No. Why? Did he died?
No but he was already being associated with the next Alien already so I thought you were being "ironic".
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No. Why? Did he died?
It's going to be a direct sequel to Judgement Day!
http://screenrant.com/terminator-6-timeline-judgment-day-sequel/
I'm not getting the future war proper am I?
I'm not getting the future war proper am I?
I was thinking it might be interesting to see an alternate outcome post T-2 where the T-800 is sent back to protect John but fails, and Judgement Day isn't averted leaving Sarah with nothing to do but prepare for the war with the aging T-800 by her side. She would effectively fill John's role as the leader of the Resistance and the movie would end with her sending Kyle back to 1984 right before she and the Resistance are wiped out by the machines. Also thought it was worth noting that I've only seen T1,T2, and Salvation, so they very well may have done this in one of the other movies, but I think it could be cool.
Doesn't that still negate the entire point behind the movies? It's a neat concept, but if Sarah could just step up and do it herself, then John was never needed at all, thus 1 and 2 have no reason to even exist.
Another reason this series should just end. Doing past 2 pretty much contradicted the whole point of the movies existing in the first place.
I also don't think John's parentage is a closed loop paradox. I think "John Connor" was obviously Sarah's son in Kyle's original future from The Terminator, but I don't think the John Kyle served under was his son. John Connor sending Kyle back in time results in a John Connor being born, but I believe he is not the same John from the original future, and that Kyle having known the original John Connor and his "fate" is what made Sarah name the child from their union John and attempt to direct him towards that same "fabled leader" destiny. They effectively created a prophesy because Kyle had knowledge from the future, but John was no more fated to become a leader than anyone else, he just happened to be one in one timeline which inspired someone to make him one in another.
roof that the original Terminator movie deals with fixed time that cannot be changed:
- He's about my height. He has your eyes. you trust him. He's got a strength. I'd die for John Connor.
- Don't suppose you know who the father is so I won't tell him to get lost?
- John never said much about him. I know he dies before the war...
- Wait. I don't wanna know. So was it John that sent you here?
- I volunteered.
- Why?
- It was a chance to meet the legend. Sarah Connor, who taught her son to fight, organize, prepare from when he was a kid. When you were in hiding before the war.
Reese is always the father and he dies before the war, as stated.
Sarah prepare John as they've gone into hiding before the war - meaning that they knew, which they couldn't have if Reese wasn't always the father.
- John Connor gave me a picture of you once. I didn't know why at the time. It was very old, torn, faded. you were young like you are now. you seemed just a little sad. I used to always wonder what you were thinking at that moment. I memorised every line, every curve. I came across time for you, Sarah. I love you. I always have.
The picture Reese has in the future is the one that is taken of Sarah at the end of the movie.
There is no point in the Terminator series where the timeline "made sense." The paradoxes started with T1. They got steadily more convoluted with each movie whether the flick was good or bad.
If Cameron's new ones are any better then it's because he backed the process up by 3 movies. And he planned all 3 of his new ones at once, which makes them into more like one big movie in the continuity sense.
I disagree. If you view it as what happened in T1 as the future already being altered (that John was Kyle's son, hence he sent his father back to ensure he would be born), there are no paradoxes. You aren't seeing the true original timeline in any movie. The timeline had already been altered, so you're seeing the origin of that alteration.
Reese states himself he doesn't know tech-stuff, so why get hung up on ramblings he doesn't know the first thing about or the inspirational speech a son from the future gives his mother through proxy in the past - a traumatized young woman who has just learned that the future will be a nightmare and billions will die. Instead, focus on the facts, as there are plenty strewn around and they all point to a fixed timeline. The timeline in T1 is basically like the movie. It remains the same every time you view it. And that's the same that happens with the loop:I suppose that's true. T1 could be seen as a totally closed loop.
But Reese's comment about "one possible future" and Cameron's overall attitude is more like "you control your own destiny."
Whether anyone wants it to be is irrelevant. It won't change facts just because you don't like them.And really, there would be no point in doing anything if our futures were "set". Why should the machines bother sending back Terminators in attempt to change things? It's the kind of idea that doesn't go anywhere good. I don't know anyone who thinks life is all predestined, nor does anyone want it to be.
It's obvious that Cameron didn't have his whole multi-generational Terminator franchise planned out when he was running around L.A. in 1983 shooting stuff. Ugh, what an amateur!
It doesn't matter if Cameron is back.
If you recall, Cameron gave a glowing review of Genesys too, and also wrote the 1-dimensional Avatar.
I'm still adamant Terminator doesn't need to continue, with or without him. It never needed to continue past 2, which even he used to agree on.
Because it is a computer - it follows logic. It doesn't really send it back to change anything, but to follow the logical course, because when becoming self-aware it now knows the source of its origin - a T800 Terminator microchip. So... logic dictates that it has to send one back. It has to because it has already happened. So Skynet is just going by what it's logically supposed to do - it knows it won't succeed, because history told it it wouldn't, but it has to send the terminator back because it already has sent one back. Get it. The proof is in the records, so it has to do it. Logic dictates it!And really, there would be no point in doing anything if our futures were "set". Why should the machines bother sending back Terminators in attempt to change things? It's the kind of idea that doesn't go anywhere good.