahelski has already said John is not a good guy and don’t expect this to end well for him
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