Lost in Space (Netflix series)

Yeah, the lack of any kind of projectile or energy weapons was a big deal. Not really a deal breaker, but come on, they'd of had weapons.

They had weapons, you can see a crewman on the Resolute with a sidearm. And they had the ability to fabricate weapons, you just needed the proper clearance to do so. They didn’t venture out into space with no means of protection.
 
They had weapons, you can see a crewman on the Resolute with a sidearm. And they had the ability to fabricate weapons, you just needed the proper clearance to do so. They didn’t venture out into space with no means of protection.

And you see Jim Robinson with a sidearm when in the military too. I'm not talking about the crewmen on the resolute. I'm not saying you never see a weapon on the show. I'm talking about the colonists.
 
The Jupiter's had no weapons.

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And you see Jim Robinson with a sidearm when in the military too. I'm not talking about the crewmen on the resolute. I'm not saying you never see a weapon on the show. I'm talking about the colonists.

You’re correct, I don’t recall seeing any of the stranded colonists with firearms. And by the panic from attacking monsters, none of them did.
 
I'm still trying to decide if it's for drama to make the native animals more of a problem or if it's Hollywood's typical anti-gun bias politics creeping in. The mother's "I don't like guns in the house" speech is just downright ignorant. Especially when you're on a completely untamed planet.

On the American frontier young children were regularly instructed on how to use and carry guns. They would fend off predators 2 and 4 legged and tend the home while the father was away conducting business.

Good luck fending them off with pointy sticks....:unsure
 
I'm still trying to decide if it's for drama to make the native animals more of a problem or if it's Hollywood's typical anti-gun bias politics creeping in. The mother's "I don't like guns in the house" speech is just downright ignorant. Especially when you're on a completely untamed planet.On the American frontier young children were regularly instructed on how to use and carry guns. They would fend off predators 2 and 4 legged and tend the home while the father was away conducting business.Good luck fending them off with pointy sticks....:unsure
I'm only a couple eps in and just saw he couldn't print one so far. One of the things I'm giving the show a pass on is letting the kids do dangerous things.This was of course something that happened on the old show and yes exactly.. pioneer days youth needed to be capable of certain things on their own. Besides you need laser pistols and rifles at some point, it's effing Lost in Space! So it better not be some kind of PC-ism BS prevailing. Being without a weapon in a dangerous place is of course suicide. They are on the very edge of human existence for crying out loud.At least find a damn compromise if they must.
 
I am apparently missing something... How are they heading into the unknown, etc.? They were on their way to Alpha Centauri, the 24th mission to head their, if I interpret the patches right. West has been back and forth several times, and there are enough people already there for him to have been able to see that they're bringing the problems of Earth that they're trying to get away from with them.

I see the lack of weapons as a combination of: They're on their way to a known and tamed world; the head of the colony is a controlling jerk; and, most specifically, the J2 might have stricter safeguards due to Maureen's personal dislike of firearms.

None of them were expecting to suddenly be the first and only humans on a hostile, wild planet with big growly things out in the trees.
 
You pack a weapon everywhere you go. Then you have the upper hand in any hostile situation. Nothing can take advantage of you without YOU having a say in you or your family/friends fate. There is no such thing as TAME, anywhere. Maureen needed slapped silly by her husband who was as SP operator.


I am apparently missing something... How are they heading into the unknown, etc.? They were on their way to Alpha Centauri, the 24th mission to head their, if I interpret the patches right. West has been back and forth several times, and there are enough people already there for him to have been able to see that they're bringing the problems of Earth that they're trying to get away from with them.

I see the lack of weapons as a combination of: They're on their way to a known and tamed world; the head of the colony is a controlling jerk; and, most specifically, the J2 might have stricter safeguards due to Maureen's personal dislike of firearms.

None of them were expecting to suddenly be the first and only humans on a hostile, wild planet with big growly things out in the trees.
 
Neutral gun thang type statement: I think we may be jumping a bit to conclusions from just a few very brief plot moments with regards to weapons. The original series had laser pistols and rifles, the movie had at least one laser rifle and the robot was armed to the teeth - and under the guidance of Will when it was toasting spiders. We are in a bit of a political moment in the US regarding firearms, and of course polarized as can be. But the only incident so far in the new show where guns would have been rather handy dandy was when the camp had a visit from some large four legged hungry things. I agree - pioneers on a new world should have been running their 3D printers ragged puking out AR-15's.

At that moment, though, the plot was more aimed at a robot moment, since there's backstory there that they were trying to develop. And the robot is just as psycho as Smith - who wouldn't be after all of the various dismemberments, friendships coming and going, instructions to go jump off - and then not? Of course, who are it's real friends? (With weaponry like it has along with a certain extra level of dexterity, you would definitely want it to be yer bestest buddy.) The B9 robot had wildly flipping loyalties in the original. And it was also guilty of almost destroying the J2. So there are parallels there too.
 
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I think the whole lack of a powerful "weapon" thing is just a plot device to set up "Danger Will Robinson" moments when general lazer/gun availability would solve the issue in seconds.
If any thing watching this (just finished Episode Six) just shows how inept,contrived and stupid the plotting is.The "pass the pistol" game was just annoying,particularly when huge huge crocodile/ bear monsters start crawling out of the woods to eat people and then ,in the next episode, the same people think wandering off to take a dip in the river is a good idea, without rearming themelves ?????!!!!!!!!
I am really struggling with this given that the colonists were given a battery of aptitude tests to pass before they were allowed to leave the Earth,I guess IQs must have dropped through the floor to judge by their behaviours or they ALL brided their way on to the ship.
And just about EVERYTHING about the science they attempt to pass of as being credible is so ill concieved or wrong, deliberately so just to set up the next crisis, I could weep. I don't mind Sci fi or fantasy that does daft things with the laws of physics and nature to make an entertaining show but here its so poorly done I end up just shaking my head in disbelief.
I've got to be honest there is hardly a character I care if they live or die, unfortunately due to the predictability of the scripting I guess they all make it to the end (including the chicken?) . The kids all get on my nerves, West is a total dick, the dad is totally dickless and the mother , well I've got to say if I was given the choice of living with her on another planet or staying to die on a doomed Earth, I might just take the Earth option. Smith just as hugely annoying as the rest of them. but somehow shes the most belivable character.
If it wasn't for the excellent VFX and some good moments I doubt I would slog this out until the end, but having read some of the posts here it looks like this is a PREQUEL (!!!!!) anyway, so it was always going to stink as much as the farting gas used to fuel the space ships ( which , unbelievably they actual got right about as a possible rocket fuel for the future if they mix it with liquid oxygen, though I doubt your average space eel would want to chow down on it,but some very rare bacteria might).
 
I am apparently missing something... How are they heading into the unknown, etc.? They were on their way to Alpha Centauri, the 24th mission to head their, if I interpret the patches right. West has been back and forth several times, and there are enough people already there for him to have been able to see that they're bringing the problems of Earth that they're trying to get away from with them.

I see the lack of weapons as a combination of: They're on their way to a known and tamed world; the head of the colony is a controlling jerk; and, most specifically, the J2 might have stricter safeguards due to Maureen's personal dislike of firearms.

None of them were expecting to suddenly be the first and only humans on a hostile, wild planet with big growly things out in the trees.

That's a very good point, and I think it deserves discussion. While the destination might be tamed, known and conquered, there is a journey between civilized places that is decidedly uncivilized, untamed, and has the potential for danger and the need for self defense.

People do become complacent, and people do tend to put thier safety in the hands of others when they absolutely should not. I suppose if the show was going to treat the journey as basically like a passenger plane through space, direct from earth to this new colony, no lay overs, then I could buy them not needing weapons. But it didn't do that. It treated the journey as something that could be dangerous. People needed and got training, and they needed to pass standards, they had lots of supplies for survival in harsh situations, etc.

And the show wasted a lot of time with numerous vehicular issues and personal emergencies instead of taking the time to tell us why the resolute was attacked to begin with, and why the alien was wiping out people wholesale who were no threat. Though, I did do some scanning through the last 3 episodes, so I may have missed that, but I don't think I did.
 
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It treated the journey as something that could be dangerous. People needed and got training, and they needed to pass standards, they had lots of supplies for survival in harsh situations, etc.

I am only halfway through, but I’ve gotten the distinct impression that the training and testing is less for the journey, and more to make sure that every member of the “new world” is capable of positively contributing to society.

I’m also going out on a limb and guessing that weapons may not even have been allowed on the journey, save for specific passengers...hence the fact that they couldn’t print one. If weapins were allowed there would be no reason to not let them be printed.

I’ve viewed the lack of weaponry as two things:
1. It is in fact a known and safe journey, one that’s been made AT LEAST 23 other times (who knows how many trips were made before they started sending colony ships), so the need to arm everyone is minimal.
2. There were security personnel on the main ship who’s job it was to protect the passengers. I feel that these security guys probably were ordered to stay on the ship to fight the threat, which is why none of them ended up planetside.
 
Exactly. I don’t think enemy alien robots are commonplace. The fact they are selective about who gets to go and that they had no idea what to do with Smith at first points to this. Space is big and empty, only special perfect people get to go— I’m sure the Resolute had security officers with weapons, and the colony world has something similar. But a space mission full of specialists is not something you send armed people on. There’s no arms locker on the space shuttle.

That said, once you crash land on a hostile planet and you know there are local animals that can ruin your life— yeah, hack that printer and start printing out some firepower.

I went in expecting not much, and ended up really liking it. The robot looks a little too clunky dude in a suit when it;s not CG, Maureen is a bit of a sociopath— but the family drama and kids in peril is a great way to update the original concept.

I too got an Earth 2 feel from it, and I loved that show. Part of me wants them just living on this planet and dealing with that. It’d be like a frontier pioneer story— just scifi. They could even keep all the local neighbors. It’s a fun set up— but I also get why they want to push for the return to the core concept. It’s funny how the movie remake was more “Lost in Time” and this first season was more “Lost on a Planet.”

And I love this version of Smith. I wouldn’t have minded her being an actual evil scientist, but she’s got the amipulation and self-preservation, and hooks into Will thing down pat.

Speaking of Will, it was fun to see Bill Mumy have a little cameo.

Also, I love this version of Don West. Yes, he’s comic relief, but I see him as a very Han Solo type and think he will evolve. Overall, the cast is great— epescially the kids. It’s REALLY hard to find decent child actors, and these three are all really good.

And if you didn’t feel a little sad when Robot was left in the cave you have no soul.
 
I loved it,...best TV Sci-Fi I've seen in a long time....the last couple of episodes let it down a tad though.....not much.....but really.....it was dong exceptionally well until John & Don and the wreckage bit

J
 
If anyone is interested. Will's dark orange camera is a Ricoh WG-M1. Probably one of the few things besides Oreo's you can buy that was used on-screen.
 
West: “Cuz I’m a badass, Princess!!”
Judy: “You’re a badass princess.”
West: “Wha? No. No. No, there’s a comma.”

I laughed pretty hard at that exchange.

I’m liking West’s character more and more. SethS mentioned a Han Solo vibe from him, and I’m getting that same vibe. Heck, the dude’s even a smuggler!!
 
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Finished tonight. I enjoyed it quite a bit. I did find it a bit slow at times, but I’ve also got a lot on my mind so it was taking me nearly 90 minutes to finish each episode with all the pausing and dealing with other stuff I was doing.

I really liked the robot, and I’m wondering how they’ll bring him back for season 2.

I only had two issues with the season:
1. I found it hard to believe that the Resolute had no ships it could send down to search. EVERY vessel on it was a Jupiter, and EVERY one of them crashed on the planet? I feel there’d have been a few spare Jupiters just in case they needed them, or some other type of transport ship they could have launched. Even a quick mention of “the spare Jupiter’s were destroyed in the attack” would have sufficed.
2. I feel there’s no way the Robinsons would have trusted Smith, or whatever her name was. She was obviously a lying, evil, villain...so the Robinsons are either TERRIBLE judges of character, or they haven’t just killed her for the sole reason of giving the writers a way to create conflict.

There were here a few other nit picky things, but nothing really worth mentioning. Overall, though, I hope it gets picked up for future seasons.
 
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