Wolverine's Jackets

[Minder Thr33]

Remeber that the Wested jacket may appear a bit long, but if you layer it the way they did in X1 with a white shirt, flannel shirt and then a jean jacket, it'll come out at about the same length. You're just wearing a plain white shirt in the pic, so it'll affect the length pretty good.

The actual pic shown here of the Wested and the pic on their website look a bit different. It somehow looks nicer here.

 

[THEMAN]

I think the PD they're selling now they've improved on by using the collar style I had them do for mine, and they're even using a better color combination now than what I had them do for me... but I just can't get past the stitching and chest vent/zipper setup, that really bothered me on mine. And that was why I went with Wested's. PD didn't seem willing to go all the way through with the correct jacket, and Wested came much closer right from the beginning.
Hopefully Wested will take on my next jacket request.

 

[GuntahKela]

Actually, I noticed , last night, the X1 jacket is slightly longer than the X2 jacket. While the X2 jacket sits right infront of the belt line, leaving the butt fully exposed, the X1 jacket seems to cover 1/3 of the upper butt. Just look at the scene when Wolverine walks out of Cerebro when Profesor X is searching for Rogue.

Slightly, nit-picking inacuracies in the Wested jacket: The yellow triangles, at the waist, might not go around enough. The bicep stripes are to be lower. The bottom bicep stripes should be at the elbow level. I can't see the front zipper. Is it silver?

After seeing the movie last night, brown itself is not doing it for me. If I was colorblind, I'd say the movie jacket was black. I'd rather get my jacket made all over again if a dye job will give it some weird dark rust color. I don't know.

 

[Toferay]

The chest zippers should be lower on the Wested, I think.

 

[GuntahKela]

I'm gonna stop whinning about the color until I call Vanson tomorrow. I was just watching the second disk in the X-men 1.5 DVD. Did ANYONE noticed the KICKASS jacket they made for cyclops, but they never used in the film?

They were showing the costume fittings for cyclops. They were using a model, not the actor, to discuss the costume progress. They first made him wear the actual battle suit, followed by an awesome street X jacket. It had a solf gold X in the left breast, ribs on the shoulders and a neck collar. Black leather all over. Since we discussed the X3 cyclops jacket previously, I figured it would be related. Wouldn't it be cool if we could get someone to make this one? Can someone post screengrabs?

 

[THEMAN]

Hey Gun, you may want to adjust or have someone adjust the settings on whatever you are viewing your movies, the X2 jacket is definitely a darker, closer to black color with gold striping, and the x1 is definitely a very dark brown with dirty orange stripes(weathered red).
You have to remember not to look at only one particular scene as a color reference, and take many of the scenes to get an actual idea. Directors mess with coloring even more in the postproduction besides the lighting alone to creat certain moods and feels for particular scenes.
And there seems to be two different jackets for this X1 movie anyway, so that throws even more mix in.

I wouldn't be worried about Vanson redying correctly... In dying they would use something like a navy blue to darken the color with counteracting the orange you seem to have in your rust coloring.
Because I honestly doubt they will just build a whole new jacket because the colors are off compared to the movie jacket that has had tonns of treatment.
Ordering the jacket with gold striping is inaccurate in the first place since there have never been gold stripes on that movie version. If the only thing wrong with yours is coloring, you've got a great base to start with.

As for the Wested inaccuracies, I'm aware of them. You're right on the waist stripe, it should continue further around the back... I tried to get Wested to change the cut of the back for mine to allow that detail, but they wouldn't change that much of their pattern. But for all the little details that are off on this, it still looks more accurate from day one out of the package than any of the Vanson's I have seen.
The Vanson's are nice, but as has been said, even them being the OG maker, they don't have an exact jacket that looks "right" since every one is made individually. Each Vanson I've seen has been way off on the colors, or the shape of the waist striping is different from jacket to jacket, or the collar changes.
But they are still nice jackets and extremely cool in their own right.

 

[The Mantis]

TheMan, I am waiting on pics of your Wested before I buy one but I agree I think it is the best route right now....if your "tweaks" come out good i will tell Wested to make mine with the same customizations that yours has.

Vanson is scaring me now that Dawn left....if they used Horse hide they blew it BIG time and it sounds like they did....it wont even weather properly if it is horse....

 

[LogansRunner]

I thought this was his wested right here,

 

[Guardian Devil]

I believe it is, it was my understanding the pics in post 338 are of THEMANs Wested version

 

[Knightsaber]

Yeah, that's THEMAN's finished Wested. As far as Vanson goes, there could be a number of things that went awry with Guntahekla's order. It seems that it was plagued with problems from the start. Like I said before, when I orderd my jacket, the sales person (Mike) described the color as a "walnut" color. That sounded good to me, so I'm expecting it to be a nice shade of brown. If it is not, I will have them make a new one in the correct color and leather. It is pretty ridiculous that there have been a fairly good number of these jackets made before with the correct leather (heck, mantis got three.) and they screw this one up. Either way, I will be sure to get my Vanson in the right specs. Tomorrow I'll know...hopefully...

 

[The Mantis]

Sorry, can't keep up with all these posts...I didn't see it...colors and shape look great.. But the waist stripes.....do they really stop that short? Why didn't they continue them a little further...hmmm. And you are right, a tad bit long....and you say they wont change that? Shame.

I may just wear my Wested War of the Worlds jacket this fall and leave the Wolverine jacket to good memories when Vanson customer service and accuracy meant something.

 

[GuntahKela]

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Hey Gun, you may want to adjust or have someone adjust the settings on whatever you are viewing your movies, the X2 jacket is definitely a darker, closer to black color with gold striping, and the x1 is definitely a very dark brown with dirty orange stripes(weathered red).[/b]

I know that. I've mentioned that in my first post, Friday, after getting my jacket. Thanks.

It was my choice to get gold over orange/red/primary yellow.

My settings are fine. I watch movies in a color TV set, not flat screens, laptops or other media that darkens or messes-up the color/brightness if you view the screen from any other point of view other than straight forward.

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You have to remember not to look at only one particular scene as a color reference, and take many of the scenes to get an actual idea. Directors mess with coloring even more in the postproduction besides the lighting alone to creat certain moods and feels for particular scenes.[/b]

Obviously, you haven't read my post from last night, in which I listed ALL the scenes in X1 where the jacket appears in. In all the scenes, same dark, almost black jacket. I did post a list of all scenes, not just 1 scene. Hardly NO variations in the color between scenes. Watch the movie if you don't believe me. I've listed all the scenes for you and everyone to skip directly to those chapters.


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And there seems to be two different jackets for this X1 movie anyway, so that throws even more mix in.[/b]

There can't be much of a difference since both jackets blended in as one: Broken, old and very dark.

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Because I honestly doubt they will just build a whole new jacket because the colors are off compared to the movie jacket that has had tonns of treatment.[/b]

..............You realize I'm not complaining about the color being SLIGHTLY off, but MILES OFF, right? I've seen tons of pics of Vanson's wolf jacket owners. The colors in my jacket does NOT match the movie jacket's color at all, NOT EVEN CLOSE. Not even close to the jackets Mantis has owned in the past, which he used to show-off a lot since X1. I paid $559.00, and I do expect to get what I paid for, specially from a company that brags about their costumer satisfaction record, blah, blah.

I didn't become a fan of this jacket yesterday. Like most props I replicate, I've research it for years. I know what I'm talking about.

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Ordering the jacket with gold striping is inaccurate in the first place since there have never been gold stripes on that movie version. If the only thing wrong with yours is coloring, you've got a great base to start with.[/b]

A great base to start with will be a right colored jacket that would need darking oiling, sandblasting and breakage/aging, which is up to me to do. If we all are going to change from red/orange to Gold, to be more accurate, then we can also use dark brown over rust. I was given color samples, and I wrote the names in the order fax sheet. Only the gold was honored.

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But for all the little details that are off on this, it still looks more accurate from day one out of the package than any of the Vanson's I have seen.[/b]

I disagree completelly, but to each his own.

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The Vanson's are nice, but as has been said, even them being the OG maker, they don't have an exact jacket that looks "right" since every one is made individually. Each Vanson I've seen has been way off on the colors, or the shape of the waist striping is different from jacket to jacket, or the collar changes.
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True, the front zippers, in my jacket, are a bit too close to the gold triangles, which are a tad too fat, and there are other innacuracies regarding the size and distance between details. I've studied this jacket and took 3 years to get my measurents right. I'm awared of the changes, which I can live with. None of these are even worth mentioning, nor have anything to do with the color issue, which is the true issue here.

Could there be a chance they've sent me someone else's custom colored jacket?

 

[GuntahKela]

OK, I'VE GOT IT.......

I've found the color swatches and I WILL PROVE TO YOU ALL THEY USED THE WRONG COLOR. I have samples for walnut, dark brown and OCTAGON, which is what they USED IN MY JACKET.. I will scan them all for you to see the differences. Sit tight, this willtake 4 minutes.

BRB

 

[LogansRunner]

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Could there be a chance they've sent me someone else's custom colored jacket?[/b]

Sounds completely possible, especially in your case, they might have rushed to finally get your jacket out, and messed up the order in doing so. Are you going to post a pic or two of your jacket? Or is it not even worth it..?
EDIT: Just saw your post I will stand by.

 

[GuntahKela]

Here it is. It will end all color devates and bring balance to the force. Because I'm aware the scanner doesn't pick up dark colors well, I ask you to trust me with the descriptions that will continue underneath this pic I'd like to call "Exhibit A":

These are the swatches Dawn sent me, like, 4 or 5 years ago. Yes, the scan was brightened to better show you the color. I guarratee you the photo touch-up does NOT compromise the colors at all.

WALNUT MIGHT LOOK LIKE A LIGHT BROWN, BUT THAT IS DUE TO THE TOUCH-UP I HAD TO DO, SO YOU COULD SEE IT APART FROM THE OTHER COLORS. WALNUT IS A VERY DARK BROWN, BUT NOT AS DARK AS DARK BROWN.

As you can see, the OCTAGON color isn't a dead-on match to my jacket's color, but they do look very damn close in person. My jacket is a tad, just a tad darker and shinier than octagon, which is the closest of all the color in the swatch pile.

While Walnut is a very good color, much better than octagon and my jacket's color, the dark brown will be the one, true winner. Not fully black, but not fully brown either.

I can prove I wanted dark brown to Vanson because I WROTE "DARK BROWN" in my order and I STILL HAVE THE ORDER SHEET WITH ME...... GO, ME.

Guess what? Out of the 3 color leather samples, Walnut is the softest leather sample. Not a huge difference, but it is softer.

Weren't they supposed to use horse leather? Like, I was expecting cow.

 

[LogansRunner]

Point proven, your jacket is definately off from what you ordered.

 

[The Mantis]

Looks like they used horse, you can tell a biut.....but yes, you want dark brown cow....nothing else will do....

BOTTOM LINE: Vanson owes you a NEW jacket...

 

[aljf]

Can some one PM me the Wested customizations for colors ?



Thanks,
aljf :confused

 

[GuntahKela]

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Looks like they used horse, you can tell a biut.....but yes, you want dark brown cow....nothing else will do....

BOTTOM LINE: Vanson owes you a NEW jacket...
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WORD..

The bitching ends. The demands begin.

 

[LogansRunner]

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Looks like they used horse, you can tell a biut.....but yes, you want dark brown cow....nothing else will do....

BOTTOM LINE: Vanson owes you a NEW jacket...
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WORD..

The bitching ends. The demands begin.
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Heh, good luck with your return man. :thumbsup
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Can some one PM me the Wested customizations for colors ?



Thanks,
aljf :confused
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THEMAN sent them different leather to use for the strips so if you want those changed you might have to do the same. There is other differences with the wested like the length being a bit off, etc. I can't name them all as I don't know but I'm sure THEMAN can help you out there.