Woah...Corey Haim dead.

[The Hopkinator]

I really can never work myself up to being all that sad when a famous person kills themselves with drugs. Having so much at their fingertips, making the decision to just constantly shoot themselves up with something or popping pills until they're dead is something they bring on themselves.

I typically disagree with everything Kerr posts, but not this time.
He had more opportunity than most if not ALL of us,, instead he chose to pollute his one body with drugs. Sorry, but I cant say Ill be organizing any vigils on his behalf..

 

[Kerr Avon]

I typically disagree with everything Kerr posts, but not this time.
He had more opportunity than most if not ALL of us,, instead he chose to pollute his one body with drugs. Sorry, but I cant say Ill be organizing any vigils on his behalf..

lollol

I love how I've become the symbol of sanity. When even my most ardent detractors are agreeing with me, you know you're on the wrong side if you're disagreeing with me!

 

[ptgreek]

Spare me the :cry...

Yes I drink, moderately. I smoke cigarettes too... :confused I do however wake up everyday and take care of my family. I work hard, and provide well for those I am responsible for.

No I don't know or associate with anyone with a drug problem. I don't care about people who abuse substances... they don't exist or matter. Substance abusers are a drain on society and a general menace to society. CAN WE SAY DARWIN EFFECT at work!!

I guess I should start by saying I am a recovering addict who has achieved a stretch of 8 years of sobriety. I come from a good, mid to upper class background. I received my first degree in Biochemistry. I also progressed from drinking, smoking pot, taking methamphetamines to shooting heroin. What most dont understand is that Addiction is a disease recognized by medical science and funded for research. Insurance covers treatment. It is far from a moral decision. I do understand the stigma associated with it. Addicts do morally reprehensible things. It is hard to explain, but it goes a little something like this. I was aware that drugs were bad at an early enough age. I to started with just a little drink here..then smoking some pot in college. I saw my life become dark and witnessed the wreckage surrounding it, but the compulsion to continue was like nothing I have ever felt. Now we come to accountability. Of course I am accountable for all that I did during my use....this accountability is a key ingredient to sobriety. But know this, sobriety is only a state of remission. the unfortunate fact of addiction is that it is a progressive, chronic and fatal disease. It's properties are akin to cancer. I live with this every day. Now, where does this put me today. In sobriety I received a masters in film production. I have worked on feature films and recently finished a contract on the Academy Awards. in this time I have also lost many friends to this disease. I'm sorry that some feel that this was "Darwanism" at its best. the unfortunate fact is that addiction may one day touch your life. I hope if it does you find some compassion in your heart. If not, I at least urge you to read more about it before you make blanket statements. In the end a man was was sick and he died. A mother mourns his loss and his friends remember him. it is truly sad

 

[streetjudge79]

No big loss? Any loss of life is huge.

Um, not really, especially when it's a druggie. I have no sympathy for him one bit . He did it to himself. He made the choice. One less dirtbag drug user in the world supporting drug dealers.

Have a great time in hell Cory Haim!

 

[streetjudge79]

No big loss is a pretty messed up thing to say. They guy had friends and family. It's a sad thing when someones life is overtaken by drugs and they never get out of that rut and end up in the grave. 38 years old isn't a long life by any means and it's a shame he never got control.

Not really. Did you personally know the cocaine/Crack lover? He didn't give a rats ass about his family or friends to clean himself up. He put his family through years of pain and suffering. He made the choice .

 

[streetjudge79]

:thumbsdown

Oh well. Don't like my opinion? I don't really care. The guy was a loser. He doesn't deserve all your hooplah.

 

[streetjudge79]

Should you be personally affected on an emotional level...perhaps not.
Should you at least think it's not a good thing on an intellectual basis...definitely.

"No loss" shows a despicable lack of human empathy that does not become someone in the police force.

Has nothing to do with me being a cop. The guy was a drug user/Supported drug dealers . Cory was a dirtbag. Did nothing for society and doesn't deserve all the "oh my god he was the greatest!"
The guy killed himself by his own choice. No big loss to me there , or society.
Cause I'm a cop, I don't deserve an opinion? I guess it's okay to do hardcore drugs all your life and support drug dealers all your life?

NOW THAT IS MESSED UP.

 

[streetjudge79]

What a dickish thing to say!

I was pulling for the guy. You never really heard an unkind word about the guy outside of his personal problems.

This one makes me sad.

Well, then I'm a dick then. Oh well. Let's move on.

 

[streetjudge79]

I don't think I've ever seen a single Corey Haim movie. I don't think I've seen him act in anything, ever.

You aren't missing anything.

 

[streetjudge79]

I really think some people need to get off there holy-high-horses and understand that no one is perfect. We ALL make mistakes.

There are people crying over not being able to help him and I agree that its lame of him to have put those people through that.

But talking smack about the recently deceased? I wouldnt talk that way about my worst enemy.

Truly bad form and pretty disgusting way to be IMHO.

I have alot of cherokee in my family and fully believe that disrespecting the dead is about as low as you can be. Hope none of you get hit by a bus tomorrow!!! WATCH WHERE YOU WALK FOR A WHILE!

Really appalling.

So I guess you are also sympathetic to robbers, burglars,Car thieves,child predators, etc..... Tell ya what, if you love them so much, invite a few homeless drug users to stay in your house.

 

[Egon Spengler]

Not really. Did you personally know the cocaine/Crack lover? He didn't give a rats ass about his family or friends to clean himself up. He put his family through years of pain and suffering. He made the choice .

No I didn't personally know him. Neither did you.

You're completely missing my point. He was more than likely considered a big loss by his family and by his friends, no matter how he behaved in life. So let me get this straight. If you were related to or friends with someone that got hooked on drugs and alcohol and never pulled themselves away from it to the point that it was involved in their death, you'd think it no big loss?

He cared enough about his mother to support her when she was going through a battle with cancer and his mother gave enough of a rats ass about him to be taking care of him when he died so yeah.. no big loss huh?

 

[streetjudge79]

This I do fully agree with.

It is true.

It is horrible.

It was horrible for him to trade his life for a constant buzz and do this to his family.

It was selfish of him to live the way he did.

But I think there is something to be said for self control of ones words.

Bashing a dead guy is kinda pointless. He didnt rape and/or murder anyone. He did it to himself and he paid the price... what more is needed to be said???

I just dont get it.

And like I said, I know Feldman personally... and talked with him about Haim, and saw the tears in his eyes wishin he could help him. I was even in the car with him while he talked to him once.

All I'm sayin is its a sad thing to lose a loved one for any reason...

Is it pathetic to waste your life away on drugs and hurt people that care about you? absofrakkinglutley!

I'm done.

Darkside, I have no personal prob with you dude. And I'm not trying to start a war or change your mind about anything. I just feel that what you posted was unwarrented and pointless. He's dead... he paid the price.

Done and over.

Who's bashing? All that was said was No big loss. Personally to me? I don't give a crap that he killed himself. I really don't. If the guy was a productive member of society that didn't sit around smoking CRACK COCAINE feeling sorry for himself for not getting more famous, well, then I might feel bad.

 

[streetjudge79]

No I didn't personally know him. Neither did you.

You're completely missing my point. He was more than likely considered a big loss by his family and by his friends, no matter how he behaved in life. So let me get this straight. If you were related to or friends with someone that got hooked on drugs and alcohol and never pulled themselves away from it to the point that it was involved in their death, you'd think it no big loss?

He cared enough about his mother to support her when she was going through a battle with cancer and his mother gave enough of a rats ass about him to be taking care of him when he died so yeah.. no big loss huh?

Nope, No big loss to me. Maybe to you, maybe to his mother who he put through 25 years of pain and suffering. Who says all her stress from him didn't cause her cancer?
It's funny how many of you take my comment so personally. Relax and quit getting your panties in a bunch fellas. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Oh by the way, I also don't have sympathy for child predators, Carjackers, Burglars, murderers and Drug dealers. Just so you know where I stand. And most people I work with feel the exact same way . So quit taking it personally. If you want to mourn the guy, I ain't stopping ya and I won't give you crap about it. So quit giving me crap about a 3 word sentence.

 

[Egon Spengler]

I never said it had to be a big loss to YOU. I just think saying it's "No big loss." isn't true. It's a loss to someone, his family, his friends. Not that hard to understand. Maybe not a loss to you, but it is a loss.

 

[streetjudge79]

I never said it had to be a big loss to YOU. I just think saying it's "No big loss." isn't true. It's a loss to someone, his family, his friends. Not that hard to understand. Maybe not a loss to you, but it is a loss.

Ok, let me amend my first comment.. NO BIG LOSS TO ME!
Better? Will you unbunch your panties now?

 

[agent5]

I'm sure every one of you posting in this thread are perfect people, aren't you? You just have to be to make some of the comments in here. :rolleyes

 

[ptgreek]

Actually, you offered much more of an opinion then a three word sentence. You became accusatory of members here "having their panties in a bunch", but felt the need to address every post that didnt agree with you. I guess I take it a bit personally, all considering. I do however realize that there are people out there lacking certain amounts of compassion and who refuse to educate themselves. I wont blame it on your job. I know police officers in recovery that would totally disagree with you. Their contribution to drug court and keeping fellow addicts clean are an invaluable service.

 

[streetjudge79]

So what if I am? I hate being perfect all the time.. it's tiresome.
Seriously though, the guy refused to go to rehab. Hell, he didn't even want to help himself, never even tried. They said so on the news last night. One interview, he even said, if I do drugs again, I'm going to die. He continued to do them. His choice. You can't help a person like that. If you don't want to help yourself, nobody can do it for you.

 

[rollerboi]

I'm sure every one of you posting in this thread are perfect people, aren't you? You just have to be to make some of the comments in here. :rolleyes

Come on, cut us some slack. We've recast the glass house into indestructible plexiglass, so we can throw as many stones as we like.

 

[streetjudge79]

Actually, you offered much more of an opinion then a three word sentence. You became accusatory of members here "having their panties in a bunch", but felt the need to address every post that didnt agree with you. I guess I take it a bit personally, all considering. I do however realize that there are people out there lacking certain amounts of compassion and who refuse to educate themselves. I wont blame it on your job. I know police officers in recovery that would totally disagree with you. Their contribution to drug court and keeping fellow addicts clean are an invaluable service.

Well, that's great then! And lighten up!