United Cutlery: Hiro Nakamura Katana review, pics on page 2

kursosawa

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Hello to all, i recently found out that United Cutlery produced an Official reproduction of Hiro Nakamura's Kensei Katana. Has anyone purchased this? How about a review? Lastly, how different is is this reproduction from the actual Paul Chen Practical Plus katana that was used in the original construction of the sword?
 
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If anyone wants to buy one and send it to me I will compare it to my Paul Chen. :D
 
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UC was bought out and is now ran by BudK

Wow!

I did not know that.

I gotta tell you when I was a Manager, at a retail knife shop, a UC Katana, that another store in the chain sold, was used in a beheading.

We were surprised that a 99.99 UC piece of chit did that although that Kat was sharpened by the Manager for an extra 25.00.
 
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Well, aside from the obvious statement that you shouldn't behead anyone, you shouldn't use a stainless steel wall hanger for anything but decoration. Just asking to be hurt.
 
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Those old UC katanas were just polished turds for sure. The had a reasonable nice real katana at the end (Budk UC may still have them) We chopped a few tree limbs off with those, but no way would I have done that with those cheap-os
 
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We were surprised that a 99.99 UC piece of chit did that although that Kat was sharpened by the Manager for an extra 25.00.


It's surprisingly easy to sever a human head. I mean, that's what I've heard... ;)
 
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Well back to the original question Kursosawa asked. How does the UC compare to the Paul Chen? Anyone know ?
 
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Well, since no-one seems to know I ordered one of each. Should have them bu Tuesday. Ill post some pictures and a review.
 
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Great, I look forward to the review. Ive been looking to purchase a paul Chen practical plus to turn it into the Kensei katana, but if the UC version is a decent rendition, then i guess ill pick that one up instead, at a fraction of the cost of the Chen.
 
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Ok the UC Hiro sword arrived yesterday. I really like it. It seems to be really well made. The steel on the blade is in fact carbon steel, not stainless, therefore it arrived caked in thick greasy oil. Was easy enough to clean off.

The Blade:
Had to be very careful when cleaning the sword, the sword is VERY sharp. Im not talking sharp as in a kitchen knife, its sharp as in razor sharp, but almost 3 feet long. However it is not tempered so it can not be used as a real sword as it would eventually bend. The downside the having a real carbon steel blade is that you cannot touch it with your skin, as the oils from your skin will cause it to tarnish very quickly, and eventually rust. The shape and size look similar to the screen used one, as is the tsuba (hand guard). I do not know what material the tsuba is made of though. The hamon line on the blade is acid etched of course, since the blade isn't tempered. attempting to polish the blade would erase the hamon line so don't do it.

The Tsuka (handle):
Looks better than the screen used version. The Ito (braid) is real leather and is wrapped in the traditional manner, except for the middle part which was obviously removed. The screen used prop (at least from the screengrabs I have) is a real mess in this area with the Ito twisted in some parts and flat on others, very loosely wrapped. So although it is not screen accurate, I prefer it over the mess the prop guy did on the original. I cannot tell if the Same (rayskin under the braid) is real or not, but it look good enough

*edit* correction. I was just watching the series on DVD and noticed that the Tsukamaki on the hero prop is well done, unlike what I stated above. The one that is a mess is the one that they steal from the Museum, which is not a real sword but a reproduction. that is good news , because that means that the UC is actually accurate. The only thing I did notice is that the Chen is double pegged (the little bamboo pin that holds the handle to the tang) and the UC has a single peg. Just a nitpick really, as it is barely visible. Its just a little black bump about an inch below the Godsend symbol.

The Saya (scabbard)
Well made and a good representation of the movie prop. holds the sword firmly enough with a nicely wrapped Sageo. It is finished in a semigloss/flat black which will not display fingerprints.



When the Paul Chen arrives Ill write a full review with some pictures of both.
 
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Awesome review, very informative. Now I'll have to look into getting one...
 
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I got the Paul Chen yesterday. Ill take pics and do a review tomorrow.
 
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Instead of writing a whole review Ill post a bunch of pictures :angel
Ask away if you have any questions, Ill be glad to answer them.

Click on the thumbnail to view a small picture and click again on that picture to see a full size image.

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Edit. Sae the part about it being acid etched.
As far as the Tsukamaki....Im pretty sure that the effect they were going for was teh katatemaki style of wrap wherein the middle portion of the tsuka is wrapped solid.. obviously they did not achieve this accurately and the wrap the sword utilizes is impractical to say teh the least.I prefer katatemaki style tsukamaki and it is what I use on my swords when I have them restored. What it breaks down to is teh prop folks dont have a clue obviously unless there is some story oriented explanation we havent seen yet as to the sloppy impractical tsukamaki style on Hiros katana.
 
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looking at the average price of the UC Hiro katana, there is no way that thing could be differentially tempered.
 
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not true
Paul Chens practical Ninja to is Differentially tempered and goes for about 175.00.
What a lot of people dont understand is that differential heat treatment does not necessarily mean CLAY FIRED and water quenched. You can achieve differential heat treatment (as in teh case of Kris cutlery ) with out clay. A lot of time acid is used to then bring out the 'hamon'. Typically these hamon do not exhibit much style or activity but they are the result of differential heat treatment even if it isnt teh result of teh application of clay.
The fact is all of these swords are being produced in China and a $224 Hiro Katana can be diff tempered if a $175 'ninja to' can be.
 
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