The Odd Quest for Perfection (long read)

Jedi2016

Sr Member
An odd thing happened to me the other day, as I was digging around looking at stuff online. Specifically, in regards to my "holy grail" prop, the Atlantean Sword from Conan the Barbarian.

As most of you probably know, there are two versions of this sword available out there. There's the one from Albion, which is, for lack of a better word, perfect. The blade is a near-exact duplicate of the original, the runes are etched using the same electrodes as the original, the hilts are even pulled from the same molds as the original. I almost hesitate to call it a "replica", it's more like simply another copy of the sword made for the film, in addition to the original three (of which only one survives).

But, at nearly three thousand dollars, it's quite simply out of reach for me. So the upside is near-100% accuracy, the downside is the cost. I say "near"-100% because the blade's distal taper was changed slightly, and the bronze hilts of the original have an "aged" look from sitting around for twenty-five years that I think adds a lovely touch of realism to what is otherwise just a movie prop.

Then there's the version by Marto. At first glance, it may appear to be identical to the Albion. But on closer inspection, it's noted that most of the small details are slightly off. All of the detail is there, it's just not quite right. A curvy bit here might be a little different, the scales on the dragon heads are in a different pattern, the runes are cut a little differently, little things like that. I liken it to a very well-made fan replica.. "close but not exact".

So with this one, the advantages and disadvantages are reversed from the Albion. Accuracy is down a notch, but the price is significantly cheaper. Well within my means with a few weeks of saving up and maybe pawning off some older props from my collection (keep an eye on the Junkyard).

Now here's where the odd things comes into play. I look at the Marto, and I think to myself that it's not an exact replica, it's not really what I want. That it's just not good enough, despite the fact that I could have the thing in my hands in just a few short weeks, this sword that I've sought after for decades.

What's odd about it is that, if this were any other replica, I wouldn't care. Think about it, folks... how many of us actually have anything in our collection that's truly 100% accurate? Very few of us, I would imagine. Even lightsabers from Master Replicas, no matter how "close" they may be, are still idealized to an extent. Small imperfections fixed, made to look like a perfect, brand-new prop, etc. And the majority of us are quite happy with it like this, including me. I have a Larbel Obi-Wan TPM lightsaber that's no doubt woefully inaccurate. Not the least of which is the gaping hole in the emitter. But from the day I bought it, I said to myself "I love this saber, and I'll never get rid of it.", which I hold true to this day. I have a gold-plated Gladiator sword, that I can see inaccuracies on even from a distance when compared to the screen-used prop, yet I've always been happy with it (I'll be trying to sell it soon, but not because I'm not happy with it, simply because I could use the money, and it's never been one of my "prize" props).

We all have props like that. Close but not perfect. More often than not, it's "good enough" for us, and we spend our money and are happy with what we receive.

So why am I thinking that this Marto Conan sword, which is certainly "close" to the original, such a let-down for me? I'm being nitpicky to the extreme, and I know it. Despite the fact that I'm almost certainly going to buy it, I know I'll never be truly happy with it. It'll almost be like a placeholder on the wall until I can afford an Albion in some distant time. Why is that? Is it because it's my "holy grail" prop? Is that level of perfection required for that one prop that we covet above all others?

Does anyone else feel this way sometimes? Do your searches for your "holy grail" prop wind up the same way? Disappointed by something that's damn close to the original, but not quite perfect? I just want to know I'm not crazy.. lol.
 
Settling for second best isn't easy, especially in an accuracy-crazed hobby like ours.

If you know you won't be happy with the lesser replica, why not just save up and wait a bit longer for the thing you really want?
 
Dear Jedi2016,

I went down this same dark path with wanting a Pulse Rifle years ago.

My wife bought me the resin ICONS version and although it was amazing, it just had problems. And the more I looked at it, the more the clay in the vent holes and clay in the SPAS cage bothered me.

I ended up selling it and buying an SD Studios kit. Bought all the parts. Even found a SPAS cage and had someone who knew what they were doing make the cuts.

In the long run, it would have been cheaper to have bought a completed one from Steve way back when. And it took me about 4+ years to finish it. Got burned out and took a looooooong break. And the finish isn't quite as nice as the SD finished examples I've seen. But every time I see a Pulse Rifle, I can't help but look at the kit and decide, at least with this prop, for me, the money, time and energy were worth it.

So whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best. And I hope you share some pictures with us.

Ted.
Prefect42.
 
On something like this, where you KNOW you will be looking at it day in and day out....

Save your cash for a long time and get the one thats the cost of a used car.

I went nearly blind trying to get the details right on my SR crystal. There are still little things that I want to change and alter, but I know the company I work with would call me insane if I asked em to shave off 1mm on a particular facet. Shortly after that they would stop dealing with me all together :lol

When something just "isn't right" it will nag you until your soul has a canker on it and the only thing you can see when you look at said project is not the "AWESOME... PROP...", it's the little tiny horrible details that JUST DON'T LOOK RIGHT. They will annoy you until you die or you sell the prop.

Personally, I am a pretty laid back collector. If it can be noticed by the general masses of people as to what it is, I am pretty happy. Some stuff though, I just have to either get perfection or sell after a while due to just being annoyed with it.

If you REALLY love this prop and it is your holy grail, save your pennies and buy it. Otherwise, you are setting yourself up for a very long haul of "what could have been".

Good luck though. I have seen both examples you are talking about, and either one would make a terrific addition to a collection.

Chris
 
I learned a long time ago, with myself, do what makes me happy.

If it's 100% accurate, 95% accurate, or only 80% accurate- if I'm happy with it than that's good enough for me.
 
Are you crazy?

I think all collectors are a little crazy. I know I can be incredibly obsessive about certain pieces. My holy grail is the TOS phaser. I've owned several over the years but none are really perfect. I'm still searching.

Good luck on your quest.

Just remember... this is supposed to be fun.
 
Thats rough. You won't be happy with the less accurate one though. I have the same problem with E11s. I've owned two replicas, and sold both. At this point I'm just going to wait until I have enough money & time to tackle a real sterling & real parts. Its a hard decision, but when I nit-pick every detail of it I know that even a real conversion will have a hard time meeting my desires. I'd sooner wait a couple years to get to it instead of settle for something that I'll sell in a year when I grow tired of its inaccuracy.
 
Mike:

"Follow your bliss"

No greater words were ever said, and I´m doing my best to live by them. Do not settle for anything less than your bliss. Ever.

Your friend,

Hermes.
 
If it's a "Holy Grail" piece, I personnaly would not settle for second best given a choice. I would do what it takes to save, borrow, whatever, to get the better one. Get a second job, take a loan, eat raimen noodles every day for a year, whatever it takes.

Re-read your post, it's obvious you won't be happy with the cheaper version.
 
You're not crazy - just a perfectionist.
My wife tells me, 'You're never happy with anything you buy, there's always something wrong with it, even if it's just a tiny detail.'
She's right of course. :lol
I recently received the MR Enterprise, a holy grail I've wanted since I was a little boy (some 35 odd years ago) and when it arrived I nit-picked it.
It's not perfect, it has a few issues that I'll try and fix myself. I'm not going through the trouble of sending it back and waiting for a replacement which upon arrival, may have more severe issues.
100% perfect's not for real, unless you build it yourself and break your neck doing so.
 
What's odd is that I'm a perfectionist only on this ONE item.

For example... there's a bunch of the other Conan sword on Ebay right now, the "Father's Sword". They're crappy twenty-dollar knockoffs, look like copies of the Marto, or factory rejects or something. And I'll probably end up getting one. And I'll probably be satisfied with it (poor build quality aside, but as long as it doesn't rattle, I'll probably be happy).

So, two swords from the same movie. One that I'll buy crappy for twenty frikkin' bucks, and one that I'd probably still be nitpicky about even at three thousand. Maybe I am crazy.. lol.

I'm not asking about whether I should buy the lesser one. Doing so would not dissuade me from later purchasing the greater. I'm more wondering if anyone else has this same sort of "duality", where we have certain prop(s) that must be absolutely perfect, while we let others "slide by" with inaccuracies.
 
It's not being nitpicky if it's the one true prop that you most desire. Most of us have a "we'd have to be hungry before I'd sell it" prop, and it's the one that we want the most accurate. Sure, we have many, but the one "grail" prop is the one we want to be "perfect".

Unfortunately perfection comes at a cost, most of us just can't either justify, or afford....the latter probably being the popular one.

I'd say, get the one you can afford until the day you might be able to swing (excuse the punn) the "perfect" one :thumbsup
 
I was looking through the TARGET ads in the paper today. We need to replace our DVD player and I was looking for sales. Came across the toy section and new instantly, at a glance, that the cheap $20 lightsaber with "flick your wrist and the plastic pipes will extend to make a blade" version they are selling is the ROTS Anikan saber. Mentioned this to my wife and she gave me one of THOSE looks.

I see your point about being a perfectionist about just one or two items. I'm perfectly happy with most of my collection which varies from "just okay and looks good when squinting" to MR fare. But the Pulse Rifle and Deckard's Blade Runner blaster are my two "MUST HAVE THE PERFECT-ALL DETAILS RIGHT ON THE MONEY" version. Other ones are fun to look at but for me, as others have pointed out, all I eventually see are the inaccuracies.

So like many have said here, sure, most of us in this hobby are crazy. Embrace it, says I.

And like Monster Collector said, reread your first post...

Happy collecting.

Ted.
Prefect42.
 
Wow, it's crazy you just posted this. I came on looking just for this subject. I was looking through old threads on matsucorp last night and there was one about the conan marto swords.
I then put in the conan dvd and while it played I looked through ebay and other sites. I found the Marto, the cheap version and an article about the albion.
The Albion is just too much, I'm going with the Marto. And I was thinking of getting a cheap Atlantian and making a broken blade version.

Too answer your question I think what you will settle for changes from item to item with each person. And for me that level of intrest is always fluctuating to different subjects.

If you spend $200 on something that is less than what you want instead of the $1000. Your not saving $800, your wasting $200.

Steven
 
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