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    Jan 20, 2010, 1:15 AM - Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #1

    Anyone have any dimensions or pics for this?








    I always thought it had a cool, Pre-Columbian look to it, and visitors would never know it was a Trek prop.

    THANKS!

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    Jan 20, 2010, 7:48 AM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #2

    Isn't this the one that Picard makes a big deal out of in the episode in the screencaps, then it shows up in Generations and he picks it up and tosses it back on the floor? LOL
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    Jan 20, 2010, 7:55 AM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #3

    I always thought that was strange as well. The only thing he takes from the wrecked room is the photo album.
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    Jan 20, 2010, 8:06 AM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #4

    'redlettermedia' has an amazing review of this very topic in his 'Generations' review on YouTube. His TPM review is high art as well...
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    Jan 20, 2010, 12:09 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #5

    at ex-astris-scientia.org there's a good represetation of the Naiskos from Fact Files. Just google "Kurlan Naiskos" and you'll get there.
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    Jan 20, 2010, 4:50 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #6

    YenChih Lin said: View Post
    at ex-astris-scientia.org there's a good represetation of the Naiskos from Fact Files. Just google "Kurlan Naiskos" and you'll get there.

    Is this the one you're thinking of?





    I got this one awhile back, but didn't post it here because of the size. That's actually a great pic! Thanks!

    I know some castings of the little ones made it out into fandom, does anyone have one they could snap some pics of with a ruler?

    Yeah, the bit in "Generations" flustered me too. All I can figure was the director was trying (hamfistedly) to say something about memories being more important than possessions or something.

    Thanks!

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    Jan 20, 2010, 5:22 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #7

    My own google search turned up this page http://www.michael-parrish.com/kurlan_naiskos/
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    Jan 20, 2010, 5:40 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #8

    Do the smaller statues also open?
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    Jan 20, 2010, 6:01 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #9

    TheMalum said: View Post
    Do the smaller statues also open?
    Not that we ever saw, but it would be kind of cool if they did! You could run with the idea that even the lesser individuals within the greater individual, had smaller individuals within each of them too, like the layers of an onion. ("I" don't want to sculpt all of them though! )

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    Jan 20, 2010, 6:14 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #10

    TheMalum said: View Post
    Do the smaller statues also open?
    If I remember the episode correctly the statute represents the society coming together as a whole,or something to that effect. And I also agree about the "Generations" scene.WAYYY to HAMFISTED...lol
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    Jan 20, 2010, 7:00 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #11

    Eradicator said: View Post
    If I remember the episode correctly the statute represents the society coming together as a whole,or something to that effect. And I also agree about the "Generations" scene.WAYYY to HAMFISTED...lol
    I asked because the smaller statues in the image SgtFang supplied look like they have a seam along the bottom, though that could be because of their shape.
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    Jan 20, 2010, 8:16 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #12

    Someone came up with the non-canon explanation for Picard's behaviour in Generations... Realising the value of the Kurlan Naiskos, he donated the real one to a museum, but kept a facsimile as a reminder of his mentor. So what he threw away wasn't a priceless antique, just a replica.
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    Jan 20, 2010, 9:44 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #13

    @Sarge: Yes, it's the pic. Well, if you look at the 2nd pic you've posted, the small Naiskos could be triple in the volume of a combadge. There you've got a idea of how big those figures are. 10 are possibly in a big Naiskos, the second pic show only nine, if I haven't miscounted and the FF has 10 drawn in. So you work up to the height and width.

    Michael Parrish also shown a inofficial Naiskos from the experience - practically you can do your Naiskos as you wish - it could be passed as a 1st or 2nd dynasty Naiskos or later ones, like what Michael did. This Naiskos represents only the work of the famous nameless Master of Tarquin Hill as stated in the episode. AFAIR, the small ones didn't open. Rick Sternbach designed the Naiskos, he may have all your answers.

    Oh yes, before I forget the Interactive Tech Manual has 2 pics of the Naiskos in the Ready Room, the closed and opened one.
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    Jan 21, 2010, 12:06 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #14

    They were made of Hydrocal FGR 95 Gypsum Cement to give them an authentic look. The small pieces did not open,they were cast solid. The FGR 95 was reinforced with fiberglass cloth.

    Chris Bergschneider and Mark Sisson did the original scuplts, molds and castings.
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    Feb 12, 2015, 8:31 AM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #15

    sawduster said: View Post
    They were made of Hydrocal FGR 95 Gypsum Cement to give them an authentic look. The small pieces did not open,they were cast solid. The FGR 95 was reinforced with fiberglass cloth.

    Chris Bergschneider and Mark Sisson did the original scuplts, molds and castings.
    Excellent info. Thank you!

    Do you happen also to know how the weathering was done? It looks like there were several layers of glazing in greens and browns to simulate grime, but the material bearing the pigment appears to have been very thick. Any idea what that might have been?
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    Feb 12, 2015, 12:38 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #16

    If memory serves...all the coloring was done in the mold. The green patina was brushed in, not covering the entire surface. The mold was then backed with fgr95 with the terra cotta color mixed in and backed with fiberglass and more fgr95 I don't recall anything being done to it once it came out of the mold.I'll check with Chris but he's out the rest of the week on another job. History does repeat itself, Chris is back working here on various projects. I called him in to help with my Morlock mold and he hasn't left : )

    I'll post up some photos later, we have a complete set of the Kurlan Naiskos in the lobby of our office. Funny thing, I woke up this morning thinking about this prop, trying to remember where we bought the patina and Terrra cotta colors.
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    Feb 12, 2015, 2:22 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #17

    Here are photos of the one we have n our lobby, it was made at the same time as the one that went to set.
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    Feb 12, 2015, 3:24 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #18

    Whoa! Amazing pictures!

    I've always wanted one of these!
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    Feb 12, 2015, 3:27 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #19

    Double post. Oops. Got excited!
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    Feb 12, 2015, 6:30 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #20

    sawduster said: View Post
    Here are photos of the one we have n our lobby, it was made at the same time as the one that went to set.
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    Wow. These are fantastic photos, the best I've seen for this prop. Thank you so much for taking the trouble to provide them!

    Do you happen to know what size the little guys are, by the way? An auction listing I've seen has them at 3"x3", but that seems markedly too large, and the wrong proportions.
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    Feb 12, 2015, 7:42 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #21

    They are 2" wide, 2 " tall and aprox 1 3/4" deep.

    Need any other photos? Taking a four day weekend but will be back in the shop on Tuesday. Guess I should have put the top on and taken a photo of it together. I will on Tuesday.
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    Feb 12, 2015, 7:50 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #22

    sawduster said: View Post
    They are 2" wide, 2 " tall and aprox 1 3/4" deep.

    Need any other photos? Taking a four day weekend but will be back in the shop on Tuesday. Guess I should have put the top on and taken a photo of it together. I will on Tuesday.
    Awesome. Thank you again! I think those photos are perfect.

    The dimensions of the overall container would be great too though if you can get them easily.
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    Feb 12, 2015, 7:52 PM - Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #23

    More photos and measurements!!!
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    Feb 12, 2015, 7:59 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #24

    I can measure it when I go back in on Tues
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    Feb 12, 2015, 8:00 PM - Re: Captain Picard's "Kurlan Naiskos" Statue? #25

    sawduster said: View Post
    I can measure it when I go back in on Tues
    Sounds great. Thank you again!

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