X-Wing Toy Conversion *Finished*

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  1. Randy13

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    While working on my Duel Truck, I missed working on something Star Wars related so I started a toy conversion from this.

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    I'm not looking to make this screen accurate but I do want to change some things on this toy that bother me. I plan on changing the laser cannons. Adding proper details to the inside of the wings. Work on the butt plate and make the droid socket a little smaller. And do something about the fuselage and nose.

    First the laser cannons. The heat sink part here had to go.

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    I replace the cannons with aluminum tubes.

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    I rebuilt the heat sink parts and cannon rear from scratch with pieces of styrene and rebuild the the tips. I just want to make something closer to the filming miniatures and look less like a toy.

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    Thanks for looking.
     
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  2. Timmythekid

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    Be watching this with great interest! I've got two boxed, waiting to be modded into a nice Red 2 and 3, as well as an earlier 2002 release as Red 5...but I'm too chicken to jump into them before I see someone else's journey with this thing first :) Do you remember what sizes you used for the tubing? And thoughts on a source for a properly-scaled droid? I've heard the Revel Jedi Starfighters droids are a good fit, but the kits are like $35 anywhere near me, which is stupid for a half-inch piece of plastic droid dome.
     
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    I wrote down the tubing measurements and I'll have to look for those. I think I scaled them down one step from the studio scale size. I'm going to make this one Red 3 and I already have the Biggs action figure. For the droid, I'm going to use a PEZ R2D2. The size is about right for this toy and costs a lot less than a Jedi Starfighter.

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    For the tubing, I started off with this very helpful guide. Thank you to whoever made this.

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    I did not start off with the 5/16" tube. Instead I started with the 9/32" which fit perfectly into toy part. I then stepped down to 1/4" and 7/32". Then for the next part of the shaft, I used 3/16" instead of 7/32" like the guide shows. For the very tip I used 3/32" tubing. I kept the length about the same as the guide but just a mm or two shorter.
     
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    I'm not going to rebuild the wings but just add to it. After removing all the little raised pieces, I cut out a thin sheet of styrene and etched in the revised panel lines.

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    The one good thing about the inside of the wings it that there's enough room to add more accurate details. The long thing styrene part in the middle is there for support.

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    Then a test fit. For now I have just penciled in where surface details will be going.

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  6. Junk Pilot

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    Great stuff, Randy. Looks awesome.
     
  7. Randy13

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    Thank you sir.
     
  8. Laspector

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    What do you use to etch those panel lines?
     
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    I used the back side of an X-Acto blade with the tip broken off. Once 3d-builder recommended this, I haven't used anything else. I started with a few light passes of the blade before adding some pressure. I also tilted the blade a little on a couple of passes to make the groove a little wider. I did use a small file just to clean things up but that was probably overkill.
     
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    While waiting for putty and primer to dry on my Duel truck build, I had time to work on the wings.

    Here are the original wings with the small surface details removed.

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    Here's the replacement which I just lay over the top.

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    The inside with surface details.

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    Another shot of the inner wing details.

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    When attaching these wings, I followed what PHArchivist did on his toy conversion and added square metal tubing to prevent the wings from sagging.

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    Then closed them up.

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  12. PHArchivist

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    Looks good so far!
     
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    Thank you very much. I studied your thread a great deal before I started working on this. I just plan on a couple of more changes since I'm not going for that much accuracy. I just want it to look less toy-like. Then I want to focus more on the paint job.
     
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    I worked on the droid strip and making the socket smaller for the PEZ R2D2. First I'm going for a close fit and I'll fill in the gaps later.

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    I did a little droid adjustment and this is how it turned out.

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    I scratched up some small details under the front and back of the engines. I couldn't stand seeing those blank spots.

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    Another look at the inner wings.

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    Dark grey primer.

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    Thanks for looking.
     
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  15. droidgeek

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    Wow! Randy, such major improvements. Really looking fantastic!!
    This will be a truly great display piece.
     
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    Thank you very much. :thumbsup
     
  17. NitroTech

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    I'm following this super close. I love the detail, the more the better and thanks for explaining what and how it's done. Newb question, what's your main source you're getting all the details from? BTW, I see the beginnings of Artoo in the background. Nice!
     
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  18. Hagoth

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    Awesome work on detailing this toy. Great tips on what you are doing to improve the wings. What scale would you say this model is? Looks like about 1:35.
     
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    Thank you NitroTech and Hagoth. I'm using pictures of the Red 3 studio model taken by Jason Eaton for reference. I tried to match the most visible wing details as much as I could. I'm going to leave the engines the way they are. If I remade those, I might as well make the entire thing from scratch. I haven't given much thought as to what scale the toy is. An action figure which is 1:18 scale fits in the cockpit but I feel is a little too large in proportion with the toy. My guess is that the toy might be closer to 1:24 than 1:35 but still smaller than studio scale.

    And yes, I have started a 1:1 R2D2 build as well. That is something that I'll just work on from time to time while waiting for paint or glue to cure.
     
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    Might be something in-between. The picture of the cannons in your hand are what made me think it was about 1:35 or slightly larger. Is the overall length closer to 14" or 24"?

    Ahh, just noticed the ruler in the picture of the wings. Pretty darn close to 1:24.

    A 1:1 R2D2. I can see where this is going. Next it will be a 1:1 X-Wing for him to ride around in. :D Now that would be a cool project. :cool
     
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  21. jake88

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    Looking amazing Randy. I hope you get a break in the action soon to get some painting in.
     
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    It's time I get caught up on my WIP photos.

    Working on the butt plate and mounting. I didn't go with the typical location for the bottom mount because I just wanted to do something different. I'm not going for accuracy here, just wanting to put in some familiar details.

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    I tried cutting out the window of the toy canopy but the plastic is too soft. It's a better idea to scratch build a new one.
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    I decided to rebuild the front fuselage because I wasn't happy with the way the toy looks and this gave me an opportunity to have a mount in the nose. I used a bunch of scrap styrene to build this area up.
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    Then I built some cockpit details and test fit it with a new canopy.
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    More to come.
     
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    Her's some shots of the outer fuselage build. I forgot to take more pictures of this section. Also more cockpit details. I had to do a little alteration to Biggs's legs and butt so he could fit right in the cockpit.

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    More to come.
     
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    To get the wings in the proper "X" position that I want, I had to add some styrene so the wings could mount just right.

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    Some progress shots of the front fuselage.

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    Building a new nose.

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    More to come.
     
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    Finally a coat of primer followed by a lite coat of flat white before I start airbrushing the base coat.

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    Thanks for looking.
     
  26. Hagoth

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    Very nice upgrade job! That came out looking sweet so far. :cool
     
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    And as ALWAYS..... AWESOME :cheers
     
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    You are the one for this kind of precise work, Randy-san.
    Looks great:thumbsup

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    Wow what an incredible job you did with that vintage collection X-wing. Beautiful.

    I’m new to the RPF and I hope I’m not hijacking your thread, but I had recently commissioned my dad to customize three saga collection X-wings to hang in my son’s room. A little backstory here, my dad, a lifelong modeler specializing primarily in warbirds and my mentor in the hobby, had built a whole squadron of WWII fighters that hung in my bedroom growing up. I slept under P40’s, P51’s, P47’s, you name it. So I thought it would be fitting to do the same for my son, except with a Star Wars theme.

    The three X-wings were to represent three generations of our family, me, my son, and my dad. I told him he was free creatively to paint and customize them any way he wanted to. Now they were just meant to be repaints, nothing exotic like Randy13’s conversion and certainly not meant to be movie accurate replicas. He added a few little things of his own here and there, some wing detail and some extra fuselage items, but these were largely meant to be just repaints.

    Like I said, nothing like Randy’s, but I thought I would share them anyway.

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    He did a "Red 3" for my son:

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    He did up a "Red Leader" for me:

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    Lastly, and probably my favorite, my dad's with a WWII themed version:

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    I recently picked up a couple of the vintage collection X-wings that I am going to rework on my own and hope to do something more like what Randy did with his. I wish this thread had been around when I had my dad doing ours, there are some really great resources in this post. Things that are significant in the appearance without hacking the entire thing to pieces with a dremel tool.

    Again, great job with your's Randy.
     
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    Thank you for sharing this Enhancer. What an incredible job your father did. I need to get to the painting stage on this and hope it can come out at least half as good as your dad's work.
     
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    Thanks for the compliments Randy! Something tells me that your painting skills will rival your mod and customization abilities though.
     
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    I'm really new to this scratch building, but I'm curious what thickness of styrene did you use to add to the wings?

     
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    On the outside of the wings I used thin sheets of styrene which was about .5 mm and to make the inside, I used 1 mm thickness. I used these because it's what I had on hand.
     
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    Sorry for not posting anything in a long time. I need to get caught up on updating this thread.

    First, I applied a base coat and then masked out the areas for the markings. I airbrushed all of this using thinned down mixtures of Tamiya paint. The chips were made by using some liquid masking fluid and a hobby knife before the colors completely dried. I also did some light scratches with some fine steel wool.

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    I then went over everything with the base coat. It's not easy to see in these pictures but it really does tone down the colors and make them blend in more.

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    The background is my paint booth made out of cardboard. It's not pretty to look at but works very well. ;)
     
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    And now the finished product.

    Weathering was mostly done with oil paints brushed on using Turpeniod and paint thinner. One other areas, I airbrushed a dirty dark brownish gray that was not quite black.

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    - - - Updated - - -

    And here it is posing with my Hasbro Tie Fighter conversion.

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    Thank you for looking.
     
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    Well done , they look great together
     
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    Wow ! You did a fantastic job on everything but that paint job is top notch. I hope my Hasbro mod turns out as well as yours.
     
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    Very nice conversion and weathering job on this! You have very successfully turned a toy into a great display piece. The X-Wing and TIE look great together,
     
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    Absolutely Stunning work, love the paint job! Makes me want to build one more X-Wing (have the Revel 1/29 Scale ) :)
     
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    I did not make a thread for the Tie Fighter conversion. It was just a quick conversion with nothing screen accurate. I'll see if I still have any WIP pictures.
     
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    Unbelievable, they look like they were done at ILM! Fantastic work, sir!
     
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    Awesome job. Love the dog fight display.
     
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    Hey Randy, it sure was nice to suddenly see updates out of you again on this thing. There have been several threads that I was following with great interest that updates just stopped. So seeing this thread revived, and with such a beautifully finished piece as this, was very exciting. You did an amazing job at capturing the ANH/ILM thing which is my favorite look by far when it comes to X-wings. And man, I had forgotten how much scratch work you had done to the fuselage/canopy as well......nice.

    I love seeing these Hasbro conversions/repaints. In my opinion, they make an excellent stepping stone to prep for working with a studio scale resin version. Especially if you are a noob like me. With them being similar in scale, you can really get a feel for handling something as substantial as the SS version (yet the resin kits are usually significantly heavier) as well as get a good pallet to experiment with finishes/weathering all without fear/risk of bumbling up a more expensive SS resin X-wing kit. There can be such a fine balance of properly washing out the accent colors, weathering just enough without over doing it and just getting the proper overall balance of everything from nose cone to engine nozzle, these Hasbro versions seem to offer plenty of opportunity to experiment and play around with things.

    Again, very well done sir. I've been playing around with one my self and I'd be overly thrilled if it ended up looking even remotely as good as yours.
     
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    Thank you guys! Painting this was quite intimidating. I had practiced my painting technique on a couple of other kit bash builds before painting this and that really helped build my confidence. That's kind of why it took so long for the updates. The biggest challenge for me was to not go overboard with the weathering. I agree painting these toys is a great way to practice before taking on a SS resin kit. I want to say thanks to all the builders who have posted their work on here too. Learning from other people's builds helped me get to this point.
     
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    Very nice! I have that same Hasbro X-wing just waiting. This thread has made me itchy to start! Awesome job!
     
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    Thank you Jake. Love your A-Wing build.
     
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    Great additions to the original toy and the overall painting scheme make this a perfect work of art. To thank you for sharing your images of the completed piece, I have used one of your images and made this mock up to showcase your excellent work.

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    Looking forward to your next project.

    Thanks

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    Wow Oslm! That looks fantastic. Thank you for doing this. Great job.
     
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