Hmm. I like it more than I dislike it. But something I read long ago was for a theme to be memorable, it should be easily hummed or even sung by anyone of any talent, and is unique to that specific show. The moment you hear the first few notes it brings to mind that show. The only portion of this that can be hummed is the original TOS music. As a musician, the entire composition strikes me as something written to be performed, not remembered.
Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
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I personally think that fandom feeling like it owns and gets to dictate on their franchise dejour makes for a lot of bad opinions on something that hasn't even come out yet. I want to give Discovery a shot even if a fair amount of details don't strike my fancy.
As I said several pages back, it's the "prime universe" promise that throws this off. It's just not true. As a Abrams/Kelvin-verse prequel, I think it looks about right. I'll give it a chance.
THAT said, CBS just announced there will be NO advance reviews. Press embargoes aren't always bad, some marketing plans work that way-- but if this is supposed to be the thing that gets people to buy into their streaming service, that's not a good sign at all.
As I said several pages back, it's the "prime universe" promise that throws this off. It's just not true. As a Abrams/Kelvin-verse prequel, I think it looks about right. I'll give it a chance.
THAT said, CBS just announced there will be NO advance reviews. Press embargoes aren't always bad, some marketing plans work that way-- but if this is supposed to be the thing that gets people to buy into their streaming service, that's not a good sign at all.
Angelus Lupus
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The opening sounds like a pastiche, the midle bit sounds nothing like trek - too moody, dark and action/drama heavy - and the TOS fanfare is like "Better put this in to prove it's Trek"
It's a piece composed by numbers, copying and parodying, rather than invoking a sense of adventure. DS9 and Voyager didn't need to mimic TOS or TNG to create something that was Trek in feel, but still gave a sense of how the overall tone of each spin-off varied.
Now.. if you want a decent modern Trek theme, I've always liked the one from the lesser-known fan-production Intrepid
The audio is from the HQ version they released for download, and the visuals are fan made (but from episode footage)
It's a piece composed by numbers, copying and parodying, rather than invoking a sense of adventure. DS9 and Voyager didn't need to mimic TOS or TNG to create something that was Trek in feel, but still gave a sense of how the overall tone of each spin-off varied.
Now.. if you want a decent modern Trek theme, I've always liked the one from the lesser-known fan-production Intrepid
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AnubisGuard
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I am absolutely convinced the prop was designed pre-shake up and survived.
Interesting. Is this normal for TV? with films it usually is considered not a vote of confidence by the studios.
I posted this but it got lost in the page cut...
Sometimes it's normal for a press embargo depending on the marketing plan. Like it's really common for movies trying to build hype. IT held back reviews until a day or two before. So it's not uncommon.
BUT, when you have a flagship product to sell a subscription service and you let no one have an advance reviews? That's a really bad idea and not a good sign. It means they think they'll get more faith/blind subscriptions with no advance reviews. Meaning, if reviews get out, they think it will do harm.
Sometimes it's normal for a press embargo depending on the marketing plan. Like it's really common for movies trying to build hype. IT held back reviews until a day or two before. So it's not uncommon.
BUT, when you have a flagship product to sell a subscription service and you let no one have an advance reviews? That's a really bad idea and not a good sign. It means they think they'll get more faith/blind subscriptions with no advance reviews. Meaning, if reviews get out, they think it will do harm.
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MooCriket
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https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...-the-walking-dead-michelle-yeoh-a7954196.html
Oh...I guess they forgot about the Captain of DS9? Emissary to the prophets, widower, the man who started the war with the Dominion, aka..the Sisko?!
Oh...I guess they forgot about the Captain of DS9? Emissary to the prophets, widower, the man who started the war with the Dominion, aka..the Sisko?!
I'll see you. And raise you that they forgot ALL Trek.
How about Janeway being a female lead? Like....20 years ago?
Btw The Sisko was the most bad@$$ of all captains
On another forum I got ripped by someone because I dared mention SJWs and hijacking Trek, I see the set up for this a mile a way.
To just go there meant I was some kind of Neanderthal apparently so to speak Nothing against Neanderthals of course.
And my point could not be processed further apparently, I became briefly a 1950s throwback to this person.
I became quite perturbed and I held my tongue and eventually the posts were removed to my surprise.
Just want those wimmen and colored folks as supporting cast at the comm and not the center seat you know!
Guess I watched Voyager because I just wanted to be outraged for seven years.
But it's all spilling out now if you ask me with false headlines like that.
See were diverse, were promoting women. blah blah blah like never before Oh did we mention
she was black, yeah she's black. Like us now? Sisko? Who?
Setting up a straw man to knock down for social justice.
Janeway was there TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO! Sisko was there 24 YEARS AGO! and they did so within that evil realm of confining Trek lore.
They're late to the party and no it's not a costume ball, or do they just enjoy wearing clown outfits?
To just go there meant I was some kind of Neanderthal apparently so to speak Nothing against Neanderthals of course.
And my point could not be processed further apparently, I became briefly a 1950s throwback to this person.
I became quite perturbed and I held my tongue and eventually the posts were removed to my surprise.
Just want those wimmen and colored folks as supporting cast at the comm and not the center seat you know!
Guess I watched Voyager because I just wanted to be outraged for seven years.
But it's all spilling out now if you ask me with false headlines like that.
See were diverse, were promoting women. blah blah blah like never before Oh did we mention
she was black, yeah she's black. Like us now? Sisko? Who?
Setting up a straw man to knock down for social justice.
Janeway was there TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO! Sisko was there 24 YEARS AGO! and they did so within that evil realm of confining Trek lore.
They're late to the party and no it's not a costume ball, or do they just enjoy wearing clown outfits?
AnubisGuard
Master Member
CBS revealed the titles for the first four episodes.
https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/909869786158338048/video/1
Bwahahah hahahahahahahahahahahah--
*breath*
--ahahahahahahahahahahaha.
https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/909869786158338048/video/1
Bwahahah hahahahahahahahahahahah--
*breath*
--ahahahahahahahahahahaha.
robn1
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Isn't it great that Star Trek will finally be diverse after all these years? Let's hear it for Star Trek: Diversity!
Then quit patting yourselves on the back for it all over the media.
Well it wouldn't be Starfleet without a war-mongering captain. What?
Yeah, delightful :unsure
And the male cast, tight costumes were universal. You might even say they were, diverse.
SmilingOtter
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Maybe she means she's the first chronologically...
She would predate the captain of the USS Saratoga (ST IV) and Tryla Scott of the USS Renegade (TNG: "Conspiracy.")
:rolleyes
She would predate the captain of the USS Saratoga (ST IV) and Tryla Scott of the USS Renegade (TNG: "Conspiracy.")
:rolleyes
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