Solo... one of the only people on this entire board who is getting an Xbox...
Good for you.
:rolleyes
Read closer next time, dude. The fact that I'm not frothing at the mouth and calling for the streets of Redmond to run red with the blood of MS executives doesn't mean I'm going out and buying one. I'm perfectly happy with my 360,
as I said. I'll wait and see which console I like better if and when I'm ready to upgrade,
as I said. It may be that MS' policies change by the time I'm ready to buy. It may be that Sony's change. It may be that the MS experience overall will be more preferable to me, or the Sony one will. I won't know until I see them, and I'm not about to say "DEATH TO MICROSOFT!!!" based on what I've heard.
This was a PR DISASTER the likes of which this industry has NEVER seen.
It doesn't matter if it was the "tin foil hat" people that started it...
It's done.
They will change their tune or be the biggest flop in MS history.
Yeah, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that you're probably going to be proven wrong with that, at least to the degree you suggest. The XB1 won't bankrupt MS. The XB1 will not be the end of MS' console efforts, except insofar as they continue to move away from a platform primarily oriented around gaming and towards a platform oriented around media-center functions.
Seriously, man, if Windows ME and Vista couldn't kill 'em, I don't think anything can.
Even if they COULD have and DID explain it like you did in one of your various diatribes breaking it all down... EVEN THEN... when you have to preach that much... it kinda sounds like you are selling snake oil... (oooh bad anology)
When you have to explain things in that great of detail... to justify for radical changes... it don't sit well with the common folk.
I'm not saying it does, actually. I think they've moved a bit too far in their approach. All I'm saying is that the writing's on the wall and that this is the direction the industry as a whole will shift over the next 10-20 years. I think MS may have jumped the gun on that, and certainly screwed up bigtime with their PR, but I think the general trend is shifting in the direction MS is moving.
No matter the percentage of high speed internet coverage... people are people... it's the WAL-MART crowd that support these systems en masse... not the starbucks jet setters...
ie: if there aint enough buyers... who cares how great the system is cause software devs go bye bye without $$$...
There will be "enough" buyers to keep the console afloat. This will not be the Virtual Boy of the 21st century. This won't even be the Dreamcast or Turbographx 16. I get that you don't like this approach MS has taken. I'm saying there aren't enough of you to KILL the console or KILL MS. Sony will win this round, most likely, unless MS adjusts, but even "losing" won't be a loss in the sense of an abject failure of a console launch. It's not gonna happen. The brand is too strong. There will be initial growing pains, but it'll work itself out over time.
Bad analogy this thread is about the Xbox One.
Disney and Lucas are not attempting to peek into any living rooms and are not requiring a 24/7 internet connection to check in for there personal permission to view there digital media.
If the industry forces total download content only, I can without difficulty live without it.
Picks up a Book, starts reading no permission required.
I detest the changes Lucas made.
Al
Um...ok. The point I was making was about acting as an informed consumer -- kinda like you saying you'll just pick up a book and read or go buy a PS4. The analogy wasn't to say that the XboxOne is the same as the Star Wars blu-rays. It was to say that my decision not to buy them because I object to certain things about the product is the same as you not buying an XboxOne because you object to certain things about that product. That's the analogy. So, as I said, choose to buy or not buy whatever you want, man. As long as you're doing so in an informed way, I support your choice. Just don't think that your purchasing decision is going to, like, strike a blow for freedom or whatever, any more than my purchasing decision will for the OOT.
Well, one thing that did come out of the regional releases is that it's not being released in Poland. "Well, what of it?" you ask. Turns out that one of the big games that was shown off during the MS conference was The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt. Which is developed by CD Projekt RED...
Which is based in Poland.
The actual developers of one of their top games won't get to play it themselves, on the console that used that very game as an advertisement. That's just wrong.
Sure, they can probably play it on a dev kit with the regional and online restrictions turned off, but that's not the same as being able to take it home and play it. Good thing it's not an exclusive, eh? I imagine the staff will all go home and play it on their PS4.
I think it's stupid, yeah, but I don't think it's, like,
morally wrong. It's another point of bad press for MS in this saga which has, let's be clear, been FULL of bad press and apparently sees no end in site thanks to Don Mattrick. Seriously, who the hell is giving this clown a mic? Every time I see a headline from him it might as well read "Mattrick tells customers 'Suck it, bitches.'" They need to muzzle this guy and put someone else out in front.
I think MS isn't doing itself any favors right now with its PR, and I suspect they'll reevaluate SOME of their policies down the road. On the other hand, I would imagine that the guys at CD Projekt Red will be able to play the game on the systems on which they developed it, or they may just be sick of looking at it and go play Mario Kart 64 instead. :lol Really, though, I'd imagine they'll be happy to see their game sold. Period. They'll think MS' move is stupid, but they're running a business so, another console playing their game is all to the good, even if that console is unavailable in their native country.
Your missing my point. Id get this if there wasnt a perfectly different alternative available. With more or less the same games. I doubt it would be a big sacrifice to make for anyone. And im confident that it might happen. I know not everyone is not going to buy. But if ms do back down. All us who stood our ground will be to thank. And all of us that dont... wont.
Your opinion of the oot is completley different. Im talking about something where the majority of the world that will be buying will agree with me. Its hardly only a personal choice. Its an insult. Its abusing their power. And thank god... its backfiring.
VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!
Or something.
I'm sorry, I just don't see this as some valiant fight against evil oppressive overlords. It's a consumer decision. You decide for yourself and that's that. If they change their policies because of it, groovy. If not, whatever. Who cares?
And yeah, sorry to break it to you, but your decision is EXACTLY like my decision re: the OOT. It's an individual consumer decision. Period. Sure, you get enough consumers making that decision, and you may see MS modify its policies or "clarify its position" (read: modify its policies), but you're not part of some rebellion against the Empire.
And "abuse of power"? *****, man, get a grip. MS isn't a government. They're a business. They made a business decision. It appears to be kind of a boneheaded one, or at least its implementation is thus far. We'll see how it shakes out. But this isn't an "abuse of power." And "an insult"? Really? I mean, yeah, Mattrick's been a ******* by telling customers that he basically doesn't care, but beyond that, how is the policy an insult to you? If you're taking it that way, then I think you assume a far more personal and important relationship with MS than you actually have. And as for the "majority of THE ENTIRE WOOOOOOOOOOOORLD" agreeing with you.....bully for you. I'm sure mum's proud. Personally, I don't really care all that much because I only make decisions for myself. If MS wants to change its policies, super. I'd be happy. If they don't, eh, don't really care. I'll just go without an XboxOne if I find the console lacking. I'm not making a decision yet because, well, I don't actually NEED to make a decision.
Where on earth was the relevance in that situation. Your answer was in regard to something being too expensive for the average joe. But Ferraris cost more to make. Yes you do target a market. But theres a difference. Ms chose a market and spent money in putting restrictions in place that reduced that market. They are 2 things far from the same. Is not that they didnt make the effort to increase their market. Its that they made the indirect effort to reduce it. And they counted on the fanboys to cough up just cos their say so. Do ferrari refuse to sell to anyone who wont only use ferrari garages? Does the car break down if you dont have their reccomended tyres? Does it stop working if they wirelessly check if you are driving their car in an unnapproved way? Can you not borrow or sell your ferrari to whoever you want? Dont make me laugh. None of what you said is news to me. Its standard that if xbox make money doing it sony will want in. But everyone who pays for is will be to blame. If ms didnt get away with it you really think sony would try it anytime soon?
Im bashing them for taking us for granted.
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You're missing the point. The point is that no company is obligated to -- nor attempting to -- sell to EVERYONE. So, yeah, MS is delaying release (or not releasing at all) in certain countries. Do I think that's kind of a dumb decision? Yeah, but whatever. I'm not pissed at MS for it. I'm not sitting around ranting about how they've clearly violated Galactic Law and the Moral Dictates of Heaven & Earth or whatever. They made a business decision. Maybe a bad one -- sure seems that way so far -- but there may be other considerations like implementing the console's features to comply with this or that country's specific laws that we don't know about. Who knows? More to the point, who cares? Don't like the console? Great. Don't buy it. But this isn't some moral crusade for Great Justice Against the Microsoft Regime or whatever.
It's just a bloody gaming console.
