Lichtbringer
Master Member
Agreed. Both new versions are better than the outdated stuff.
One suit, only the helmets were different. This is twisted logic saying they had two types of helmets in ANH therefore the changes to the Rogue One suits are okay. They aren't.
Wait. Why are we complaining about these not being exactly the same as ANH?
A DIFFERENT SUIT MEANS THAT'S ANOTHER SUIT WE GET TO ADD TO OUR COLLECTIONS!
With this argumentation it´s better you go to the entertainment forums.
Otherwise suck it down that different suit were used ..... and study the details of the new and now actual armor, as they won´t change it to please some.
Get over it, the old suits are done, only for cosplayers now.
Agreed. Both new versions are better than the outdated stuff.
This is the issue right here. Just because you have these expectations, doesn't mean those were shared by the people in charge of making the films. They are in no way obligated to make decisions based on what you think. Sure, you can disagree and say you don't like the choices that were made. But to honestly expect them to live up to the expectations of a tiny percentage of a fringe group of fans and then get upset over it? Sorry, but thats just silly.
This is a broad generalization and also a false assumption. I am a hardcore trooper enthusiast and an absolute stickler for screen accurate details. But I find no problem with the R1 trooper design. In fact I would love to have a R1 trooper bucket sit right along side my RS HDPE. Your response to me might be that I am not a real hardcore trooper enthusiast... But you would be wrong.
The helmet and holster attachment were different. Both stunt and hero helmets were used for close-ups. The hero and stunt frown are pretty noticeably different.
Anyone unhappy about the R1 suits not looking exactly like ANH should not be happy with two different helmets in ANH. The argument against the R1 changes is it takes place shortly before ANH. Based on that logic, the helmets within ANH should be consistent as well.
If you can explain the ANH helmet differences, use the same explanation for the R1 suits.
Why on hearth would I waste my time studying that turd, the FX armor with RT mod helmet has been well documented since 1999/2004.
I'm not a cosplayer.
That last statement of yours tells me all I need to know about yourself.
I suspect it will come out like the Brian Muir Ultimate Vader. I think Gino is just upset they didn't consult him or use his ANH Vader for R1. That is what happens when you claim to have "the best"...Everything else sucks...lol I am sure we will see soon enough, but based on the leaked artwork and the way they handled the TK's...I believe Vader will look close enough.
That's why the SE sandtropper scene was a total cluster****. Agreed!
There weren't two versions of the suit in ANH. Just two different helmets, one for close up scenes and backgrounds helmets labeled within the prop community as stunts.
Even then the Hero Helmet (allegedly used for close-ups) was used in a random manner - not just for close-ups. There are plenty of scenes where a stunt and a hero are standing side-by-side, or a hero helmet is playing second fiddle to a stunt by being placed in the background. ...Lucas wasn't a stickler for details. LOL
Do people really think that Lucasfilm wanted to make as close of a copy as possible of the ANH suit but didn't because they couldn't get ahold of one?
I think it was an intentional decision to update the design. I can understand some not liking it, but the majority of movie goers will like it. Most won't even notice the difference.
Do people really think that Lucasfilm wanted to make as close of a copy as possible of the ANH suit but didn't because they couldn't get ahold of one?
I think it was an intentional decision to update the design. I can understand some not liking it, but the majority of movie goers will like it. Most won't even notice the difference.
I couldn't agree more. this is an official Lucasfilm production with access to the Lucasfilm archives, so I think we can put to bed any ideas or suggestions that they went anywhere else for their references.
Even then the Hero Helmet (allegedly used for close-ups) was used in a random manner - not just for close-ups. There are plenty of scenes where a stunt and a hero are standing side-by-side, or a hero helmet is playing second fiddle to a stunt by being placed in the background. ...Lucas wasn't a stickler for details. LOL
Let me take an example : in ROTJ there are two types of stormtrooper blasters.
One based on a MGC Sterling , new design , qualifies as hero.
A second type of blasters was also used: ESB stunt styled, made of resin either reconditioned ESB stunt blaster or pulled from the same molds.
Well unless you have access to behind the scenes photographs or watch the battle of Endor in slow motion, pause and screen cap, you'll never see the ESB stunt styled blaster on screen. But they are there.
This is the RPF.
WE ARE the RPF : the place where the extracta bubbles were discovered , where all the oB1 parts were identified and sourced, where helmets have been screen matched, where we are all sucker for screen accuracy .
We are not he 99% who don't notice. WE NOTICE.
This isn't the FX trooper appreciation society.
This is the RPF.
WE ARE the RPF : the place where the extracta bubbles were discovered , where all the oB1 parts were identified and sourced, where helmets have been screen matched, where we are all sucker for screen accuracy .
This isn't the FX trooper appreciation society.
We are not he 99% who don't notice. WE NOTICE