Greenie
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
He wasn’t on his own.
Well duh!
He wasn’t on his own.
Well duh!
Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm (after 2021)?
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DARTH ANIBAL
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
I'm not familiar with what the canon says about this--What's the top speed of a womp rat?
Are we really suggesting that shooting one opportunistically is just as/more difficult than hitting a target under the conditions of the trench run?
I'm not familiar with what the canon says about this--What's the top speed of a womp rat?
Are we really suggesting that shooting one opportunistically is just as/more difficult than hitting a target under the conditions of the trench run?
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Greenie
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
I'm not suggesting anything. You said the conditions were different. I stated a difference.
I'm not suggesting anything. You said the conditions were different. I stated a difference.
cboath
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
DS is the size of a moon..
Ship flying at it's equator is going to feel you're on a straight path. Much like driving into the sunset, you won't see the curve.
There were three tie's chasing him, yes. But there was no one behind him when he took the shot. "You're all clear"
Also, that port was in the middle of a dead end of the trench. Kind of like trying to hit an 18" hole in the middle of your bedroom wall. Not impossible at all. If using the force to help guide the shot, it's much easier to guide it 'a little to the left' as opposed to taking the shot from 5 miles away and having to hit that little tiny port.
But, after a matter of like 24 hours, force ability on a scale of 1-10 would rank something like:
Luke: 3
Anakin: 4-5*
Rey: 8-9
Anakin gets an asterisk because he was 8 while the other two were 20ish.
I don't use this to impugn Rey, simply pointing out what it is.
DS is the size of a moon..
Ship flying at it's equator is going to feel you're on a straight path. Much like driving into the sunset, you won't see the curve.
There were three tie's chasing him, yes. But there was no one behind him when he took the shot. "You're all clear"
Also, that port was in the middle of a dead end of the trench. Kind of like trying to hit an 18" hole in the middle of your bedroom wall. Not impossible at all. If using the force to help guide the shot, it's much easier to guide it 'a little to the left' as opposed to taking the shot from 5 miles away and having to hit that little tiny port.
But, after a matter of like 24 hours, force ability on a scale of 1-10 would rank something like:
Luke: 3
Anakin: 4-5*
Rey: 8-9
Anakin gets an asterisk because he was 8 while the other two were 20ish.
I don't use this to impugn Rey, simply pointing out what it is.
DARTH ANIBAL
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
They were very different. The difference you are stating suggests some sort of comparison between the two, though. So, womp rats are (potentially) moving targets. Do we even know if he was taking pop shots at them on the run, versus doing what amounts to cow-tipping? Either way, to bring it up means there's some sort of comparison, or contrast to be derived. It's either the same, or it's different. I think we'd agree it's not the same, but as far as being different, a moving womp rat must be easier to hit than an exhaust port under the conditions and pressure he faced while doing so.
Or, you know...maybe not?
So--mere seconds after having the fighters that were tailing him cleared, pedal to the metal in a X-Wing, with the weight of the entire mission solely on his shoulders--suddenly there was no pressure and the shot should've been as easy as "bull's-eyeing womp rats back home"? :confused
They were very different. The difference you are stating suggests some sort of comparison between the two, though. So, womp rats are (potentially) moving targets. Do we even know if he was taking pop shots at them on the run, versus doing what amounts to cow-tipping? Either way, to bring it up means there's some sort of comparison, or contrast to be derived. It's either the same, or it's different. I think we'd agree it's not the same, but as far as being different, a moving womp rat must be easier to hit than an exhaust port under the conditions and pressure he faced while doing so.
Or, you know...maybe not?
So--mere seconds after having the fighters that were tailing him cleared, pedal to the metal in a X-Wing, with the weight of the entire mission solely on his shoulders--suddenly there was no pressure and the shot should've been as easy as "bull's-eyeing womp rats back home"? :confused
Joek3rr
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I don't see that the Force has levels. A person's mental instability or lack of focus can make it seem that way. But nobody is really stronger than anyone else. This notion comes largely from Legends, and role-playing games, where the game mechanics kinda necessitate that. I'm going to quote Pablo Hildago on this one
"Years of gamification has led some to think of the Force as 'powers' that are 'unlocked', when nothing in the films suggest this. It's instead presented as a state of mind, with the pathway of the 'light' being the sublimation of the self, while the dark the amplification of it."
"In this way of thinking, it's not a question of when Luke learned the 'telekinesis power'. It's about learning to clear his mind, to get out of his own way, his own doubts, to do it. We've seen toddlers having this ability because they don't have enough self to get in the way."
The Force is something you either "do or do not".
I don't see that the Force has levels. A person's mental instability or lack of focus can make it seem that way. But nobody is really stronger than anyone else. This notion comes largely from Legends, and role-playing games, where the game mechanics kinda necessitate that. I'm going to quote Pablo Hildago on this one
"Years of gamification has led some to think of the Force as 'powers' that are 'unlocked', when nothing in the films suggest this. It's instead presented as a state of mind, with the pathway of the 'light' being the sublimation of the self, while the dark the amplification of it."
"In this way of thinking, it's not a question of when Luke learned the 'telekinesis power'. It's about learning to clear his mind, to get out of his own way, his own doubts, to do it. We've seen toddlers having this ability because they don't have enough self to get in the way."
The Force is something you either "do or do not".
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LordHorusNL
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
And the First Order under the command of Grand Admiral "Pmurt"
is trying to prevent Rey from getting an abortion because the father of the child "Kylo Ren" turns out to be her brother after all.
This new chapter in the galactic civil war will be known as Rey vs Wade :lol
And the First Order under the command of Grand Admiral "Pmurt"
is trying to prevent Rey from getting an abortion because the father of the child "Kylo Ren" turns out to be her brother after all.This new chapter in the galactic civil war will be known as Rey vs Wade :lol
Paul Andrew
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
We have canonical evidence that pregnancy exists in Star Wars already, so why not?
Bring it on.
Show me a story I can't predict.
Where's pregnant Jedi Rey kicking Kylo's ass all over the place?
Let's do it.
We have canonical evidence that pregnancy exists in Star Wars already, so why not?
Bring it on.
Show me a story I can't predict.
Where's pregnant Jedi Rey kicking Kylo's ass all over the place?
Let's do it.
Paul Andrew
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
:unsure Nevermind. Not risking my membership quoting something someone else said.
:unsure Nevermind. Not risking my membership quoting something someone else said.
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Mr Webber
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It was also a reference to the fact that Luke had experience in flying and aiming at small targets, probably in tight canyons, so when you combine that fact with the assistance he gained from Obi Wan, it makes the moment totally believable and easily accepted by the audience. Rey on the other hand, that`s a whole other story...........
It was also a reference to the fact that Luke had experience in flying and aiming at small targets, probably in tight canyons, so when you combine that fact with the assistance he gained from Obi Wan, it makes the moment totally believable and easily accepted by the audience. Rey on the other hand, that`s a whole other story...........
Joek3rr
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
How is Rey any different?
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When she flies the Millennium Falcon
How is Rey any different?
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When she flies the Millennium Falcon
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Robinson
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It's like driving a go cart vs piloting a 747.
Flying a popsicle speeder bike is pretty different that a spacecraft.
It's like driving a go cart vs piloting a 747.
Joek3rr
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
And going from a T-16 airspeeder to an T-65 starfighter. Is like going from a Cessna to a F-16.
Not to mention when Finn says "Hey, we need a pilot!" Rey responds "We've got one!" *Gestures to her self*
"You?".
And later Rey says "I've flown some ships before, but I've never left the planet."
So how is she any different from Luke?
And going from a T-16 airspeeder to an T-65 starfighter. Is like going from a Cessna to a F-16.
Not to mention when Finn says "Hey, we need a pilot!" Rey responds "We've got one!" *Gestures to her self*
"You?".
And later Rey says "I've flown some ships before, but I've never left the planet."
So how is she any different from Luke?
Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
Isn't it amazing how virtually no one thought of the elements of the OT as being "continuity errors" until the prequels and sequels were released. Rey is a different character than Luke, just as Luke was a different character than Anakin and that's how it's supposed to be. I take issue with the fact that people seem to imply that I shouldn't hold new characters to the same standard as the originals. You can't change the rules of the game halfway through and expect people to want to continue playing.
But since their release everyone and their brother takes issue with these story elements to justify changes made to the Canon rather than have all of the new material fit with what had been established from the beginning and adding to it. I think THAT is what lies at the core of the rift between the fan base.
Suddenly fans have to justify what clearly worked in the originals when the new films toss out a lot of the previously established ideas and before anyone says that is not the case at least consider that there IS a difference otherwise none of us would be here arguing about it.
I'm not sure that I have ever known the series to be so divisive as it is now and it's a damn shame because Star Wars used to be fun. That's why many of us have walked away.
Isn't it amazing how virtually no one thought of the elements of the OT as being "continuity errors" until the prequels and sequels were released. Rey is a different character than Luke, just as Luke was a different character than Anakin and that's how it's supposed to be. I take issue with the fact that people seem to imply that I shouldn't hold new characters to the same standard as the originals. You can't change the rules of the game halfway through and expect people to want to continue playing.
But since their release everyone and their brother takes issue with these story elements to justify changes made to the Canon rather than have all of the new material fit with what had been established from the beginning and adding to it. I think THAT is what lies at the core of the rift between the fan base.
Suddenly fans have to justify what clearly worked in the originals when the new films toss out a lot of the previously established ideas and before anyone says that is not the case at least consider that there IS a difference otherwise none of us would be here arguing about it.
I'm not sure that I have ever known the series to be so divisive as it is now and it's a damn shame because Star Wars used to be fun. That's why many of us have walked away.
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
Can’t agree more.. I use to enjoy this movie section, now it’s nothing but arguing and negativity..
I really miss the way it was before...
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Can’t agree more.. I use to enjoy this movie section, now it’s nothing but arguing and negativity..
I really miss the way it was before...
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DARTH ANIBAL
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
The movie actually portrays it as a pretty unbelievable achievement. "Great shot, kid! That was one in a million!" I don't think we're ever supposed to believe it's easy. Being great at paintball with your friends isn't the same as stepping onto the battlefield where the stakes are real.
"Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy."
The movie actually portrays it as a pretty unbelievable achievement. "Great shot, kid! That was one in a million!" I don't think we're ever supposed to believe it's easy. Being great at paintball with your friends isn't the same as stepping onto the battlefield where the stakes are real.
"Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy."
Joek3rr
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Re: Kathleen Kennedy to step down from Lucasfilm?
And look at speeds he's traveling at. He isn't using his targeting computer or seem to be using any targeting system at all, aside from just looking out of his cockpit. And his ship isn't flying properly either, being all shot up.
And look at speeds he's traveling at. He isn't using his targeting computer or seem to be using any targeting system at all, aside from just looking out of his cockpit. And his ship isn't flying properly either, being all shot up.
kristen jones
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She can do all of that, and YOU can't even spell her name right! Guess she is pretty badass... at least compared to you.
She can do all of that, and YOU can't even spell her name right! Guess she is pretty badass... at least compared to you.
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