I can't believe no one mentioned this: https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/786951594667409408?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
Star Wars Rogue One new ships!
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Agreed! In fact most of the officially stated LFL numbers are easily debunked by checking against the ships as they appear on screen.
Not that even those are perfectly consistent.
--Alex
rbeach84
Sr Member
Aye, though that is one way to best establish the size of the snowspeeder as a derivative of the AT-AT's size. It should work out to be consistent with the set piece that Hamil is vacating as the foot comes down... this is almost as straight-forward as scaling ships that display an Astromech dome...
R/ Robert
R/ Robert
Jaitea
Master Member
Yep,,...there's a great guy over on the Original Trlogy.com (Savmagoett) who did some scaling of the different scenes of the AT-AT,....he used that shot to work out the overall scale of the Walker & drew up some tasty wire diagrams to illustrate.....which led me to do a mock-up of the AT-AT foot crushing Luke's Speeder,...re-sizing the foot
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Discussing-about-scales-in-star-wars/id/10969/page/3
Those three images are pretty consistent with the rest of the snowspeeder shots and are portraying a snowspeeder of approx 5.3m length.
Now the AT-AT.
Below the most obvious scale establishing shot of the At At is portraying a length of about 30 m length (height varying between 24 - 26 m, depending of the stance):
it's consistent with all these shots (red lines are for the 30m ATAT):
The crushing scene however shows an AT-AT foot that would make a 18.5 m AT-AT, not very convincing and inconsistent with all the above said. I'd say it has to be fixed (as said on Ady's tread). (the red lines are the 30m ATAT & the green ones the 18.5m ATAT):
And here's my conclusion chart:
....and my mock-up of the AT-AT foot crushing Luke's Speeder,...re-sizing the foot:
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ooooh. whats that coming over the hill, is it a ...
check Colin furze you tube channel to see where I got this still from.
Looks ok me thinks.
check Colin furze you tube channel to see where I got this still from.
Looks ok me thinks.
darth_myeek
Sr Member
It's a Disney Star Wars mechanism to draw interest.
- Red C-3PO arm.
- Orange AT-ACT belly.
Guessing the next movie will have a yellow something if artistic director Roy G Biv has anything to say about it.
- Red C-3PO arm.
- Orange AT-ACT belly.
Guessing the next movie will have a yellow something if artistic director Roy G Biv has anything to say about it.
Hunk a Junk
Sr Member
In case anyone was wondering...
And remember, Revell says they used ILM's original digital assets to sculpt their kit, so you know their accuracy is dead on. Who are you going to believe, them or your own lying eyes?
And remember, Revell says they used ILM's original digital assets to sculpt their kit, so you know their accuracy is dead on. Who are you going to believe, them or your own lying eyes?
I don;t think its fair that you are comparing it with a later finalized version. Much like with the TFA, the models were started well ahead of the movie effects being finalized. If you compare the Revell AT-AT to this early model Disney was displaying at least as far back as July you will see it actually is much more accurate to that model. They probably used the same asset that was used to create that model, or may have even directly used that model itself.
I think the problem is the lead time needed to get the product produced means they are working with either simplified or incomplete digital assets. You can see the same issues with the Bandai U-Wing and Bandai Force Awakens 1/144 falcon. They do not match the final renderings shown in the movie. It looks like basic proportions are correct, just the details were later added (much better looking I must say than the original model we see here)
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Hunk a Junk
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You appear to be right that Revell based their kit on a prototype, but that still leaves us with a kit based on a prototype, not what appears in the film and what (I assume) is considered canon. Is it a fair comparison? I think so, because I don't want a model based on a prototype that was seen under a case in a traveling roadshow and doesn't end up on screen. I understand how and why this happens logistically, but at the end of the day we're still left with a kit that doesn't look like the vehicle in the movie -- which is kinda the point.
It will be interesting to compare Bandai's U-wing to Revell's once Bandai's is finally released since one would assume they had roughly the same production lead time. I'd bet money that Bandai's somehow ends up being more accurate.
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Hunk a Junk
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Here's a comparison with the prototype.
I agree. It's certainly closer, but...
I agree. It's certainly closer, but...
I think someone did a comparison and supposedly the Bandai is actually less accurate (at least in regards to panel line placement etc...) but who knows for sure at this point
...the detail sucks on both compared to the later finished version :lol
I definitely agree with that
I'd rather have gotten a more detailed kit after the movie opened then a half thought out proto-type on shelves months before it opens
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In fact, when I first saw that god awful model they had on display I was not a fan of the AT-ACT, but seeing those recent renders, I have come to like it much better
Hunk a Junk
Sr Member
Yeah, I saw that too. The Bandai (assuming it's close to the final design) gets the placement of the wings right (the pivot point is too far back on the Revell) and includes the snowspeeder-like engine grill between the engine pods (Revell doesn't have it at all). Bandai's also has a line of greebly detail on the wings (or are they "S-foils"?) themselves. We'll have to see if their final version gets the panels wrong, but I still think the accuracy nod would have to go to Bandai.
I was saving some screenshots for wallpaper and I noticed the TIE lander, like the one the Death Troopers use on Scariff, is at the trading outpost in the beginning. http://caps.pictures/201/6-rogueone/full/rogue-one-movie-screencaps.com-962.jpg At least I think it's the same ship.
