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    Sep 3, 2017, 11:15 PM - NEW SW Prop pics! #1

    Well-- not NEW new... but a few things some people might find helpful and/or interesting.

    First, Adywan's ESB revisited came out. I took some screengrabs of his restored image on a couple of our favorite shots:





    As far as ON SCREEN props go-- I think I'm 100% in the screw camp now.

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    And next-- new scans from the Chronicles book. The book images themselves aren't the greatest, but I think these are big enough for detail observation...

    Lightsabers:





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    ...and the DL-44 shots...




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    Sep 3, 2017, 11:35 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #2

    Seth you are the man! I too jumped right away at seeing the black clamp screw. Clear as day now, in also sold that those are black Phillips head screws on those grips.


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    Sep 3, 2017, 11:48 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #3

    I think it's a black screw on the clamp band as well-- prob the same as the grips. But I still see how it could be corrosion too. But I'm keeping the black screw on mine.

    The speeder shot-- I'm trying to tell if there's now clamp screw on that one, or if it is just hidden.

    But yeah-- no way it's rivets with any on-screen prop.
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    Sep 3, 2017, 11:50 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #4

    Thanks Seth! This will help the saber community greatly!

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    Sep 4, 2017, 12:42 AM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #5

    Is the red button missing from the button knob, or is it just in shadow?
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    Sep 4, 2017, 8:36 AM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #6

    SethS said: View Post
    Is the red button missing from the button knob, or is it just in shadow?
    Damn Seth why did you have to say that... now you got the placebo effect going on with me.

    I never thought of it missing until you mentioned it and it sure does look like it could be doesn't it?
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    Sep 4, 2017, 12:28 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #7



    Here's the one on-screen shot with silver-looking fasteners.

    Call me crazy but this looks either like the black screws are half worn to silver, or we're just seeing holes in the grips to the base metal. Hard to say. Can't rule rivets out entirely-- but logically speaking, prop dudes work fast. Jamming in some screws is a hell of a lot faster than drilling and popping in rivets.

    There's promo pics that look like rivets. And I'm pretty sure this is what Shane Johnson was using when he made the tech journal-- which to me, is what cemented rivets into acceptance.
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    Sep 4, 2017, 1:05 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #8

    If anyone wants to grab their own stills, the shots are (in order of my posting) The R2 bumping into Luke shot on Bespin, Luke crawling out of the crashed speeder, the Wampa cave, and when he first hits the ground when the Wampa attacks Luke the first time.
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    Sep 4, 2017, 2:32 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #9

    Good lookin' out, Seth!
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    Sep 4, 2017, 2:54 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #10

    @SethS Thank you for posting.
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    Sep 4, 2017, 4:01 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #11

    Seth do u have a large picture of the wampa cave shot? I would like to have it framed. Hoping to get a nice 5 x 7 ish size


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    Sep 4, 2017, 4:04 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #12

    Just the one I posted-- If you want a specific frame, let me know and I'll do my best to grab it.
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    Sep 4, 2017, 8:19 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #13



    I cropped it Seth, 1628 x 738 it should work fine for me! Thanks, I'm gonna print and frame it. I have a blurry one in my display case I was never happy with

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    Sep 4, 2017, 8:32 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #14

    here you go..

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    Sep 4, 2017, 9:10 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #15

    I still say at least two of those Wampa cave grips are misshapen. the vertical fin is half the height too..

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    Also, thank GOD we have lots of screw proof now, Seth, you're wonderful
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    Sep 4, 2017, 9:30 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #16

    Seth thanks so much!


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    Sep 4, 2017, 9:32 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #17

    thd9791 said: View Post
    I still say at least two of those Wampa cave grips are misshapen. the vertical fin is half the height too..

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    Also, thank GOD we have lots of screw proof now, Seth, you're wonderful
    The grip to the left of the 2 rivets. When studying for my dagobah saber, I always thought the tip of the grip was in the snow.

    Now you can clearly see on the opposite side there is a "short stubby" grip that matches the grip on the left of the rivets....

    What you think tom? These suckers are casts..? Shrunk maybe? Wrapped?
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    Sep 4, 2017, 9:37 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #18

    halliwax said: View Post
    The grip to the left of the 2 rivets. When studying for my dagobah saber, I always thought the tip of the grip was in the snow.

    Now you can clearly see on the opposite side there is a "short stubby" grip that matches the grip on the left of the rivets....

    What you think tom? These suckers are casts..? Shrunk maybe? Wrapped?
    Gino said the ends can look weird because of the way they sloppily cut them.

    Seeing these pictures, you're right, the entire grip is shrunken. Maybe they were bad casts? (running our of T strip: cut one perfect one and make a mold)

    Or they were so used, beat up and altered on set they ended up this way? Can't imagine that. But this WAS a fighting stunt. They used a short blade in the snow to wiggle it.
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    Sep 5, 2017, 8:21 AM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #19

    thd9791 said: View Post
    Gino said the ends can look weird because of the way they sloppily cut them.

    Seeing these pictures, you're right, the entire grip is shrunken. Maybe they were bad casts? (running our of T strip: cut one perfect one and make a mold)

    Or they were so used, beat up and altered on set they ended up this way? Can't imagine that. But this WAS a fighting stunt. They used a short blade in the snow to wiggle it.
    I'm also wondering if heat has anything to do with it.

    Was it stored in the hot sun? Granted this was shot on cold locations, but when it was made where was it stored?

    Did they have to use heat to remove the grips and re glue them once they stared falling off due to the cold?
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    Sep 5, 2017, 6:20 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #20

    Why would they remove them? Definitely misshapen though!
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    Sep 5, 2017, 6:31 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #21

    Will these end the debate I've screws vs rivets?

    ive been a rivet person myself. But dang, those look a lot like painted black or oxidized screws.
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    Sep 5, 2017, 10:08 PM - NEW SW Prop pics! #22

    SethS said: View Post
    Why would they remove them? Definitely misshapen though!
    I figured if some popped off in the cold. They used heat to remove the rest, cut the slots for the screws and screw them in

    Just my mind racing to figure out why these 2 grips are fat on the end

    The ranch saber (which I strongly believe to be the wampa cave/dagobah saber) does not have these 2 fat grips. BUT the ranch saber does have the same chunk missing out of the same grip in the wampa cave scene... so strange
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    Sep 6, 2017, 2:40 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #23

    halliwax said: View Post
    The ranch saber (which I strongly believe to be the wampa cave/dagobah saber) does not have these 2 fat grips. BUT the ranch saber does have the same chunk missing out of the same grip in the wampa cave scene... so strange
    Can you clarify what chunk this is?
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    Sep 6, 2017, 5:06 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #24

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    Sep 6, 2017, 5:21 PM - Re: NEW SW Prop pics! #25

    Picture of chunk is from inaccurate source material. Should be discredited from conversation. Gah! Noobs...

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