The most accurate ANH Vader helmet out there?

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Well a very interesting thread.

Maybe this topic should not be re-surfaced once more. However much time has elapsed.

As the majority have given their vote to the DJ I jump on that bandwagon supporting the notion that it is the best out there. Whether it came from the rubber molds of the KE helmet etc.. or if it's origin is still unkown? it has the markings of the closet thing out there upon visual appearance.

I know it's always the safest thing to keep your values or likes for something sustained on this forum to some degree. However, I will go out on a limb and say the GH although beautiful in it's own right (especially the dome) the faceplate's lack of accuracy has prevented me from wanting to own one. I have examined one in detail and I agree that it is one of the biggest and heaviest around. Visually it is very much a "fat" Vader IMO. Still a thing of beauty though. I think it's lineage and reputation go a long way.

Although JB has had issues with deliveries there is no doubt that since Mark has been the middleman things are much better. I feel in this case his helmet can not be overlooked as one of the nicest along with the other infamous prop maker's creation.

The VM V1 is another terrific helmet but lacks accuracy in areas. I support that it does indeed look the meanest ANH Vader.

PS's "Mystery" helmet no doubt will be in my list of top 5 ANH lids if the finished article turns out as planned. Okay it may possibly be a re-worked Fyberdyne but most things are re-worked from the Jeff/Roger /DP's.
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About the DarthJones helmet. I sincerely believe its source, which is the screen-used ANH helmet. The helmet that Kermit Eller wore is the screen helmet.

I find it curious that with only nine posts you resurrect three threads and in all three discuss either the JB V2 helmet or Mark's involvement as a middleman. It seems you know about Mark and enough about the "infamous prop maker", and knew where to find these threads. Now, the JB V2 helmet is very nice, don't get me wrong, but why go through all the trouble to dig up these old threads instead of starting your own? And what is this about "things being much better" with JB? He's fabricated tales about the source of his helmet, about knowing Don Bies, and about knowing Brian Muir. So it is not just an issue about deliveries, it is about honesty. I don't see things getting any better with him. :confused

Everyone is entitled to their opinion about each of the Vader helmets. You are welcome to call the GH a "fat" Vader and I do not disagree about it being cleaned up in areas, but I could say that the JB V2 and any other helmet recast from a 20th Century is demonstrably a "thin" Vader and not like the original ANH. So if JB wants to get it right, he should find a source other than a 20th Century faceplate.
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Just because I have just joined this forum it is an inaccurate assumption that my knowledge may be inferior or that I openly support JB etc... I like the helmet plain and simple. I did not say it is the best one, it is amongst them as my opinion.

I re-opened these forums as a matter of interest personally as the wealth of knowledge in these threads are good to new users. I find this of interest even if I already knew most of what is shared.

Back to the GH as I said a beautiful helmet, GH himself favoured a 20th Centurey faceplate with his dome if I'm not mistaken. SPFX and JB make very nice looking helmets as many have already said, the issues surrounding these propmakers and their credability has taken it's toll but people still buy from them as evidence of how these are nice props. I am aware as stated the GH has much credability just like PS will get for being so opened with his proposed "mystery" I believe wholeheartedly that this was the route that maybe some should of taken. I personally have had no problems with Phil or JB and I can assure you I'm not here on behalf of either of them other than to state what I like and dont like.

Either way I am aware that you favour the GH Thomas If I'm not mistaken? As I said not for me personally but I definately see why it's got such a big following especially on these boards.
 
I own a JB V2, I got it from him personally when I met him. I was very open in these forums that I had met JB when I visited his home city in June and July. No one prompted me for this info, I openly expressed it. My own experiences with JB were pleasent and I stand by those experiences to this day, although I have other opinions based on other credible information. You have to keep in mind that if you, as a new member, are coming in here and mentioning JB in several threads you are going to raise suspicion and boil the blood of some people and need to be prepared for whatever comes with that.

You have to remember that when you mention JB here you are opening a lot of old wounds and that there are a lot of people here that have issues with him from the past. When I mentioned my experiences I was open to taking the brunt of whatever came with that but I had established myself and my reputation here at theat point so I think it was a little different for me. Just try to keep that in perspective. :)

I do not think your opinions or knowledge are not credible just because you are new, many people lurk here for a long time or simply don't know about this place.

I think that the GH is a much more accurate helmet based on my own research and the opinions and photographic evidence of members here. As I said, I own the JB V2 and love it dearly, its a beautiful lid but can't hold a candle to the GH in terms of accuracy (and yes, I know the GH has it's own inaccuracies).
 
I hope that there wasn't anything in my post implying that your knowledge is inferior as I certainly cannot assume that. CKing originally came up with the idea to mate a 20th C face and GH dome. JB, etc. took advantage of that. I would say the helmets each have their followings...the ones based on the 20th C probably larger followings since those helmets are being actively sold, whereas a GH is just a by-chance finding in the junkyard or on Ebay. I like the GH size/proportions and the dome is very nice, but in terms of raw details my dream helmet is still the Darth Jones :love but that's a one-off casting sadly.
 
I personally really like the GH due to its provenance, but also see why people like the 20thC/GH Dome combo (I actually beg to differ that Chris was the first to come up with that idea as a number of people, myself included were doing the same thing at the same time)

All in all the I agree the DJ is the best - thats what I'm waiting for.

Cheers

Jez
 
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All in all the I agree the DJ is the best - thats what I'm waiting for.
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I too have hope that one day there will be castings made available of that one. :)
I can dream, cant I?
 
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I see 39 pages of Vader love. :)
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Yeah it's great.Nothing,but nothing,beats big black.
Right on to all you guys.
:) :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
 
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Most Accurate available: GH
Most Accurate Not-available: DJ

Dave :)
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can someone clue me in to a "DJ?"

thx
 
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www.starwarshelmets.com

Go to the one-off Vader helmets section.
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When you click on the fan-made helmets section, choose Darth vader and then choose A New Hope. Right at the top of that section you will see "Click here for One-Off Original ANH Helmets". That is a link, click it and enjoy. :)....

Or you can go the easy and simple route and take Kraig's direct link. :)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Kahnt @ Nov 21 2006, 08:53 PM) [snapback]1362920[/snapback]</div>
I own a JB V2, I got it from him personally when I met him. I was very open in these forums that I had met JB when I visited his home city in June and July. No one prompted me for this info, I openly expressed it. My own experiences with JB were pleasent and I stand by those experiences to this day, although I have other opinions based on other credible information. You have to keep in mind that if you, as a new member, are coming in here and mentioning JB in several threads you are going to raise suspicion and boil the blood of some people and need to be prepared for whatever comes with that.

You have to remember that when you mention JB here you are opening a lot of old wounds and that there are a lot of people here that have issues with him from the past. When I mentioned my experiences I was open to taking the brunt of whatever came with that but I had established myself and my reputation here at theat point so I think it was a little different for me. Just try to keep that in perspective. :)

I do not think your opinions or knowledge are not credible just because you are new, many people lurk here for a long time or simply don't know about this place.


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I understand what you mean with opening old wounds, that was not my intention. I simply gave my opinion and it's unfortnate that this leads to suspicion. I am here in the UK. I have no alterior motives other than to say I'm a big Vader fan and I speak my mind. I'm on 11 other forums which many here are members of, but unfortunately I may of been a little unsensitive towards others negative dealings. JB's helmets are not my ultimate favorite lids, they are just amongst them.

My analysis on the GH is additionally shared with many others. I still think it's a great prop as mentioned, I think that my new user status and the lack of reputation on this board highlights some of the problem as you say, I see it happen time and time again on other forums. Either way although I always express my opinions I apologise for possibly being a little brash :thumbsup .
 
darthvaderv said:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Kahnt @ Nov 21 2006, 08:53 PM) [snapback]1362920[/snapback]</div>

I understand what you mean with opening old wounds, that was not my intention. I simply gave my opinion and it's unfortnate that this leads to suspicion. I am here in the UK. I have no alterior motives other than to say I'm a big Vader fan and I speak my mind. I'm on 11 other forums which many here are members of, but unfortunately I may of been a little unsensitive towards others negative dealings. JB's helmets are not my ultimate favorite lids, they are just amongst them.

My analysis on the GH is additionally shared with many others. I still think it's a great prop as mentioned, I think that my new user status and the lack of reputation on this board highlights some of the problem as you say, I see it happen time and time again on other forums. Either way although I always express my opinions I apologise for possibly being a little brash :thumbsup .
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I know this is an old thread...but shot in the dark:

Does anyone know where (or if) I can get a GH Vader? I'm assuming this is currently the most accurate and available helmet....
 
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