Warehouse 13 - Claudia's (Farnsworth's) Farnsworth
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DARTH SABER
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I don't think they showed the interior of the original Farnsworth...Only Caludias (Ill have to check again though)
I swear, with every episode I watch Im more and more convinced that the creators of this show are jabbing us at the RPF.
I wouldn't be surprised if a future episode included an artifact that was owned by an RPF member or prop collector.
LOL
I swear, with every episode I watch Im more and more convinced that the creators of this show are jabbing us at the RPF.
I wouldn't be surprised if a future episode included an artifact that was owned by an RPF member or prop collector.
LOL
division 6
Master Member
Just watched it again, they only show the Claudia's.
PeterLC
Sr Member
On Claudia's Farnsworth the "sockets" are much higher up anyway. As for the original model I think they just made one with the sockets more towards the middle as the lower positioning did not suit.
PeterLC
Sr Member
The small radio valves inside that Farnsworth aren't going to be that easy to find either. They look like many of the "subminiature" military valves like the CV4501 that were made for radio sets during WW2. They were about 30-35mm long and about 10mm in diameter.
Most of the other internal componenst are items that are/were commonly used in electronics. The coils look to be standard sizes but can be easily wound by hand if needed. The Copper coloured devices in the bottom right look like old axial capacitors used in radios and there is a group of what appear to be large resistors in the middle. I'm basing this on how they look in the screenshots and from what one can see in the blueprints.
It is intersting too to see just what the screen looks like and how it's held in place in Clauida's Farnsworth. INitially the little pins were plainly visible on the faceplate but in the shots with the internals showing there are no pins on the faceplate and the screen is held in place with a couple of small "brackets" commonly used to hold speakers in place these days.
One thing that is noticeable is that the antennas in the top differ in the screenshots from how they look in the blueprints. In the drawing, they continue under the screen but in the screenshots they clearly end just inside the case.
With the faceplate lifted out of the case it looks more like it is made plastic than metal. I thought that earlier but it appears even more so now. The "wreath" effect around the grill is also really intricate. Oddly enough in these later shots the flourishes seem to look more like they are made of foil rather than from fine wire. They seem flatter especially the wreath one.
We're definitely going to need some more of the vacuum formed screens made.
Most of the other internal componenst are items that are/were commonly used in electronics. The coils look to be standard sizes but can be easily wound by hand if needed. The Copper coloured devices in the bottom right look like old axial capacitors used in radios and there is a group of what appear to be large resistors in the middle. I'm basing this on how they look in the screenshots and from what one can see in the blueprints.
It is intersting too to see just what the screen looks like and how it's held in place in Clauida's Farnsworth. INitially the little pins were plainly visible on the faceplate but in the shots with the internals showing there are no pins on the faceplate and the screen is held in place with a couple of small "brackets" commonly used to hold speakers in place these days.
One thing that is noticeable is that the antennas in the top differ in the screenshots from how they look in the blueprints. In the drawing, they continue under the screen but in the screenshots they clearly end just inside the case.
With the faceplate lifted out of the case it looks more like it is made plastic than metal. I thought that earlier but it appears even more so now. The "wreath" effect around the grill is also really intricate. Oddly enough in these later shots the flourishes seem to look more like they are made of foil rather than from fine wire. They seem flatter especially the wreath one.
We're definitely going to need some more of the vacuum formed screens made.
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PeterLC
Sr Member
If one wanted to do a version of the original Farnsworth with the interior parts included some educated guess could be made about what is inside it based on Claudia's. Most of the same things would be there slightly rearranged and maybe a few changes to allow for the different faceplate layout.
Unless they ever show the insides of the original on the show who is to say those guesses aren't right? It could always be rearranged if necessary if they do ever reveal its secrets.
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CB2001
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I have reason to believe that Claudia's (Farnworth's) Farnsworth was a prototype to the two normally used in Season 1. The reason why I say this is because of some minor details in relation to them, namely the differences between them. For example, the "Farnsworth's Farnsworth" has two prongs at the top, which to me indicate that they may be some sort of antenna, while the two regular ones we've seen used by Pete, Myka and Artie don't. And if those aren't antennas, than the hose and copper wire attached to the front cover certainly may be (think of it, using the front cover as a big antenna does make sense).
StarshipClass
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Looks a lot like a TV Flyback Transformer output cable and suction-cup going between the two halves. But of course could be just a makeshift look-alike deal too.
Anybody get pics from the recent episode with Claudia converting the new Farnsworth's into locators ? With the internal parts exposed? Anyway now you all have to wait and see if they convert Claudia's Farnsworth from a locator back to normal, or keep it as a locator.
BTW - is it my imagination or did they change the sound of ALL the Farnsworth's "ringtone" in Season 2 from Season 1 - like it sounds less grating? (I'm not talking about when Clauda mucks around with them.) I liked the Season 1 sound.
PS: One or more of you had a theory the Claudia type Farnsworths were actually older than the Season 1 units and just now got used in Season 2. But if you look at this picture: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/ignatz/IMG_0566.jpg it shows the two headphone jack style connections on the side moved from their original location upwards more toward the top. You can see where they originally were on the unit. So it looks like maybe these were Season 1 style units (maybe in part or in whole) converted for Season 2.
Also, the Claudia Farnsworth viewscreen seems to be WHITE, as seen here; http://www.rubyblade.com/images/farnsworth.JPG
and it looks to me incredibly like those push-in closet stick-up lights you can grab from your local store or supermarket. I used
one in my own Farnsworth reproduction.
The vaccum tube somebody shows here http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv85/ozT4para/Warehouse 13/800px-CV4501.jpg
are a lot like the similar vac tubes used in the Star Trek The Cage clear resin communicators. You can obtain those tubes or very similar.
Looks a lot like a TV Flyback Transformer output cable and suction-cup going between the two halves. But of course could be just a makeshift look-alike deal too.
Anybody get pics from the recent episode with Claudia converting the new Farnsworth's into locators ? With the internal parts exposed? Anyway now you all have to wait and see if they convert Claudia's Farnsworth from a locator back to normal, or keep it as a locator.
BTW - is it my imagination or did they change the sound of ALL the Farnsworth's "ringtone" in Season 2 from Season 1 - like it sounds less grating? (I'm not talking about when Clauda mucks around with them.) I liked the Season 1 sound.
PS: One or more of you had a theory the Claudia type Farnsworths were actually older than the Season 1 units and just now got used in Season 2. But if you look at this picture: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v447/ignatz/IMG_0566.jpg it shows the two headphone jack style connections on the side moved from their original location upwards more toward the top. You can see where they originally were on the unit. So it looks like maybe these were Season 1 style units (maybe in part or in whole) converted for Season 2.
Also, the Claudia Farnsworth viewscreen seems to be WHITE, as seen here; http://www.rubyblade.com/images/farnsworth.JPG
and it looks to me incredibly like those push-in closet stick-up lights you can grab from your local store or supermarket. I used
one in my own Farnsworth reproduction.
The vaccum tube somebody shows here http://i672.photobucket.com/albums/vv85/ozT4para/Warehouse 13/800px-CV4501.jpg
are a lot like the similar vac tubes used in the Star Trek The Cage clear resin communicators. You can obtain those tubes or very similar.
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DARTH SABER
Master Member
Are you referring to the two other holes below the headphone holes?
I dont believe those were "moved". Those two holes are originally part part of the Wheatley flybox.
The rivets seemed to be removed and the holes were left over.
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division 6
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PeterLC
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Artie stated that it was Farnsworth's personal unit which almost implies it was the original. Of course it could be a more advanced prototype that came later. We might never know. It may have some extra features not available on the other units and the I think that the "extra bits" may have either been unnecessary in the "field" models, might have just been simplified and made internal in the "field" units or were not on the field units as Farnsworth's was a later model.
Again these "antennas" at the top might have been for advanced features not needed on field units or even to allow use of extra frequency bands. We see this today where we use different types of antennas for ULF, HF and UHF bands. Also the whole lid would not be an antenna but would act as a groundplane for the wavy antenna elements. This does make sense.
PeterLC
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Re: Farnsworth's Farnsworth! Spoiler
The two types are made using completely different models of Wheatley fly boxes. The "field" units use an aluminium 9601GD fly box and the "Claudia" version uses a Malvern series fly box made of ABS plastic. The "Claudia" model is a complete rebuild. It is also possible that they made two versions initially when doing the pilot and the metal box version was chosen. More likely though that as more money was available after season 2 was ordered, they decided to spend more money and make a fancy one.
The two types are made using completely different models of Wheatley fly boxes. The "field" units use an aluminium 9601GD fly box and the "Claudia" version uses a Malvern series fly box made of ABS plastic. The "Claudia" model is a complete rebuild. It is also possible that they made two versions initially when doing the pilot and the metal box version was chosen. More likely though that as more money was available after season 2 was ordered, they decided to spend more money and make a fancy one.
PeterLC
Sr Member
I'm not sure why these rivets might have been removed but I'm not planning on removing them. I'm just about to order my boxes from Wheatley.
Just to remind people that if they want these boxes, Mark from Wheatley said they must make a "manual" transaction to specify that the foam inserts are not to be included.
DARTH SABER
Master Member
They removed the rivets so that they could take out the silver inset and replace it with a brass inset.
ok so, i don't watch the show, need to get around to it but, what is a farnsworth
Robot Monster
Sr Member
It's a device like a video phone. It can't be hacked or intercepted by anyone who does not have one.
The 2009 SyFy television series Warehouse 13 features a video communicator called "The Farnsworth." In the show's universe, Philo Farnsworth not only made three of these communicators after creating television (one of them being a personal one used by him), he also has a "Farnsworth aisle" in the Warehouse which includes not just some parts and items created by him, but some of his nuclear fusion experiments that one character claims to still be "kicking." Farnsworth also makes an appearance in an episode in a flashback set in 1944.
CB2001
Master Member
I've got a confession to make: Everything from "In the show's universe" to "flashback set in 1944".... I added that earlier this week to the Philo Farnsworth Wikipedia page.
PeterLC
Sr Member
Well there at least 4 of them; Claudia's (Farnsworth's), Pete & Myka's, Artie's and Mrs Frederick's. I'm wondering if there might be more of them lying about in the Farnsworth Aisle. I keep thinking that the dial numbered 1 to 12 is a unit selector so one can call an individual Farnsworth. So, there might be twelve.
I don't have high enough definition copies of the shows to see if the dial is set on a particular number during a call.
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