AdrenalinReaper
New Member
THIS IS ONLY GOING TO BE A VERY ACCURATE PROP/DUMMY GUN! NOT A FUNCTIONING WEAPON!!!
ALL LAWS GOVERNED BY THE A.T.F. IN HANDELING DEMILITARIZED PROPERTY WILL BE STRICTLY FOLLOWED. "FOR ALL THE FLAG WAVERS........."
Hello all, I'm here to "painfully" start a project. I have been acquiring the accurat parts for a while now to build a perfect genuine replica M134 Minigun from Predator. This Thread will include very good incite to how the gun is assembled and what specific parts were used during filming, since there are continuity issues with how the gun was set up in the movie I will include all parts to adapt from a scene by scene recreation. "May include parts to adapt to the T2 configuration as well." Most probably are unaware that there are many difference between the guns components between the movies, but I've found even the best reprentations have got it wrong in major ways, the grip, the motor, the pins, the gear drives, the feeder delinker shields and link discharge chute, all differant between T2 and Predator. All replicas of Ol'Painless have focused on the fore grip and top rail only and left the rest of the actual gun alone still in the T2 form. So with out dragging on lets get started.
The Parts Groups1st the main components, and hardest to acquire. The Rotor, and Rotor Housing aka Reciever. These components where demilitarized, making them non guns or scrap metal. Welding the housing up requires following very strict rules set forth by the A.T.F. In order to render it still a non gun or dummy. Asensually making it near impossible to retun it to functional operation, and preventing a factory rotor from being installed in to the housing again. The rotor itself will require no need for repair due to being hidden inside the housing. It will need to be modified to allow installation, at the same time preventing the bolt assemblies from tracking.
2nd the barrels x6, and the barrel clamp, or "rings" so commonly called on this forum. The barrels are new, and the barrel clamp was demilled, so it's shown in the process of repair. The clamp still requires a hole to be drilled and a self locking insert nut to be installed. A custom mounting screw will be made for this as well.
3rd the feeder delinker and internals,demilled and requiring major restoration. lots of small parts internally that need attention. My goal is for it to function by properly delinking the dummy rounds from the links and dropping both links and casings seperatly on the ground upon a triggers pull.
4th the motor, original GE 2spd drive motor from an M28 series turret mounted in an AH-1G Cobra Helicopter. This motor has a very noticeable 90 degree drive exiting the rear of the motor. This drove a 4000rd ammo feed drum. Note the T2 motor was actually an off the shelf Dayton or equivalent replacement motor modified to except the modern single spd gear drive. This is what most replicas have replicated.
5th Gears, Pins, Bearings, bolts, and screws. All very specific and all new or like new condition.
6th the bolt assemblies x6, worn out but great for dummy guns. These will be modified and permanently fixed into the rotor to simulate function and perfect static display.
7th the mounting system, all custom except for the trigger grip is from and xm93 mount, the GE short recoil adapters, and an M60 front grip. The xm93 grip doesn't have a thumb switch and neither did the movie gun"in either film" the scene where Ventura flips the safety off is just for illusion, same as when cocking the barrels over to prep the gun. You really do rotate the barrels over buy hand to prime the gun but only till it drop a few links and always in the same direction, 5-6 full revolutions. The the fore grip is a M60 front grip. There are rumors that there are other m60 components holding the grip on, but this is false it was all custom and I will show why during construction of the grip mount.
8th the feed chute, and ammo pack. Feed chute is standard ordnance and has a specific gun end used on the M134 and M60, and the other end is the standard clothes pin style ammo can fixture. The ammo pack is made up of an early 70's Alice Pack frame and shoulder straps and an XM23 M60D 600rd Ammo can.
there were no cargo racks installed on the pack frame as seen on some replicas and the can was held on buy 2 straps custom tailored, not the known available cargo straps, and a few pieces of olive drab "duct" tape.
I'm sure I left something out but we will get to it as the build come together. The picture are random showing some grouping and pre-assembly. Again more photos and details to come as the build begins.
ALL LAWS GOVERNED BY THE A.T.F. IN HANDELING DEMILITARIZED PROPERTY WILL BE STRICTLY FOLLOWED. "FOR ALL THE FLAG WAVERS........."
Hello all, I'm here to "painfully" start a project. I have been acquiring the accurat parts for a while now to build a perfect genuine replica M134 Minigun from Predator. This Thread will include very good incite to how the gun is assembled and what specific parts were used during filming, since there are continuity issues with how the gun was set up in the movie I will include all parts to adapt from a scene by scene recreation. "May include parts to adapt to the T2 configuration as well." Most probably are unaware that there are many difference between the guns components between the movies, but I've found even the best reprentations have got it wrong in major ways, the grip, the motor, the pins, the gear drives, the feeder delinker shields and link discharge chute, all differant between T2 and Predator. All replicas of Ol'Painless have focused on the fore grip and top rail only and left the rest of the actual gun alone still in the T2 form. So with out dragging on lets get started.
The Parts Groups
2nd the barrels x6, and the barrel clamp, or "rings" so commonly called on this forum. The barrels are new, and the barrel clamp was demilled, so it's shown in the process of repair. The clamp still requires a hole to be drilled and a self locking insert nut to be installed. A custom mounting screw will be made for this as well.
3rd the feeder delinker and internals,demilled and requiring major restoration. lots of small parts internally that need attention. My goal is for it to function by properly delinking the dummy rounds from the links and dropping both links and casings seperatly on the ground upon a triggers pull.
4th the motor, original GE 2spd drive motor from an M28 series turret mounted in an AH-1G Cobra Helicopter. This motor has a very noticeable 90 degree drive exiting the rear of the motor. This drove a 4000rd ammo feed drum. Note the T2 motor was actually an off the shelf Dayton or equivalent replacement motor modified to except the modern single spd gear drive. This is what most replicas have replicated.
5th Gears, Pins, Bearings, bolts, and screws. All very specific and all new or like new condition.
6th the bolt assemblies x6, worn out but great for dummy guns. These will be modified and permanently fixed into the rotor to simulate function and perfect static display.
7th the mounting system, all custom except for the trigger grip is from and xm93 mount, the GE short recoil adapters, and an M60 front grip. The xm93 grip doesn't have a thumb switch and neither did the movie gun"in either film" the scene where Ventura flips the safety off is just for illusion, same as when cocking the barrels over to prep the gun. You really do rotate the barrels over buy hand to prime the gun but only till it drop a few links and always in the same direction, 5-6 full revolutions. The the fore grip is a M60 front grip. There are rumors that there are other m60 components holding the grip on, but this is false it was all custom and I will show why during construction of the grip mount.
8th the feed chute, and ammo pack. Feed chute is standard ordnance and has a specific gun end used on the M134 and M60, and the other end is the standard clothes pin style ammo can fixture. The ammo pack is made up of an early 70's Alice Pack frame and shoulder straps and an XM23 M60D 600rd Ammo can.
there were no cargo racks installed on the pack frame as seen on some replicas and the can was held on buy 2 straps custom tailored, not the known available cargo straps, and a few pieces of olive drab "duct" tape.
I'm sure I left something out but we will get to it as the build come together. The picture are random showing some grouping and pre-assembly. Again more photos and details to come as the build begins.
Last edited by a moderator:
