Graflex Variations: Facts and vs. Replica

the S turn, on the hood of the flash has a different shape then a vintage flash. the glass eye sits too high on the 2.0, the red button is a different color, the beer tab has a bend in it. basically stuff the avenger star wars fan wouldn't pick up on.

the 2.0 is a great platform for a FX saber. very user friendly

Ok.Yeah I kinda thought that area looked a bit different.The 2.0 seems to have less contour in that area maybe?
 
Boy that's a long read!

Hey scottjua ! Ya missed two more tells.:eek

See the first one here....
http://www.scottandtemphotography.com/graflexSaber/Roman2016/B20170104-094400.jpg

...and the second one here....
http://www.scottandtemphotography.com/graflexSaber/Roman2016/B20170104-095349.jpg

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Got 'em? It's the shoulder on the Roman's is smaller and lines up with the edges of the Red Button along the flashes centerline, and the Beer Tab on the Roman's has a wider space at it's "caliper-tips" end.

Further on the first, the Vintage GRAFLEX shoulder presents itself as a circle as viewed from above and the Roman's presents itself as an oval.

TA-DA~!:D Hope this helps.
 
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A little off topic for here and apologies in advance. But, it IS about a flash... So, when people referring to a Kobold talk about a 'stepped top' or 'stepped base', what is it they are referring to, exactly.


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Hey Fusion ! If you're asking about the clip part, that's on the GRAFLEX as the D-Ring holder for the ESB/TFA Skywalker Lightsaber, it's the physical step that lies 1/2 way across the curved side of the clip.

If you're asking about the Kobold Flash body, I think, don't quote me on this, that what the "stepped top" is, is a secondary "step" in the shiny aluminum cylinder that is just above the largest knurled ring on the top section of the flash.

original-kobold-flash-star-wars-droid_1_b42eb874fb476d2bc2c4248ee17fa554.jpg In this pic (Google from Worthpoint - if it's yours I credit you here!), see the black ring with the "button" on it, above that is the largest knurled section, and above that is the "step", I think.
 
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@Ridire is correct in the step description for the flash hadle itself and that picture shows the step very well, other versions just have a smooth curve from silver to black area. I'm unaware of a step on the bottom, sometimes a large retention screw is in the bottom that looks like a step but not machined in. Other variances are black or all silver and the rings with and without knurling plus a couple others like bulb style and such.
 
@Ridire is correct in the step description for the flash hadle itself and that picture shows the step very well, other versions just have a smooth curve from silver to black area. I'm unaware of a step on the bottom, sometimes a large retention screw is in the bottom that looks like a step but not machined in. Other variances are black or all silver and the rings with and without knurling plus a couple others like bulb style and such.

It would appear that I have finally picked up my first Kobold, and it looks exactly like the silver one above.


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Does anyone know if the "telegraph" ever came in 2-cell format?

I bought one this morning, and I'm kinda tempted to swap the bottom with my vintage 2-cell
 
Hey @Title ! The patent drawings had it as a 2-CELL.

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I'm super jealous by the way. Where'd you find it?

Oh thanks!! Now I wont feel bad swapping the bottoms ;)

I found it on eBay at 5:20am yesterday... I couldn't sleep and checked eBay randomly. It had been up for less than an hour, but probably a lot less.... $350!!! (And $90 shipping since I live in Norway)

Best impulse buy yet!

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So for quite some time now (since the very early 90s) I have had a collection of Graflex parts that I bought from a guy that got them at government auction. Most of this stuff came wrapped in paper and dipped cosmoline. (If you don't know what that is, Google it. The Military wrapped everything from nuts and bolts to battleships in the stuff and it is a serious pain to get off when it is 40+ years old)

Most of this stuff was extension flashes, center clips, a ton of the common glass eyes, some Folmer eyes, the smaller flash dish mounts, and other random easily removable parts like levers, bulbs, and the little square washers.

Among the normal clamps are some chromed clamps that bear a remarkable resemblance to the Roman clamps. I know that they are not replicas because I have had them since before anyone even though about making replica flash units. They honestly aren't even as good a quality in the the stamping as the Romans clamps. I am just trying to find some more info about them.

Anyone else have any of these style clamps?

Avolow.
 

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So for quite some time now (since the very early 90s) I have had a collection of Graflex parts that I bought from a guy that got them at government auction. Most of this stuff came wrapped in paper and dipped cosmoline. (If you don't know what that is, Google it. The Military wrapped everything from nuts and bolts to battleships in the stuff and it is a serious pain to get off when it is 40+ years old)

Most of this stuff was extension flashes, center clips, a ton of the common glass eyes, some Folmer eyes, the smaller flash dish mounts, and other random easily removable parts like levers, bulbs, and the little square washers.

Among the normal clamps are some chromed clamps that bear a remarkable resemblance to the Roman clamps. I know that they are not replicas because I have had them since before anyone even though about making replica flash units. They honestly aren't even as good a quality in the the stamping as the Romans clamps. I am just trying to find some more info about them.

Anyone else have any of these style clamps?

Avolow.
this is fascinating! I hate cosmoline and I love it. I brasso-ed a ton of it off a browning booster recently..and it was in nearly mint condition underneath.

wonder why the govn't wanted chromed flash units..
 
this is fascinating! I hate cosmoline and I love it. I brasso-ed a ton of it off a browning booster recently..and it was in nearly mint condition underneath.

wonder why the govn't wanted chromed flash units..

Don't think it was anything the government "wanted" as apposed to just had. These chromed pieces were only maybe 5 out of the 70 or so I originally got in the lot. Most of this collection was in the cosmoline, but some of it was not. And yeah, the stuff that was in it, was in perfect shape. For me, a coffee can of gas, a pair of chemical gloves, and a brush did the trick.
 
Gas...oline?

Yep. The clamps I soaked (that's why most of them do not have any black in the letters), the extension flashes used a tooth brush and a towel. After that I washed them all with soap and water. That was around 20 years ago when I first started selling the stuff off online.

Avolow.
 
Hey thd9791 ! Gasoline works great on sticker residue too! Just wash with soap and water quickly after your done~!

I should mention that this trick is for OEM warning labels and decal graphics on motorcycle tanks and bodywork.
 
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I have always used this stuff on stickers, decals or trim on automotive stuff
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It’s safe on the paint
 

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