TOS Phaser
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I was working on my next "Practical Phaser Gun" poster and was gathering up all of my Greg Jein (GJ) P1 reference photos from the TPZ last night and glanced at one of the last scanner photos of the right side view of the GJ P2on a red background...
Photo source the TPZ - it was genius - the scanner yields an architectural "elevation photo" - - Did Dennis take these?
And BAM - I realized the Hero P1 currently on the GJ P2 was the Scot P1 - the twin* of the "Nona" P1 but with Velcro on the left side! * shape and thickness
As some of you know I posted a thread about there originally being 2 B&W Hero ("practical") P1s with Velcro on the left side. I even posted (in another thread) the scene from episode 6, "The Man Trap" where Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock both have Hero P2s hanging on their gold pistol belts! (The Spock P2 and the Scot P2) - - I will post the link in a reply ASAP
It was accepted on the TPZ that the following P2 from episode 8, "Charlie X" was the GJ P2:
And if you don't believe it (and the close up photos that robn1 posted on another thread) then perhaps the following photo taken my Gen1 Apple iPad will convince you:
As you can see in this "retinal" display image closeup - it is as robn1 said in his post - the left side of the P2 sight window was not on the GJ P2 body for this scene.
So what exactly am I saying here?
When the "redshirt" on the left walks into the gym wearing the GJ P2 on his gold pistol belt the B&W P1 (with Velcro) that is in the GJ P2 in that scene is not the Hero P1 currently on Greg's P2!
Look at the difference between the two Hero P1s - the shape and the thickness:
This side by side photo of the GJ P2 as it is now and the B&W Hero GJ P2 as it was in episode 8, "Charlie X" clearly shows the P1s are not the same. And both P1s have/had Velcro on the left side!
For the purposes of my book I named each B&W P2 so that I could keep track of them through episodes: 5,6,7 and 8 when I was trying to determine which "Practical Phaser Gun" was which in Season 1.
And IMO - the Hero P1 currently on the GJ P2 was the Hero P1 that was filmed on the Scot P2 (the "Riley/Lenore" after Wah Ming Chang "reworked" them) in episode 6, "The Man Trap" on Captain Kirk's gold pistol belt.
I contend that there were two B&W Hero P1s with Velcro on the left side. The Sulu P1 and the Scot P1.
(1) The Sulu P1 was approximately the same thickness and shape as the Spock P1 (the "TMOST" P1). Whenever Mr. Spock wore his Hero P2 on his gold pistol belt - in episodes 5 and 6 - the Sulu P1 with Velcro on the left side was inserted.
(2) The Scot P1 was approximately the same size and shape as the Kirk P1 (the "Nona" P1). When Captain Kirk wore the Scot P2 on his gold pistol belt in episode 6, "The Man Trap" - the Scot P1 with Velcro on the left side was inserted.
The following photos of the "Finney" P2 with the "TMOST" P1 inserted and the "Unknown" P2 with the "Nona" P1 inserted will hopefully help to back up points (1) and (2) of my theory:
"Finney" P2 with the "TMOST" P1
"Unknown" P2 with the "Nona" P1
You can see the Nona Hero P1 in the Unknown P2 is not as thick as the TMOST P1 in the Finney P2.
The following photos compare the P1 in the current Greg Jein to the "Nona" P1 in the "Unknown" P2 and then the P1 in the GJ P2 in "Charlix X" to the "TMOST" P1 in the "Finney" P2:
Do you see how similar the two P2s with Velcro are to the two P2s without Velcro?
So to summarize my theory: Walter M. Jefferies ("Matt") and the Desilu Studios "effects department" made two sets of "practical P1 phaser guns" before filming of Season 1 began. Each set had one B&W Hero P1 for carry and another twin B&W Hero P1 for firing in the same P2 when the left side needed to be shown.
So if I am correct - the Scot P1 with Velcro - the twin of the "Nona" P1 without Velcro is currently in the GJ P2.
Photo source the TPZ - it was genius - the scanner yields an architectural "elevation photo" - - Did Dennis take these?
And BAM - I realized the Hero P1 currently on the GJ P2 was the Scot P1 - the twin* of the "Nona" P1 but with Velcro on the left side! * shape and thickness
As some of you know I posted a thread about there originally being 2 B&W Hero ("practical") P1s with Velcro on the left side. I even posted (in another thread) the scene from episode 6, "The Man Trap" where Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock both have Hero P2s hanging on their gold pistol belts! (The Spock P2 and the Scot P2) - - I will post the link in a reply ASAP
It was accepted on the TPZ that the following P2 from episode 8, "Charlie X" was the GJ P2:
And if you don't believe it (and the close up photos that robn1 posted on another thread) then perhaps the following photo taken my Gen1 Apple iPad will convince you:
As you can see in this "retinal" display image closeup - it is as robn1 said in his post - the left side of the P2 sight window was not on the GJ P2 body for this scene.
So what exactly am I saying here?
When the "redshirt" on the left walks into the gym wearing the GJ P2 on his gold pistol belt the B&W P1 (with Velcro) that is in the GJ P2 in that scene is not the Hero P1 currently on Greg's P2!
Look at the difference between the two Hero P1s - the shape and the thickness:
This side by side photo of the GJ P2 as it is now and the B&W Hero GJ P2 as it was in episode 8, "Charlie X" clearly shows the P1s are not the same. And both P1s have/had Velcro on the left side!
For the purposes of my book I named each B&W P2 so that I could keep track of them through episodes: 5,6,7 and 8 when I was trying to determine which "Practical Phaser Gun" was which in Season 1.
And IMO - the Hero P1 currently on the GJ P2 was the Hero P1 that was filmed on the Scot P2 (the "Riley/Lenore" after Wah Ming Chang "reworked" them) in episode 6, "The Man Trap" on Captain Kirk's gold pistol belt.
I contend that there were two B&W Hero P1s with Velcro on the left side. The Sulu P1 and the Scot P1.
(1) The Sulu P1 was approximately the same thickness and shape as the Spock P1 (the "TMOST" P1). Whenever Mr. Spock wore his Hero P2 on his gold pistol belt - in episodes 5 and 6 - the Sulu P1 with Velcro on the left side was inserted.
(2) The Scot P1 was approximately the same size and shape as the Kirk P1 (the "Nona" P1). When Captain Kirk wore the Scot P2 on his gold pistol belt in episode 6, "The Man Trap" - the Scot P1 with Velcro on the left side was inserted.
The following photos of the "Finney" P2 with the "TMOST" P1 inserted and the "Unknown" P2 with the "Nona" P1 inserted will hopefully help to back up points (1) and (2) of my theory:
"Finney" P2 with the "TMOST" P1
"Unknown" P2 with the "Nona" P1
You can see the Nona Hero P1 in the Unknown P2 is not as thick as the TMOST P1 in the Finney P2.
The following photos compare the P1 in the current Greg Jein to the "Nona" P1 in the "Unknown" P2 and then the P1 in the GJ P2 in "Charlix X" to the "TMOST" P1 in the "Finney" P2:
Do you see how similar the two P2s with Velcro are to the two P2s without Velcro?
So to summarize my theory: Walter M. Jefferies ("Matt") and the Desilu Studios "effects department" made two sets of "practical P1 phaser guns" before filming of Season 1 began. Each set had one B&W Hero P1 for carry and another twin B&W Hero P1 for firing in the same P2 when the left side needed to be shown.
So if I am correct - the Scot P1 with Velcro - the twin of the "Nona" P1 without Velcro is currently in the GJ P2.