Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm (after 2021)?
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Can you link that quote, googled it and couldn't find it? Is that something he said on Twitter?
Can you link that quote, googled it and couldn't find it? Is that something he said on Twitter?
Paul Andrew
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I dunno man. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
I find this rationale bizarre. In the absence of an official report you assume that radio silence bolsters your argument. What will it take? A personalized memo from her desk stating that she's busy at work?
I dunno man. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Mr Webber
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He's basically saying that he wants to stir strong emotions in viewers. Normally I would say that it's disengenous to pull up a quote from a ten year old interview, but it does seem to be pertinent to TLJ. I thought that Brick and Looper were both pretty strong movies (haven't seen Bothers Bloom), but he was the wrong pick for Star Wars, as were Lord & Miller and Trevorrow. Which comes back to Kennedy...
Edit: I understand most of the issues with TLJ, even if I don't necessarily agree with all of them, but I'm genuinely mystified with the hatred of the milking scene. A man's gotta drink!
He's basically saying that he wants to stir strong emotions in viewers. Normally I would say that it's disengenous to pull up a quote from a ten year old interview, but it does seem to be pertinent to TLJ. I thought that Brick and Looper were both pretty strong movies (haven't seen Bothers Bloom), but he was the wrong pick for Star Wars, as were Lord & Miller and Trevorrow. Which comes back to Kennedy...
Edit: I understand most of the issues with TLJ, even if I don't necessarily agree with all of them, but I'm genuinely mystified with the hatred of the milking scene. A man's gotta drink!
Paul Andrew
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I think that clip speaks to his desire to make something more than a Hollywood factory issue summer blockbuster, rather than something that's fine, good even, but utterly forgettable in 3-5 years. That's an artistic desire I can respect, even if I don't always like the outcome. Brick, for example, didn't click with me.
I think that clip speaks to his desire to make something more than a Hollywood factory issue summer blockbuster, rather than something that's fine, good even, but utterly forgettable in 3-5 years. That's an artistic desire I can respect, even if I don't always like the outcome. Brick, for example, didn't click with me.
Mr Webber
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I think his version of strong emotions in viewers is division. You only have to look at his continual, unprecedented performances on Twitter to see that`s his shtick. Yes ,he was totally the wrong pick for a Star Wars movie, without Bruce Willis I doubt Looper would have raised a blip on the radar. Your right about using an old video of him generally being disingenuous but when his latest effort underlines those comments in spades then it is more than appropriate.
On the milking scene, was it really necessary or did it add anything to the story apart from an eternity of derision? I was unfortunate enough to see the movie twice and on neither occasion was it at all well received by the audience. Comedy is obviously not his thing, as displayed many times in TLJ.
I think his version of strong emotions in viewers is division. You only have to look at his continual, unprecedented performances on Twitter to see that`s his shtick. Yes ,he was totally the wrong pick for a Star Wars movie, without Bruce Willis I doubt Looper would have raised a blip on the radar. Your right about using an old video of him generally being disingenuous but when his latest effort underlines those comments in spades then it is more than appropriate.
On the milking scene, was it really necessary or did it add anything to the story apart from an eternity of derision? I was unfortunate enough to see the movie twice and on neither occasion was it at all well received by the audience. Comedy is obviously not his thing, as displayed many times in TLJ.
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Joek3rr
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The one element you are missing is the fact that all life is sacred. Even if that person is the most evil person in the galaxy. They are still a living breathing person. In the real world he have the concept of innocent until proven guilty. The ability to take a person's life should not be taken lightly. Mace Windu is struggling with a moral conundrum.
The one element you are missing is the fact that all life is sacred. Even if that person is the most evil person in the galaxy. They are still a living breathing person. In the real world he have the concept of innocent until proven guilty. The ability to take a person's life should not be taken lightly. Mace Windu is struggling with a moral conundrum.
Joek3rr
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Like the Marvel movies. Great fun. But nothing we are going to be debating in the next 10 years. Rian made the movie exactly the way he wanted. And he got the results that he wanted. We are debating the dang thing, still.
Like the Marvel movies. Great fun. But nothing we are going to be debating in the next 10 years. Rian made the movie exactly the way he wanted. And he got the results that he wanted. We are debating the dang thing, still.
Joek3rr
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I've seen TLJ 4 times now. At first I thought the milking scene was done for laughs. But the way he drinks the milk and it runs down his beard. And Rey's reaction. It's gross, it's meant to be gross, Luke's trying to get rid of her. So he's purposefully trying to gross her out. Luke's really cranky. He's talked himself into believing that he's doing the right thing. Then out of the blue this girl with his dad's lightsaber shows up. And I think he knows that she's there to replace him, to do what he wouldn't. And that he's waisted his time.
I've seen TLJ 4 times now. At first I thought the milking scene was done for laughs. But the way he drinks the milk and it runs down his beard. And Rey's reaction. It's gross, it's meant to be gross, Luke's trying to get rid of her. So he's purposefully trying to gross her out. Luke's really cranky. He's talked himself into believing that he's doing the right thing. Then out of the blue this girl with his dad's lightsaber shows up. And I think he knows that she's there to replace him, to do what he wouldn't. And that he's waisted his time.
LordHorusNL
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4 Times?
You Sir are a braver man than me:lol
4 Times?
You Sir are a braver man than me:lol
Bigdaddy
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Mace didn't struggle with his decision after Palpatine attacked with lightning, he made the choice (correctly) that Palpatine was too dangerous. Anakin was the one struggling, not with the morality of killing an unarmed Sith (he was fine with killing Dooku on his knees with no hands) but with his own selfish desire to gain the power Palpatine promised him.
Mace didn't struggle with his decision after Palpatine attacked with lightning, he made the choice (correctly) that Palpatine was too dangerous. Anakin was the one struggling, not with the morality of killing an unarmed Sith (he was fine with killing Dooku on his knees with no hands) but with his own selfish desire to gain the power Palpatine promised him.
Joek3rr
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:lol thanks. While it's not favorite Star Wars or movie. It's not the worst either. I really don't think it's as bad as people think it is.
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https://youtu.be/q0r4jNhG9Z4
4:03 4:04 mark, that's a face of man whos not sure of the action he's just committed to.
:lol thanks. While it's not favorite Star Wars or movie. It's not the worst either. I really don't think it's as bad as people think it is.
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https://youtu.be/q0r4jNhG9Z4
4:03 4:04 mark, that's a face of man whos not sure of the action he's just committed to.
Bigdaddy
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It's pretty subjective to go by expression alone, the entire scene with dialogue has to be considered to get the context.
Perhaps to you, I see the look of determination from a man who knows what must be done, even if he doesn't want to.
It's pretty subjective to go by expression alone, the entire scene with dialogue has to be considered to get the context.
JPH
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Can you imagine if they had hyperspace missiles in ANH? Just launch a few to come out of hyperspace in the reactor. It broke Star Wars. Rotj, hyperspace missiles into second death star, shields actually protect.
Still debating Mace n Palpatine, but those who agree Mace should have killed him are proved right 10 seconds after, when Palpatine kills him. Debating something when the conclusions/motives/intentions/results were spelled out, a few seconds later...seriously? "Good" doesnt mean "defenseless" or "gullible".
Can you imagine if they had hyperspace missiles in ANH? Just launch a few to come out of hyperspace in the reactor. It broke Star Wars. Rotj, hyperspace missiles into second death star, shields actually protect.
Still debating Mace n Palpatine, but those who agree Mace should have killed him are proved right 10 seconds after, when Palpatine kills him. Debating something when the conclusions/motives/intentions/results were spelled out, a few seconds later...seriously? "Good" doesnt mean "defenseless" or "gullible".
Joek3rr
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"Even if he doesn't want to" this is exactly what I've been saying. To kill Palpatine is not necessarily the right thing to do. A Jedi doesn't want to kill anyone. I would not like to be in Mace's shoes and have to make a decision like that.
"Even if he doesn't want to" this is exactly what I've been saying. To kill Palpatine is not necessarily the right thing to do. A Jedi doesn't want to kill anyone. I would not like to be in Mace's shoes and have to make a decision like that.
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