Question The name of this forum

Discussion in 'Site Support & News' started by Jehudah Design, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. Jehudah Design

    Jehudah Design Well-Known Member

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    I know the previous URL therpf.com got stolen by some * hacker and that the guys controlling this place wanted it to be known as simply The RPF...

    But I wonder WHY?

    Whats the point in removing any reference to what RPF stands for and only using that acronym as the name of the forum when it still stands for The Replica Prop Forum? Now you already got the new URL with the full name, so in any case that you won't get the old one back, why not call the forum the full name again? How the fudge are new members supposed to know what RPF stands for anyway? Are they supposed to guess what this forum is about? Really pretty females? Red peacock feathers? Random person's feet? Or what?

    Just thought I'd ask the reason before renaming my website to DSSL and watching T2JD while making a WSFZWCD.
     
  2. Roland

    Roland Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Is that NOT the meaning of RPF? I've been suspecting it: I'm in the wrong place here! And I always wondered, where all the chicks are! :confused



    :D:D:D:D
     
  3. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    Interesting that you brought this up as we have been talking about this very thing, so let me give you a couple of my personal thoughts...

    We have been known as "The Replica Prop Forum" for a great many years (although we haven't always been known by that name). At the end of 2006, the RPF moved to therpf.com and has been there ever since and most people refer to the site as "the RPF" as opposed to saying the full name.

    When I came in around the end of 2009, I looked at the site, where it has been and where it is going, and what I see is that "Replica Prop Forum" really doesn't properly describe us any longer. While I am a little hesitant to make the connection, it is similar to Kentucky Fried Chicken changing their name to KFC in order to downplay the word "fried." We no longer only pander to replicas. We no longer only pander to props. Pretty soon we will no longer only be a forum. What does that mean? As I said earlier, "Replica Prop Forum" doesn't really describe us any longer. From the end of 2009 on, you have seen an active and conscious push by the staff to go from referring to us as "The Replica Prop Forum" to "the RPF." Even when we remade the logo, we purposefully went with "RPF." Honestly, if I could do it without being tarred and feathered, we would change the site name all-together... but after the whole Junkyard-Marketplace fiasco, I haven't pushed it. We use the RPF because we feel that The Replica Prop Forum doesn't appropriately describe us and we don't want the name to box us in any more than necessary.

    Fast-forward to the hacking incident. We fully expect to get therpf.com back and when we do, we will move back to that URL. I absolutely HATE being at therpf.com. Not only is it painfully long (23 characters) but it just reinforces an outdated description of who we are. IF, by a lack of cooperation from the Russian registrar, we don't get therpf.com back, we will NOT be staying at the current URL and we will rename the site as a whole to something that better suits the thriving community we have become. It would be painful, but it would be better than staying at the current url.

    Anyway, hopefully that answers your question as to why we tend to shy away from the full name.



     
  4. Roland

    Roland Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    What's with other TLD's? "therpf.org" and "therpf.info" are still free.

    My question is: after the forum has been given another main domain, will it still be accessible under "therpf.com"? I'm asking, because I always use permanent links to attached image files to let them be visible in full size. Example: if you delete "therpf.com", the following image will still be available as attached file, but no longer visible in full size.

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  5. Michael Bergeron

    Michael Bergeron Legendary Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Oh boy, you're asking for that Wolverine rage to be turned on you guys! :confused
     
  6. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    We would do 301 redirects, which we are going to have to do pretty much no matter what, even if we get therpf.com back.

     
  7. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    Hahahaha... we'll cross that bridge if we get there. My hope is that it is a non-issue because we simply get the old domain back and that is that.
     
  8. ONEYE

    ONEYE Sr Member

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    Curious. What does appropriately describe us if RPF doesn't?
     
  9. Sundowner

    Sundowner Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    We are more than a site or a name. We're a community and as long as we stay a community of like minded individuals, then I couldn't care less what we are called. Just my two cents. :thumbsup

     
  10. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    I wish I had an answer for that.

    Replica props are still the majority of what this site is about... no arguments there. I am not trying to shy away from the fact that it is the core and largest category... however, we are MORE than just props. While it isn't an appealing term, we have become more of a movie memorabilia site, which includes costumes, models, screen used props, etc. Since the introduction of licensees, we have also become as much of a collector site as a builder site. I know a lot of people don't like that fact, but like it or not, it is true.

    The term "prop" could be considered to encompass the bulk of what we do (as some consider ANYTHING used in a movie to fall under the term "prop") so I would think that any name would almost certainly have to incllude prop, but I'd love to see replica and forum go away, possibly being replaced by something else as those terms are very limiting while it seems this community is virtually without limits, within our niche.

    The other issue becomes one of technicality and SEO... therpf.com is 10 characters... pretty short for a domain name, but not as short as I would like (I am currently working on getting a 5 character domain name for myself!). It is tough to get an available and meaningful domain name that isn't less than 10 characters...
     
  11. ONEYE

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    Thanks. I wish I could come up with something smart, cool and unique that would work. Maybe a contest could help you?

    Memorabilia Creators Collectors

    It's tough to come up with something.
     
  12. Idaho Jones

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    Are you guys covered for other name variants, to keep away domain squatters?
     
  13. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    To a small degree. We have multiple other names registered if something were to happen (which is why we were able to switch over to this current url in so short a time). There is a lot of debate on whether or not to try to get every variant of your name. Up until this event we didn't even have therpf.net (a member picked it up and generously turned it over to us) because we haven't seen the need to do so. You could cost yourself thousands of dollars and drive yourself batty trying to cover all the name variations. What we have done instead is purchase multiple similar names that we could fall back to in a time of crisis.
     
  14. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    I have been racking my brain for 2 years on this and have never come up with anything that met all the criteria I wanted. To be quite honest, the issue with a contest is that if someone did come up with the PERFECT name, some opportunist would run out and snag the domain and then try to sell it to us at an inflated price... I have seen it happen over and over again. The only contest we could do like that would be to do a private entry type contest.
     
  15. ONEYE

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    Submissions via super secret PMs.

    I don't think perfect names exist, and of course, you will always have those 10% that don't like it.

    You could go the other way and pick something that will tick off everyone, or one that makes absolutely no sense at all.

    ;)
     
  16. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    And the .01% who will tell us how we are the devil and will never let it go...:lol:lol:lol

    The truth is, we fully expect to get therpf.com back and this won't even be an issue.
     
  17. Jehudah Design

    Jehudah Design Well-Known Member

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    "The We Create Just About Everything Forum" :D

    Or maybe the name could be the current name as a word "Therpf!"
     
  18. ONEYE

    ONEYE Sr Member

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    I'm a Therpf-er. People see me Therpf-ing, they be hating.
    I'm on the Therpf. (pronounced Thurpf)
     
  19. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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  20. Alan Castillo

    Alan Castillo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    You are quite right. The 'title' to my collection page on my website is "Movie Memorabilia", not prop replicas.

    I collect anything that is in some way connected to a movie I like, be it a physical prop (1:1 or scaled, it doesn't make a difference to me personally), a model or whatever.

    Heck, if a prop replica doesn't exist or I can't make it, I'll print a screencap of it & frame it :lol
     
  21. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    Alan, I think you are a model of our membership and what you said in your post really touches on how a lot of people feel. We don't just love props. We don't just love building things. Those are a large part of who we are, but we are much more than that and are passion is much deeper than that. It is actually hard for me to put into words, but I see that our members have a passion of the magic of the entertainment industry. It does so much more than just entertains us. It transports us and amazes us and many times we are consumed by it, if only for a little while. Whether it is the appreciation of the artform of that a certain scene evokes an emotional response from us or triggers a particular memory, entertainment media moves us and that is what sparks our passion for it. Why should we be so quick to limit ourselves or this community? I think about the success we have had with the Movie Discussion forum (thanks, as always to Mic Davis for pushing me to do that) and how it has given a more well defined venue for people to share their thoughts on how certain forms of entertainment make them feel. If we said "no, we are just a replica building forum" look at all the conversation we would have missed out on! There is now a greater depth to the community than ever before and I do think we should try to embrace that as much as possible, as you have done!
     
  22. Alan Castillo

    Alan Castillo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    What you said doesn't count if I don't get a gold star :lol

    Seriously though, I think what you said hits the nail on the head. It all boils down to what elicits an emotional response from the individual, and this varies greatly.

    I'll admit that when I first joined a few years ago, I could 'feel' alot of eyebrows being raised when I posted something that wasn't accurate or said something that would have been considered heresy by many 'hardcore' people :lol

    The most important thing (to me), is that I really didn't (and still don't) give a rat's posterior :lol

    It's not out of any disrespect to anyone though. It's just as so long as I am having fun and hurting nobody, I have the 'right' to collect and say what I want.

    I don't think there is a 'right' or 'wrong' benchmark for this hobby, infinite diversity in infinite combinations as our pointy-eared friend said.

    So long as the site welcomes all who are interested in the magic of movies, as it does, the name is irrelevant.
     
  23. Alan Castillo

    Alan Castillo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    ... and having said that, if you change the name of the site, I'll be amongst the first to grab a pitchfork :lol:lol:lol

    But that's because the name is now so embedded into me, it would be like becoming a vegetarian instead of enjoying a 2-inch thick steak on the BBQ though :lol
     
  24. Dung0beetle

    Dung0beetle Well-Known Member

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    This name gets my vote!
    Replica Enthusiasts, Collectors, And Sockpuppets Trooping. or R.E.C.A.S.T. for short.
     
  25. Jehudah Design

    Jehudah Design Well-Known Member

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    Point taken. The RPF really is better than "The Replica Prop And Costumes And Screen Used Props And Modeling And Studio Scaled Models Forum" or something else that wouldn't really fit either. What do you name a place where people build and collect EVERYTHING? Yes, The RPF!

    Hoping you get back the old URL then. Send Boba Fett to find the hackers and destroy them!
     
  26. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    hahahahahaha! OK, that is AWESOME! Let's go see if recast.com is available!!! :lol:lol:lol
     
  27. Alan Castillo

    Alan Castillo Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    ...... but for heaven's sake, not recasted.com though :lol
     
  28. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    propbuilders.com is available for $3200 and one of my favs, propfan.com is available for $6500...
     
  29. robn1

    robn1 Master Member

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    aa.com is taken :lol
     
  30. Bootlegger137

    Bootlegger137 Sr Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Appears aajr.com is also taken, as is artpf.com...but it looks like theartpf.com might still be available. ;)
     
  31. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    Hahaha...

    I can't imagine what aa.com would sell for. It would have to be in the hundreds of thousands.
     
  32. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    BTW, aa.com is 6 characters. The dot is considered a character.
     
  33. Roland

    Roland Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    A six characters domain can't be that expensive. Look at me: I own the domain "kel.de" - six characters! :p:D
     
  34. Art Andrews

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    6 characters that is based on a country code is about the only way to do it.. and congrats! That is a great url to have!
     
  35. EvilRocketeer

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    I think Tait owns that one :)
     
  36. Roland

    Roland Master Member RPF PREMIUM MEMBER

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    But I have no idea what I can do with it, so I offer it for sale. No one of my hobbies has a name, that could be abbreviated to those three letters.
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2012
  37. GDafi

    GDafi Sr Member

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    This forum is a community, some of us create great thing and share them others lurk, and learn, while still others like myself, visit everyday, interact with the rest of you, and just enjoy looking at what the others create, whilst wishing i had the confidence to really try to create something.

    At the end of the day, this place could be called, Doctors Smith's Bubble Headed Boobies, or The Real World Film And Television Buffs Copiers, or ay other name, I will still be here.:thumbsup
     
  38. Art Andrews

    Art Andrews Community Owner Community Staff

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    You know, from a marketing standpoint, adding "boobies" to the name would get us infinitely more traffic!!! LOL
     
  39. Rick Hanson

    Rick Hanson Sr Member

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    You should really grab hold of that idea and milk it for all it's worth.

    I am a bad man
     
  40. Garthok

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    Passionate Memorabilia Society?
    I would hate to see a name change as well, but I know from past experience, I'd get used to it as well. It will always have RPF in it's history and most likely it's own section anyway. I do agree with moving away from the word forum. I like the words memorabilia and community.
     
  41. Jehudah Design

    Jehudah Design Well-Known Member

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    I vote for THERPF! like my new avatar because if you can't find a new name that describes something, use a name that describes nothing! :p You can even use the same old URL in the end :thumbsup
     
  42. Miker

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    Something tells me there would be a lot of flame wars showing up here, oh every 28 days or so if we abbreviate that one. ;)
     

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