The name's Bond, James Bond, I'll have a Heineken...

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  1. Sluis Van Shipyards

    Sluis Van Shipyards Master Member

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  2. Wes R

    Wes R Legendary Member

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    They're selling out to the lowest common denominator. Suave isn't in, next he'll be dressing like a stoner or Larry the Cable Guy. Just another reason i have given up on the franchise.
     
  3. Sundowner

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    saaaaayyyy whhhhhaaaaaat?! I swear if he orders J├Ągerbombs, I'm outta there.
     
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  4. WarPig

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    And why Heineken? Why not a Guinness or a microbrew?
     
  5. SmilingOtter

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    Even the most interesting man in the world doesn't order Dos Equis every time.
     
  6. Wes R

    Wes R Legendary Member

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    Heineken pays really good money to be in movies, they were in at least one of the Austin Powers movies too. I bet his gun changed because of how much the company is paying along with why the car changed. It's all about who will pay for product placement.
     
  7. Rylo

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    That's because he collects props, now.

    "I don't always collect props, but when I do I prefer, Rylo's"

    [​IMG]

     
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  8. darthgordon

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    I honestly don't see it as a big deal. Bond has drank a lot of drinks over the years. He's not exclusive the vodka martini. Yes, it's product placement... but there's also been a lot of product placement in Bond movies over the years... Aston Martin, BMW, Absolut, Smirnoff, Norelco...
     
  9. Apollo

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    You mean the franchise is still breathing? ;)


     
  10. Solo4114

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    Here's what I mind. Bond is supposed to be a bon vivant. He drinks martinis and Vespers and such because he likes the finer things in life. It's what soothes him, given that his job is to kill people for a living and that weighs on you.

    Why, in that case, would he drink swill like Heineken?
     
  11. aeonpulse

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    Wow. I wonder what other product placement will be featured in Skyfall?

    Oooooh, I got it. Right before sealing the deal with one of the very sexy ladies he's managed to seduce, Bond will look into the camera, hold up a Trojan condom and whisper, "As a double-oh agent, I need all the protection I can get. And when it comes to condoms, there's only one brand I trust... Trojan condoms." Then, as the camera pans away and fades to black, in the distance we'll be able to hear a faint, but deep voice cry, "Tro-jan Maaaaaaaaaannnnnn!"
     
  12. Michael Bergeron

    Michael Bergeron Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Roger Moore never ordered a Martini in any of his Bond films, I don't see it as a big deal. It'll be like the Ford placement in CR, one scene and then we move back to the proper stuff I'm sure.
     
  13. Sundowner

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    Maybe he breaks a Heineken bottle over a villian's head. OR the villain makes Bond drink a Heineken as torture. Personally i see a real evil baddie serving a Zima at room tempature, ya know a real *.
     
  14. aeonpulse

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    And while brushing his teeth before going to bed, he'll pick up his tube of toothpaste and suddenly bellow out, "CREST! With tartar control!"
     
  15. Probe Droid

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    In the books, Bond mostly drinks bourbon.
     
  16. Dave Ward

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    Meh, they love to get people riled up about this stuff, the Torygraph will be raving about the movie when it comes out, I'm sure. Remember all the "blond bond" nonsense?

    There's also need reason to think he doesn't drink martinis, just because at some point in the film a bottle of heineken appears.
     
  17. Solo4114

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    True. But he didn't drink crappy, watered down lagers.
     
  18. JoMamma_Smurf

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    He drove a Ford in Casino Royale. He drank some unknown beer in quantum at the bar in Brazil. He drove BMW's. He's switched watches, guns and other crap throughout the years... Who cares if he drinks a Hiney.
     
  19. Sundowner

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    Speaking of changes, I personally really dig Daniel Craig but I would have loved to see Idris Elba take on the tux as Bond. If you can't embrace changes you will never advance.
     
  20. Solo4114

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    That would certainly cut in favor of the "James Bond is a code name" theory.
     
  21. Sluis Van Shipyards

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    Since I haven't seen either of the newer movies, my point stands! :lol ;)

    It's like Santa Claus suddenly appearing with a sleigh pulled by donkeys!
     
  22. Sundowner

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    Yes that would. I kind of always liked the theory but I can't think of a time where Bond referenced an incident under a different Bond actor
     
  23. Michael Bergeron

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    Roger Moore lays flowers at the grave of his former wife at the beginning of FYEO, whom George Lazenby married.

    Speaking of George, in the scene where he's packing up to leave the service he pulls some memories out of his desk, Sean Connery memories. ;)

    And once again, ROGER MOORE NEVER ONCE ORDERED A MARTINI.

    It's not the end of the world folks.
     
  24. micdavis

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    XXX orders one for him in The Spy Who Loved Me. What was her drink?
     
  25. Mr_Creepy

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    At the beginning of OHMSS Lazenby quips, "This never happened to the other fella."

     
  26. WarPig

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    Ever hear the Christmas tune "Dominick the Donkey"? I rest my case :lol

    My comment about the beer was a joke; of *course* it's all about ad revenue. Then again, considering that a fresh-opened Heineken smells like a skunk that just delivered its payload, maybe it's a secret weapon from Q used to clear out a room... :lol
     
  27. robn1

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    I do, because Hiney sucks :lol
    Connery, Lazenby and Moore all tangled with Blofeld.
     
  28. rodneyfaile

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  29. rodneyfaile

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    The new Vesper Martini will use Heineken instead of vermouth or Lillet.

    I don't care if he has a Keurig machine mounted in a Fiat 500 Abarth, I still want to see this movie!

    Wonder if he likes Coke or Pepsi? lol
     
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  30. Dave Ward

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    I didn't realise there was such a hatred for that beer here! Not that I'm disagreeing, but I've have put it at the bottom end of the middle shelf of beers. Not a microbrew, but not dredge like Rolling Rock or Coors light.
     
  31. Sundowner

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    hahaha agreed. I dont much care for most of the regular beers (coors, miller, bud..etc). I like the fancy beers that cost twice as much and have obscure names (Gumball Head, Magic Hat). But I'm NOT a beer snob :lol
     
  32. cboath

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    I heard that was going to be subplot in the next Abrahms trek - The villain gets half the crew to like pepsi and the other half to like coke and they're fighting amongst themselves over it and have to overcome that before being able to defeat the bad guy.

    Classic divide and conquer story line :)

    It's actually one of the things that boggles the mind. If you want your product featured in a movie, you pay the producers to have it placed in a scene or scenes. However, if a movie or tv show wants to use someone's song to illustrate a scene - you pay them to give them free publicity. Makes no sense.
     
  33. Alan Cross

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    He never acted in any of his Bond films either.
     
  34. Michael Bergeron

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    Yes, but she ordered it, not him. I guess she's more Bond than Roger Moore was. :lol

    A tip of the hat to the audience, completely negated by him remembering Connery's missions in the later scene. ;)

    :lol

    I liked The Spy who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only but by in large, ya, not a Moore fan.
     
  35. WarPig

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    Aw, c'mon! Rolling Rock (and Bud) are nice breakfast beers! :lol
     
  36. Goonie

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    Should have Bond drinkin' Colt 45!
     
  37. ixtore

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    When they made the decision to use Craig as Bond they loosened things up quite a bit. He still likes the finer things, but he is totally mission oriented and driven. The films used to have a high gloss international feel, jet hopping from exquisite location to more exquisite location. QOS took place in a lot of backwater locals. Beer for Bond? I think for this one, yes. (Though he could have gone for a British brand).
     
  38. Jeyl

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    Bond: Vodka Martini.
    Barttender: Shaken or stirred?
    Bond: Do I look like I give a *?

    I don't think Bond gives a dang what other people think he drinks.
     
  39. Sundowner

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    I loved that scene!
     
  40. Solo4114

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    Seriously! Get that man a Taddy Porter!


    Actually don't, since it'll probably make it more expensive and harder for me to find.
     
  41. rodneyfaile

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    At least it's not Bud Light Platinum.

    I would figure Bond for a Guinness.
     
  42. ixtore

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    "I'll have a Heineken, room temperature, not chilled. "
     
  43. TheDoctor

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    Not exactly, but in Die Another Day Brosnan asks Cleese if the gadgets used in the older movies still work.

    I like the idea - aways given to an orphan with no family or friends.

    Maybe Bond wasn't lying when M asks if the woman murdered at the beech house "knew his name"...
     
  44. Dave Ward

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    Bond experts may correct me, but supposedly Ian Fleming was quite modern in his approach to detailing products, recipes, cuts of suit, etc. It's an interesting technique (think Brett Easton Ellis' American Psycho). But there's a world of difference between that, and tacky paid-for shots of Perriere trucks.

    That said, Smirnoff Vodka is one of my tipples of choice, and that's entirely due to the influence of Bond (and Richey Edwards from the Manic Street Preachers).
     
  45. Wakeem

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    That line was after Bond started the whole thing with the martini and he was * off.

    Anyway, I hope the article is a guessing at things. I can't believe for the 50th anniversary that Bond would order a Heineken over a vodka martini. The train scene with the Omega over Rolex reference was bad enough. Things were cooler when they would just show the watch on screen.
     
  46. ixtore

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    Yes. That obvious verbal plug for Omega (as if Bond would ever wear one) really pulled me out of the movie. What happened to the plugs of old days, as in Goldfinger, when the Kentuky Fried Chicken bucket was Felix Leiter's backdrop?
     
  47. Sundowner

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    Ok funny story involving Bond's drink of choice...So I went on a first date last night to a martini bar. She encouraged me to try a martini, so being a movie buff I asked the lady for a Vesper and explained what was in it. She pops up and exclaims "oh the James Bond martini!" announcing it to everyone in the bar. Now I don't get embarrassed very often but I was red faced for sure. Long story short...I should have had a Heineken.
     
  48. Solo4114

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    Forgot to touch on this, but yeah, they have. The opening sequence of Live and Let Die has Bond visiting his wife Tracy's grave after the gunbarrel sequence. Meaning Lazenby's wife was Moore's wife.

    And again, in For Your Eyes Only, the opening sequence features Moore dispatching "Blofeld" (who isn't actually named in the sequence, but is a wheelchair-bound guy who, I think, is bald).

    Oddly, Diamonds Are Forever prominently features Blofeld (played by Charles Gray, who previously played a diplomatic attache in You Only Live Twice), and COMPLETELY ignores the events of On Her Majesty's Secret Service.


    Bottom line: they've played pretty fast and loose with the continuity for this stuff. Some of that, I think, may have to do with the rights battle with Kevin McClory, though.
     
  49. Michael Bergeron

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    These are both in FYEO. But ya, those plus the "remembering past missions" scene in OHMSS say to me that it's the same guy.
     
  50. Michael Bergeron

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    No it doesn't, the opening sequence is Bond "questioning" people on where to find Blofeld so that he can get his revenge.
     

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