UK bans the import of *anything remotely harmful*...
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harleystone
New Member
make that two lol
DARKSIDE72
Sr Member
It's sad to see this happening in the UK. The UK government really has a stranglehold on its populace.
What's next?
You've been told you can't protect/defend yourself...
You've been told what you can and can not own...
You can't enjoy sporting with firearms... (even with toys)
Now you're being told what you can and can not wear...
They will ban specific films, video games , and books next and moderate what you can access on the net watch.
I'm from Scotland, the UK will always have a place in my heart but I wouldn't give up the freedom of the US for anything. The little island is looking more and more like WWII Germany. :confused
What's next?
You've been told you can't protect/defend yourself...
You've been told what you can and can not own...
You can't enjoy sporting with firearms... (even with toys)
Now you're being told what you can and can not wear...
They will ban specific films, video games , and books next and moderate what you can access on the net watch.
I'm from Scotland, the UK will always have a place in my heart but I wouldn't give up the freedom of the US for anything. The little island is looking more and more like WWII Germany. :confused
STARTREKINFINITY
New Member
That's ridiculous. SLAVES is what you'll be. DICTATORSHIP is the next step. This was already proclaimed by the N.R.A. here in the US.
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harleystone
New Member
dude you have no idea,
"They will ban specific films, video games , and books next and moderate what you can access on the net watch."
they already have all but stopped manhunt 2 coming out (it will get a release but heavily modified from its original release) now while that game has no artistic merit and shouldn't get made in the first place (in my opinion) it is still up to the individual at the end of the day and up to parents to control what their child gains access to.
also the net thing will happen to everyone when "they" launch the internet 2 and crash the old one and blame it on, oh you know who!
(sorry, Im thinking that too many things are happening not just in this country but around the world for folks not to figure out somethings up...or is it just me? )
anyway what about these props then...
"They will ban specific films, video games , and books next and moderate what you can access on the net watch."
they already have all but stopped manhunt 2 coming out (it will get a release but heavily modified from its original release) now while that game has no artistic merit and shouldn't get made in the first place (in my opinion) it is still up to the individual at the end of the day and up to parents to control what their child gains access to.
also the net thing will happen to everyone when "they" launch the internet 2 and crash the old one and blame it on, oh you know who!
(sorry, Im thinking that too many things are happening not just in this country but around the world for folks not to figure out somethings up...or is it just me? )
anyway what about these props then...
Here's an idea:
Since ol' Blightly seems all but lost, how 'bout comin' over to Sweden and help me make sure the same thing doesn't happen here? So far, so good... common sense prevails over here(mostly... they just passed a freakin' strange law about monitoring all internet traffic crossing the borders and people are going bonkers).
As of yet there are sufficiently few delinquents using airsofts and stuff in robberies to cause problems.
Since ol' Blightly seems all but lost, how 'bout comin' over to Sweden and help me make sure the same thing doesn't happen here? So far, so good... common sense prevails over here(mostly... they just passed a freakin' strange law about monitoring all internet traffic crossing the borders and people are going bonkers).
As of yet there are sufficiently few delinquents using airsofts and stuff in robberies to cause problems.
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defstartrooper
Sr Member
Funnily enough i'd really like to move to Sweden one of the few places where the people have a voice and make it heard.
Sterlacchini
Sr Member
I've been researching some items I'd like to buy recently.
Since this ban has been in place has anyone managed to import any science fiction prop weapons, either assembled or in kit form, to the UK?
I'm thinking specifically of:
- E-11 Stormtrooper blasters
- Logan's Run DS pistols (working or non working)
- Blade Runner Blasters
- Aliens Pulse rifles
I've heard mixed reports.
To me the DS and Pulse rilfe look nothing like a 'real' weapons, and I've seen quite a few people 'Trooping' in the UK with E-11's. I've also heard from a retailer that they've had no problems shipping Blade Runner kits to the UK. A lot of the confiscation stories seem to be about more 'real world' accurate prop weapons, not sci-fi. Any experiences?
Since this ban has been in place has anyone managed to import any science fiction prop weapons, either assembled or in kit form, to the UK?
I'm thinking specifically of:
- E-11 Stormtrooper blasters
- Logan's Run DS pistols (working or non working)
- Blade Runner Blasters
- Aliens Pulse rifles
I've heard mixed reports.
To me the DS and Pulse rilfe look nothing like a 'real' weapons, and I've seen quite a few people 'Trooping' in the UK with E-11's. I've also heard from a retailer that they've had no problems shipping Blade Runner kits to the UK. A lot of the confiscation stories seem to be about more 'real world' accurate prop weapons, not sci-fi. Any experiences?
Sterlacchini
Sr Member
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/ukpga_20060038_en_5
Wouldn't a DS come under this, regards shape? Or am I clutching at straws?
Also I saw a bunch of Troopers with E-11s at a convention recently, they even had a photo opportunity 'arresting' a police officer, do they have some kind of theatrical exemption?
How do you go about getting a theatrical exemption? I make films as a hobby and had no problem (recently) stomping through local woods and moors with five people swinging these 'rifle' props around. I informed the police and although they don't look like guns close up they could be mistaken at a distance.
They're a bit crude and not up to the standards here I know, but I had to make six quickly, and very cheaply (it's amazing what you can do with a few table legs and a scope). Looks okay with the rest of the costume and sort of fits with the story.
Could I use my film making to help find a loop hole?
Wouldn't a DS come under this, regards shape? Or am I clutching at straws?
Also I saw a bunch of Troopers with E-11s at a convention recently, they even had a photo opportunity 'arresting' a police officer, do they have some kind of theatrical exemption?
How do you go about getting a theatrical exemption? I make films as a hobby and had no problem (recently) stomping through local woods and moors with five people swinging these 'rifle' props around. I informed the police and although they don't look like guns close up they could be mistaken at a distance.
They're a bit crude and not up to the standards here I know, but I had to make six quickly, and very cheaply (it's amazing what you can do with a few table legs and a scope). Looks okay with the rest of the costume and sort of fits with the story.
Could I use my film making to help find a loop hole?
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defstartrooper
Sr Member
The law doesn't prohibit ownership.
Sterlacchini
Sr Member
That's what I thought (and hoped), so why was this collector's MR Star War collection confiscated?
Has anyone had any first hand experiences, positive or negative, since the ban?
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defstartrooper
Sr Member
No idea.
I think (my own opinion) on this really grey area of new law is that its a bit of a lottery who deals with you. If you import an obvious sci-fi prop and it gets intercepted by customs, you may or may not get it cleared, same with investigating Police Officers. There is just not enough case law on it yet. I was looking at the 'defences' to this act and there appears to be plenty of grey areas there too; for instance if your collection is deemed to be in a museum then you have a defence in law. I looked up museum and it states ' noun - a building in which objects of interest or significance are stored and exhibited' I have props stored and exhibited at my place which are interesting, ergo I'd have a punt at that defence - there doesnt appear to be a specific definition (in the act) re museum. Truth is until we get a bunch of case law its gonna be dealt with by the authorities on an ad hoc basis... That make any sense?
Sterlacchini
Sr Member
I'm getting even more confused.
I'm researching making my own blaster, using the best kit(s) I can get my hands on. Whilst looking at functioning sterling folding stocks, I came across quite a few de-activated L2A3's which still seem to be readily available.
So I can buy a de-activated real weapon, but I can import a toy blaster?
So is it still okay to buy replica blasters within the UK?
MR blasters seem to be selling for less in the US.
I'm researching making my own blaster, using the best kit(s) I can get my hands on. Whilst looking at functioning sterling folding stocks, I came across quite a few de-activated L2A3's which still seem to be readily available.
So I can buy a de-activated real weapon, but I can import a toy blaster?
So is it still okay to buy replica blasters within the UK?
MR blasters seem to be selling for less in the US.
Sidewinder
Sr Member
Correct.
Unless you have an exemption for being in TV/Museum etc. then no.
SAS
Sterlacchini
Sr Member
So... can I buy a real de-activated Sterling and modify it?
They're a bit pricey, but it's something to consider.
They're a bit pricey, but it's something to consider.
Eagle
Sr Member
"Anyone can call anything a museum"
What's the legal definition of a museum or gallery - that which would
be recognised in a court of law?
What is a museum?
What criteria (if any) are to be meet in order to become a legally
recognised museum? Is stating that a location is 'open to the public for
viewing' enough to qualify?
Personal communication from: http://www.mla.gov.uk/
Your call.
What's the legal definition of a museum or gallery - that which would
be recognised in a court of law?
What is a museum?
What criteria (if any) are to be meet in order to become a legally
recognised museum? Is stating that a location is 'open to the public for
viewing' enough to qualify?
Personal communication from: http://www.mla.gov.uk/
Your call.
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