U.S.S. Reliant, 36 inch DeBoer Hulls model

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  1. Ketzer.com

    Ketzer.com Sr Member

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  2. temponaut

    temponaut Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Oooh, this is gonna be good.

    Looking forward to the build diary. :)
     
  3. Riv

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    Wow, I was just looking at the 1701-A diary. That is some freakin spectacular model work.

    Can't wait to see this one.
     
  4. greatwazoo42

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    I'm droolin'...you do some serioulsy fantastic looking work.
     
  5. knightdriver2001

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    Wowzers........ They finally released it..... :eek

    I wonder what it is going for? You have a link to their site at all?

    Gonna look great though. B)
     
  6. REL

    REL Sr Member

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    Your work on the 1701-A is the best I've seen, it truly looks like the studio model. I'm sure this one will be just as good.
     
  7. Ketzer.com

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    Thanks guys. I will upload more photos over the weekend.

    DeBoer website

    Tim
     
  8. clancampbell

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    Oh man.....my fave ship (bar TMP 1701 of course...)

    This is going to look utterly spectacular.

    Rich
     
  9. Studio Stasis

    Studio Stasis Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    I've been waiting for like 2 years to see that model offered. I wish I could afford one, but that has always been my favorite ship. Something about its aggressive posture and the incredible camera shots of it made me fall in love with it at the tender age of 8. TMP Enterprise and Excelsior are in my top fave list with this one though. I cant wait to see what you do with it. I imagine its a 1600 dollar model like the Enterpise A?
     
  10. xeno

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    it would be really cool to have one engine shot of with wires
    hanging out

    Xeno

    [​IMG]
     
  11. SSRN Seaview

    SSRN Seaview Well-Known Member

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    Well if Tim got #1, then only 14 more kits available. According to the website. Looks like a "get it now or tomorrow gone" kinda proposition.
     
  12. phase pistol

    phase pistol Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Ooo. One big happy fleet. :)

    - k
     
  13. Ketzer.com

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    That is not my kit. I am building it for a friend who has had it for at least a couple months.

    Tim
     
  14. tobiasrichter

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    Yes, that would be me again :). I have that kit for about 5 months now. The price was unfortunately even higher than the Enterprise - and it has a couple of small flaws which I hope Tim is able to correct. I have no doubt this will turn out as another excellent model.


    Tobias
     
  15. Nektu

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    What flaws are you referring to? I was seriously considering this kit, and already have the Enterprise model. (Need a whole room to display both.)


    KK
     
  16. tobiasrichter

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    Overall, this is a very nice kit and I don´t regret buying it.

    That said, the things I noticed so far are:
    The curvature of the torpedo pylon is slightly off - too straight in the middle.
    A bit difficult to fix is that the sensors on the top of the saucers (those "clamps") are about half a centimeter too far on the outside, making it almost impossible to line up correctly with the red stripes on the front saucer.
    And the bridge is also slightly tilted to the back - same thing as with the Enterprise.
    As I said, nothing major, but unfortunate (especially the sensor issue)

    Hope that helps,
    Tobias
     
  17. Nektu

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    I saw the photos on Dennis' page, and notice the sensors immediately... thought it may have been a camera/photograph issue. But apparently not. How do you fix that? It's not a seperate part you add to the hull, and would be really tough to physically move. Has Tim had any ideas or is he going to leave 'well enough' alone?

    KK
     
  18. trekprops.de

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    Nice. I'm looking forward to seeing this progress.

    Also just looked at the Enterprise-A pics - GREAT JOB.
     
  19. tobiasrichter

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    It will be a challenge to change the sensors. The only way is to cut them out and fit them in at the right position, filling the gap with styrene and putty. Not an easy task, but I think it could be done. I hope Tim will try it ...

    Tobias
     
  20. Nektu

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    after looking for a bit, I think the problem is bigger... I think Dennis used his 1701 primary hull as the starting point (for obvious reasons). The taper/curve is too flat. Like the nacelles, the primary hull has a more pronounced curve, thicker in the middle if you will. Just moving the sensors won't do it. They look to be in the right place based on the back section.
    Tough one.

    KK
     
  21. tobiasrichter

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    You are probably right there, but I haven´t noticed that the curvature of the saucer is off - so at least it´s not that obvious I think moving the sensors will do most of the job, also in regards to the back of the ship. The fine line that goes to the back from the sensors has to be about 1/3 or 1/4th within the sensors. I think the front section is much more important because of the red stripes. It would look odd if the stripes will not line up with the sensor.

    Tobias
     
  22. Ketzer.com

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    My plan was to remove the sensors and move further in towards the center. But I will glue the saucer sections together first. not sure how stable the model will be once the sensors are removed.

    Not sure yet how to change the torpedo pylon. Either scratch buitl a new one, or try to bend the original one.

    I uploaded a couple more pictures.

    Tim
     
  23. Nektu

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    sensors look to be in the right spot...

    KK
     
  24. Beagle Bill

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    I'm not sure how Dennis missed a detail like that. :confused I bought what he said would probably be the last Enterprise a couple of years ago (unless he's decided to made new molds) and as you all know from the pics on Tim's site it's absolutely gorgeous. I don't see how Dennis missed a detail like the sensor position because of his attention to all the other details. I know the studio Reliant was completely scratchbuilt, and even a different scale than the Enterprise, but I never noticed the curve of the primary hull being different. It looks like it should be an easy fix. Tim, I hope my Big E looks half as good as yours when I get it done. I'm sure the Reliant will be every bit the museum piece your E is. Awesome job. :thumbsup

    Bill
     
  25. Ketzer.com

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    new pics added today.

    I removed the sensors.

    [​IMG]

    Tim
     
  26. tobiasrichter

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  27. Ketzer.com

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    Yeah, I dunno if I can fix that, so I will make this look like battle damage, if you don't mind.

    ;)

    Tim
     
  28. 12Rogues

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    Last time I had this feeling was when I saw part of a reverse vasectomy on TV. :eek:

    Watching this one to the end though. :p
     
  29. Clerval

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    Nice cut, Tim. Do you envision having to rebuild the sensors or at least their base to accomodate the different angle they'll be sitting on? Or will the difference be barely noticed? I know it's only 1/4 inch or so, but it looks like it's at a point where the hull has started to shoot upward more sharply.
     
  30. Ketzer.com

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    The sensors are still in one piece (each). I don't think I will have to change them much. I am going to trim the domed piece and attach it seperately from the top half.

    Tim
     
  31. Nektu

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    Yowza.... Now how do you make the windows around the sensors look right? I'm sure you can do the best thing, but won't they look too close together from a top view? It's a can of worms in Pandora's Box you've just opened.

    KK
     
  32. Ketzer.com

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    I would have had to move ALL the windows over to match the sensor, but hopefully, nobody will notice that they are off a little. I did move a couple windows though.

    Tim
     
  33. Lello999

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    Once again great work Tim..

    Domenik
     
  34. phase pistol

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    KHAAAAAAAAAAAANN.
     
  35. USSCassiopeia

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    What a beautiful ship.......
     
  36. Ketzer.com

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  37. Beagle Bill

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    Hey, Tim.

    Any progress on the Reliant recently? She's always been one of my favorite ships. :)

    Bill
     
  38. Ketzer.com

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kevoris @ May 8 2006, 08:55 PM) [snapback]1240753[/snapback]</div>

    Nope. Got side tracked by two 23inch Eagles from Space 1999. Once these are done, I will get back to the Reliant.

    Actually, I just checked my site. :unsure Not all the pictures are there yet. I will upload some more withoin the next few days.
    The model is put together.

    Tim
     
  39. Ketzer.com

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  40. Aegis159

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    Ok Tim, in the picture below, what are the tubes in the dish section for? Or are those the cold cathodes? I ask because it looks like they're hollow tubes.....
     
  41. Ketzer.com

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    Those are square aluminum tubes that were added by the maker of the kit. They are supposed to keep the saucer from warping, but I dunno if they were neccessary.

    Tim
     
  42. Aegis159

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    you didn't mind me using your pic did you?
     
  43. Ketzer.com

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Aegis159 @ May 12 2006, 08:35 PM) [snapback]1243303[/snapback]</div>

    Nope. I don't mind people using any of my pictures on my site as long as they do not remove the Ketzer.com logo, use them on THEIR webistes, THEIR ebay auctions or therelike.

    :)

    Tim
     
  44. captjustc

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    If the 1701A is any indication, this is going to be awesome. What are the plans for lighting?
     
  45. swhite228

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    <div class='quotetop'>(Aegis159 @ May 12 2006, 06:05 AM) [snapback]1243063[/snapback]</div>
    If it's the same as my Enterprise the tubes are just that,hollow tubes.

    They are used to help support the saucer shape and are needed.
     
  46. Ketzer.com

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    I just started painting the Reliant:

    http://www.ketzer.com/reliant

    The pictures show the model primed. It is already painted white, but I ran out of white paint, and there are still a few small spots that are not perfectly white... :cry
    I should receive new paint on Tuesday.

    Those tubes you see in the top of the saucer are for stability reasons. The kit came that way.
    Although I am now thinking I should have removed them. With the top saucer glued to the ring of the bottom half, the saucer section should be strong enough without them.

    Tim
     
  47. Hand Solo

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    <div class='quotetop'></div>
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    Another 'Ruck-ism' is born. :D
     
  48. Duck9000

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    <div class='quotetop'>(captjustc @ May 22 2006, 05:03 AM) [snapback]1248414[/snapback]</div>
    Lighting will be a nice addition to this model
     
  49. Kuhn Global

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    I don't know where to begin with this...

    It is a piece I have wanted done accurately since WOK was released.

    I cannot wait to see your finished product..
     
  50. clancampbell

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    My fave trek ship ever. And it looks like this build will be unbelievable.
    Kudos man.
    Rich
     

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