William "Bill the Butcher" Cutting
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john barrows from the 501st neg did it.
i'll point him over here... i don't think he gets on here often.
i'll point him over here... i don't think he gets on here often.
Eopie Herder
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john barrows from the 501st neg did it.
i'll point him over here... i don't think he gets on here often.
Man, that is awesome! I still argue to this day that Daniel Day Lewis was robbed at the Oscars that year. Love that performance. This guy has the look down too, sure the contact helps, but it's not just that. He has that slightly crazy look too.
john barrows from the 501st neg did it.
i'll point him over here... i don't think he gets on here often.
thats it!!!!! please do! i really want to work on this costume
Yep, as Brian said, I'm the Butcher. The costume is honestly harder than it looks. Pretty much the whole thing from top to bottom had to be all custom made. It took me like 6 months and a bucket load of $$$. Then again, my vest is the vest worn by Daniel Day-Lewis in the last battle scene of Gangs of New York. Don't get much more accurate than that. LOL! I can try and point you guys in the right direction, but the rest is all up to you and your passion for the character. Plus, it helps that I'm a butcher in REAL life. I also suggest that to attempt the costume a person needs to be slightly tall and have a slim build.
Well, I know I'm tall and skinny enough for it. Plus, I was planning on custom-making pretty much everything. That's where the fun is, right?
I actually have my heart set on the more aristocratic costume he wears throughout most of the movie:
I figure I need to find patterns for an Edwardian shirt, a double-breasted vest, a frock coat, and some generic mid-1800s trousers. I'm not in this game for 100% accuracy, I just want to make a unique and impressive Halloween costume!
Mostly, I'm curious about the contact and the hat. Did you make them yourself? I know Baron Hats makes a Butcher hat, but I'd rather improvise my own, since I'm not filled with cash.
I actually have my heart set on the more aristocratic costume he wears throughout most of the movie:
I figure I need to find patterns for an Edwardian shirt, a double-breasted vest, a frock coat, and some generic mid-1800s trousers. I'm not in this game for 100% accuracy, I just want to make a unique and impressive Halloween costume!
Mostly, I'm curious about the contact and the hat. Did you make them yourself? I know Baron Hats makes a Butcher hat, but I'd rather improvise my own, since I'm not filled with cash.
Go with the Baron Hat company. That's where I got mine and it was worth every stinking penny! I don't care if you have to sell your first born. When the hat arrives in the mail you WILL **** yourself. It's that frick'n cool LOL! I had mine custom so it would look like the one in the first battle scene. The generic Bill the Butcher they sell is the exact hat you need for the costume you intend to make. As for the contact, any Contatcs FX company can do them. I have brown eyes, so my right eye is a regular blue contact and the left is the custom Bill with the eagle holding the shield. Just like in the movie. Plus, mine is a blind eye full selera conact so there's no vision and it covers my ENTIRE eye. If you have any questions about the costume, you can reach me at nicodemus13@gmail.com. Good luck!!!
Brianpettit
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Maybe you want to check out Tim Bender. He makes the bell crown hats that fit the look of Bill's hat. Tim makes some of the best Civil War hats around. I think the bell topper is around 7". I'm not sure if he can make a taller hat or not.
I think it is only one inch shorter than the Baron hat.
Take a look. It may be worth it...
http://www.benderhats.com/about.html
The bell crown
http://www.benderhats.com/bellcrowntoppernew.html
The stove pipe...
http://www.benderhats.com/bellcrowntopperold.html
Hope this helps a bit...
I think it is only one inch shorter than the Baron hat.
Take a look. It may be worth it...
http://www.benderhats.com/about.html
The bell crown
http://www.benderhats.com/bellcrowntoppernew.html
The stove pipe...
http://www.benderhats.com/bellcrowntopperold.html
Hope this helps a bit...
Darth Mule
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I'll second that. He isn't in the business of prop replica, but he does do Victorian hat replicas and his prices beat Baron's by a longshot. His Victorian hats are also the nicest I've seen (I actually own a Bender hat). You'll just have to talk to him about what you want done. Baron charges a ton for their work, and I've never been terribly impressed with their attention to detail.
As far as the patterns go...
Don't bother making the shirt. You can pick a good Victorian/Edwardian shirt up for less than the effort to make one at places like http://www.riverjunction.com/catalog/shirt/shirtindex.html or the http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/gentlemans.php (though Riverjunction has better prices for the same to better quality stuff).
Frock and pants:
Laughing Moon has a great frock pattern. Even comes with vest patterns in it. They also have some good pants patterns you might look through. The McCall's Civil War pants are also good for this. Though most of the pant patterns you will find have waistbands, so if his waist is self-faced (which if memory serves right, it is), you may have to do some minor alterations.
http://www.lafnmoon.com/frock_coat.html
Hope this helps.
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Thanks for that!
The only thing I'm concerned about with the frock coat is getting it to fit right. So far, all the stuff I've tailored has been baggy by design, but Bill's coat seems to be very close-cut to his figure. I'm just a bit nervous to tackle that kind of work! Especially since (I expect) the pattern would need to be adjusted a bit in order to fit my body.
PadawanLearner
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I haven't purchased anything from here, but there might be a few patterns that could help you out: http://www.harriets.com/cowboy.htm
At least the trousers, the double-brested frock pattern looks a bit different, but might still work.
At least the trousers, the double-brested frock pattern looks a bit different, but might still work.
Darth Mule
Sr Member
Thanks for that!
The only thing I'm concerned about with the frock coat is getting it to fit right. So far, all the stuff I've tailored has been baggy by design, but Bill's coat seems to be very close-cut to his figure. I'm just a bit nervous to tackle that kind of work! Especially since (I expect) the pattern would need to be adjusted a bit in order to fit my body.
Go with the one closest to your size (you can actually go a size down as these patterns run large). Cut it out and sew it together in cheap fabric like muslin or some cheap sports twill from the dollar bin (if the fabric has some weight to it, it will be easier to see how the real thing will fit). Put it on, and check to see how it fits. You can pin it together in the front where its supposed to button, and if there is alot of bagginess in the waist, you can pinch it out. Shape it to your body. Just be sure to split the difference between all lthe seams. Transfer these corrections to your pattern, and you're ready for the real fabric.
Getting it to fit right is the easy part. The hard part is to get the tailoring in the front to look nice. This book has some good tips and cheats http://www.amazon.com/TAILORING-SIN...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260935873&sr=8-1
Laffo
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Darth Mule
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Is it just me or does the shape of the hat they are presenting look nothing like the one in the production stills they show? Theirs has a curved edge on the tip, where the production is flat with sharp edges.
For $998 you'd think they're do a little better than that. For that I'd expect 101% accuracy.
That was my first thought.
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