The Stormtrooper Helmet Tree Thread

[VaderArmor]

I normally collect Star Trek items and just now getting into Star Wars with my first preorder of 2 limited edition Vader helmets from efx.

I want to get the most accurate Stormtrooper costume currently "out there"
and would like to know if any out there have ties to a screen used helmet and suit, no reworking.

I often hear about TE, TE2, AP and others and was wondering if anyone can explain the lineage of these in better detail.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

No reworking? You'd want the SiMan suit, unless he decided to rework his.

TE, TE2, AP, GINO, pretty much all else ANH armor is reverse engineered from RotJ armor. The armor, not the helmets.

For RotJ armor you can go for the CFO armor.

I doubt you'll find any armor that hasn't been reworked in some way to refine molds, sharpness and shapes.

 

[VaderArmor]

Ok better put the most accurate ANH armor?

 

[VaderArmor]

Where does ainsworth's helmet and suit fit in? His site claims they are from the studio molds if not mistaking, are those reworked?
I contacted Andrew and he can't sell to the US which sucks for me but just wondering if its accurate.

 

[MrGzilla]

Where does ainsworth's helmet and suit fit in? His site claims they are from the studio molds if not mistaking, are those reworked?
I contacted Andrew and he can't sell to the US which sucks for me but just wondering if its accurate.

STAY AWAY FROM AINSWORTH!
do a quick serch on here and youll find plenty of reasons why so im not even going to go there.

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Ok better put the most accurate ANH armor?

Depending on how it turns out when it is finally showcased there is only one: SiMan's armor.

And yes, stay away from Ainsworth. You don't want to waste your money with him.

 

[Treadwell]

Depending on how it turns out when it is finally showcased there is only one: SiMan's armor.

And yes, stay away from Ainsworth. You don't want to waste your money with him.

Indeed, but it would still be interesting to see where it falls on this "tree" nevertheless.

 

[KaanE]

I don't know where in the tree but in what tree, this one:

 

[Too Much Garlic]

Ainsworth's armor? From what I've heard it falls below even the GF armor but costs a heck of a lot more. Have no idea about the helmet. I'm sure other more knowledgeable people could chime in on that.

 

[CatfoodRob]

Surely contacting TrooperMaster in the U.K. is the sure fire way of getting dead screen accurate anh armour ?

 

[JoeR]

Agreed at present TM is offering by far the most accurate to screen ANH helmet and armour. You can find him on FISD.

ALL other ANH armour available right now is reworked ROTJ and not even close to what you see on screen.

Joe

 

[KaanE]

Could you guys explain me who TM is and what makes his armour better than the others avaiable.

@JoeR, you say the others are RotJ based, but if I'm not wrong there is not in production yet any ANH casted armour, one ANH was found a little time ago, but before that, nothing, so it looks like you're saying the TM armour is casted from the ANH armour?

 

[JoeR]

No KaanE I said that at present TM is the most accurate available, it is from a fan sculpt not cast from an original suit. The Si-Man suit is not yet available.

Go to FISD and look at the numerous TM build ups and you can see for yourself. TM has all the details that are missing on other ROTJ based suits, there are far too many to mention. Have a look....

Here is Stukatroopers 1mm TM build up on LSD. Take a look....

http://www.elitestormtrooper.com/t27-my-2010-tm-1mm

Helmet has the tear detail and correct shape
Clam shell parts but against each other with cover strips and not overlap like ROTJ
Ab plate has correct detail
Shoulder bells are not ROTJ shape
Shins are correct shape
etc etc etc

 

[KaanE]

I really love the TM armour so don't get me wrong, but it's hard to beleive that a fanmade armour could be more accurate than a reworked RotJ armour. I'm not a stormie expert so I don't really know but it's hard to beleive.

 

[JoeR]

I really love the TM armour so don't get me wrong, but it's hard to beleive that a fanmade armour could be more accurate than a reworked RotJ armour. I'm not a stormie expert so I don't really know but it's hard to beleive.

I know what you are saying but here is a picture of a TM helmet next to the original Si-Man ANH helmet. TM has a crazy eye for detail and a vast knowledge of the original suits.

 

[KaanE]

I can see the diferences but it's awesome how much detail has been put on the TM helmet, I can believe about the armour being the same.

 

[GINO]

The TM helmet is a recast.
The TM armor is a ROTJ recast that was reworked and sold to the public as an 'original' sculpture (which is a complete falsehood).


Without question the most accurate helmet available would be mine.

Here's a pic.

More pics of the V3 HDPE here:
http://www.therpf.com/f9/my-v3-hdpe-trooper-helmet-finished-see-post-207-a-98364/


and more pics of the V2 here:
http://www.therpf.com/f13/v2-gloss-hips-v3-hdpe-trooper-helmet-kits-sale-86309/


Kits of both are available here:
http://www.therpf.com/f13/v2-gloss-hips-v3-hdpe-trooper-helmet-kits-sale-86309/



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[JoeR]

Hve you guys seen a TM in person next to a GINO or a TE?

The above is a nice replica but quite far from the originals in my opinion and suffers from a few major issues, kink detail has been added to the tubes after I pointed it out on here a while back, tear detail removed and other alterations to the molds by TE years ago.

The guage of the plastic is too thin (ask Si-Man and he can clarify this) and lastly there is no actual proof that the originals were HDPE, it has just been assumed and taken as fact.

The Si-Man will be far and away the most accurate helmet and armour if it is molded correctly.

 

[GF]

I agree 100%, no way a fan made sculpt can be more accurate then a reworked ROTJ, too many assymetries and subtle shape and wonkiness which can't be perfectly reproduced by a fan sculpt.

GFollano

 

[KaanE]

The guage of the plastic is too thin (ask Si-Man and he can clarify this) and lastly there is no actual proof that the originals were HDPE, it has just been assumed and taken as fact.

So you say the original helmets were not HDPE?