Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Post-release)

What did you think of Star Wars: The Last Jedi?

  • It was great. Loved it. Don't miss it at the theaters.

    Votes: 154 26.6%
  • It was good. Liked it very much. Worth the theater visit.

    Votes: 135 23.4%
  • It was okay. Not too pleased with it. Could watch it at the cinema once or wait for home video.

    Votes: 117 20.2%
  • It was disappointing. Watch it on home video instead.

    Votes: 70 12.1%
  • It was bad. Don't waste your time with it.

    Votes: 102 17.6%

  • Total voters
    578
Biggest objection is the stable boy at the end. Anakin was exceptionally strong in the Force, and knew about Jedi, but all he could do was pilot podracers better than any other human. In all of his time as a slave with Gardulla the Hutt or Watto, he had never fallen and instinctively caught himself with the Force, called a tool to his hand, drew on the Force to run from bullies faster or punch smart-mouthed Rodians harder, etc. So I'm not buying the stable boy just casually calling that broom to his hand. Inherent strength in the Force isn't enough. It took years of deliberate, conscious training for Luke to be able to call his lightsaber hilt to his hand. That last scene in general made no sense to me. Who got word out about Luke's showdown with the First Order? How did the stable hands see it? On a casino planet in the Corporate Sector, how have they even heard about the Jedi or Luke in the first place? They were born decades after the order had been wiped out and the Empire had been suppressing mentions.

--Jonah

While this didn't bother me on my second viewing (cuz I didn't even notice it my first), now that you bring it up you are absolutely right. Presumably this kid isn't exceptionally strong in the Force like Anakin and Luke (and now Rey) were, so it's kinda irksome now.
 
I actually loved the stable boy at the end. However, I wish it was a standalone scene, not connected to the rest of the film.

Because I love the idea that you can end the Jedi, but you can't stop the force.

However, this series has completely destroyed the idea that tapping into the force is something that requires patience, and training, and concentration.

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I actually loved the stable boy at the end. However, I wish it was a standalone scene, not connected to the rest of the film.

Because I love the idea that you can end the Jedi, but you can't stop the force.

However, this series has completely destroyed the idea that tapping into the force is something that requires patience, and training, and concentration.

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Most of this movie, and even because of it: TFA, make for fine stand alone films. I actually thought this one was OK when I first saw it, but it isn't aging well, not because of what moments like that do to the movie, but because of what they do to previous movies.

If this is how that universe is, it makes it hard to see Anakin and Luke as anything other than mentally deficient slow learners. ROTJ takes on a whole new meaning if you think of Luke as someone with the learning ability of a sack of potatoes, unable to grasp things with training that other people can get ahold of just because they once heard about it being possible.
 
I never cared at all for fan fiction, but the other day I was looking for something to listen to during walks and I bumped into this one amnd ended up listening to the whole thing from start to finish..


A tad too many wink-winks in the beginning that could be cut and the dialogue can be made tighter but boy, I find this guy's first draft so much more interesting than Rian's first draft.
Also I think Keycube will find his Ben Solo in this story.
 
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I never cared at all for fan fiction, but...

So many words to describe what I'm feeling, and yet...speechless.

Watching this at work, absolutely transfixed. What's that? You need me to do something for you? It's gonna be a minute. :)

If this was all there was, I already have enough to brush TLJ aside completely. Thank you for sharing this, and thank you SO MUCH for the mention!
 
So many words to describe what I'm feeling, and yet...speechless.

Watching this at work, absolutely transfixed. What's that? You need me to do something for you? It's gonna be a minute. :)

If this was all there was, I already have enough to brush TLJ aside completely. Thank you for sharing this, and thank you SO MUCH for the mention!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, it's almost ridiculous how much more I'm looking forward to the next chapter of this story than anything official right now.
This story has so much more heart than what ended up on screen. Carrie said "it's about family, that's why it's so powerful" I was scratching my head in the cinema. But it's absolutely applicable to this one.
 
I never cared at all for fan fiction, but the other day I was looking for something to listen to during walks and I bumped into this one amnd ended up listening to the whole thing from start to finish..

https://youtu.be/9BWlIdbjG60

A tad too many wink-winks in the beginning that could be cut and the dialogue can be made tighter but boy, I find this guy's first draft so much more interesting than Rian's first draft.
Also I think @Keycube will find his Ben Solo in this story.

Thanks for sharing this . I somewhat agree with what you said about the ‘ knowing ‘ remarks and dialogue , but it still seemed more subtle and appropriate ( humour wise ) than what we actually got .

All in all this chapter one (?) , was imo , so much more of what I’d consider a faithfully true continuation / expansion of the saga . It had heart , was character driven with well balanced , considered levity - and most importantly it treated the principles with respect , and not some butt of a cheap joke .

Ged :thumbsup
 
I'm glad you enjoyed it, it's almost ridiculous how much more I'm looking forward to the next chapter of this story than anything official right now.
This story has so much more heart than what ended up on screen. Carrie said "it's about family, that's why it's so powerful" I was scratching my head in the cinema. But it's absolutely applicable to this one.

Yes, thanks for sharing that. I actually teared up a few times listening to that. That is the story that should have been.
 
Thanks for sharing this . I somewhat agree with what you said about the ‘ knowing ‘ remarks and dialogue , but it still seemed more subtle and appropriate ( humour wise ) than what we actually got .

I'm not disputing that for a moment, but thought it's only fair to point out the less successful aspects too.


All in all this chapter one (?) , was imo , so much more of what I’d consider a faithfully true continuation / expansion of the saga . It had heart , was character driven with well balanced , considered levity - and most importantly it treated the principles with respect , and not some butt of a cheap joke .

Ged :thumbsup

If this was all there was, I already have enough to brush TLJ aside completely.
The entire story is online in five chapters, the quality is pretty consistent and after the end I can't wait to hear his Ep9. I think Poe and Finn were a bit underused overall, but other than that it's pretty solid throughout.


Yes, thanks for sharing that. I actually teared up a few times listening to that. That is the story that should have been.

It was very emotionally loaded and he bounced the characters off each other really well.
The first meeting between Ren and Leia is really heartwrenching.
 
I listened to part one but he lost me with the too explicit force vision. It sounded a bit like wish fulfilment. Now, having read the above comments I'm gonna take the time to listen through to the conclusion.
 
I listened to part one but he lost me with the too explicit force vision. It sounded a bit like wish fulfilment. Now, having read the above comments I'm gonna take the time to listen through to the conclusion.

That's a fair point. There are lots of flashbacks which is uncommon in Star Wars. I wonder if there's a way of writing around actual flashbacks in this case.
 
Anyone find it interesting that Colin Trevorrow promised a "profoundly satisfying" answer to Rey's parents, and then he got fired and his drafts got scrapped? Didn't think much of it when it happened, but after seeing TLJ and what Disney/RJ consider satisfying, it's made me wonder if he had something really good in mind but it couldn't work with the visionary expectation-shattering spectacle that was TLJ.
 
Anyone find it interesting that Colin Trevorrow promised a "profoundly satisfying" answer to Rey's parents, and then he got fired and his drafts got scrapped? Didn't think much of it when it happened, but after seeing TLJ and what Disney/RJ consider satisfying, it's made me wonder if he had something really good in mind but it couldn't work with the visionary expectation-shattering spectacle that was TLJ.

I'm more inclined to think Colin had a script very heavy on Leia and when Carrie died he just couldn't re-work a vision that LucasFilm was comfortable to accomadte that tragedy. I honestly feel this really was a case of a director with a strong vision who couldn't let it go when a major character was no longer available to him.
 
Except that Kylo Ren has Skywalker blood in him.

Yeah , but you’ve got to admit that this trailer was promoting / showcasing Daisy Ridleys’ - Rey character moreso than the Ben Solo / Kylo Ren one , when Luke was speaking about his family .
As it’s turned out ( at least so far ) ... it was very misleading - No !? ;)
 
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